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NCC- Kanjo to Issue 100 yard Municipal Bond
wanyuru
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:51:23 PM
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eti to Fund Infrastructure projects- roads, parking bays, education, health and social ameneties..... any takers?
Wa_ithaka
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:03:58 PM
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ABK, but at 20%, it might be worth a look. 15% if fully guaranteed by GoK.
Kanjo has no finance so u might find u don't get interest paid.
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mlennyma
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:49:33 AM
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Who can trust this ghost? they can chase you with flying chairs when it matures.dont dare
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:11:17 AM
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If the Principal & Interest is 100% covered/guaranteed by GoK... then there is little risk... Otherwise, I will stay clear! I am much happier earning 3.5% dividend from decent NSE firms than risk 100% with NCC for a perceived higher gain!
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KulaRaha
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:39:12 AM
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Municipal bonds are usually good investments, but NCC?? No thanks!!
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:50:11 AM
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Clearly a lot more thought needs to be put into this and more details provided. The projects mentioned are of a non-revenue nature, unless they propose to start charging i.e. toll roads, fee paying hospitals (and not the current rates) etc, while ensuring that there are no leakages.

100 Billion is way way too ambitious - the interest alone would be like 10 Billion annually. Wajaribu na kitu kama 5 Billion kwanza - guaranteed by the Central Govt, then we will see.
mlennyma
#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:58:08 AM
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With the staggering budget deficit and growing public debt,who thinks the central gvt can guarantee 100b to be given to some corrupt goons and at the same time the same gvt is still thinking of floating its own bonds.
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Sasha
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:58:09 AM
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They can't raise 100B at once. It would have to be graduated bonds totaling 100B!

Like Chairman says, municipal bonds are very good investments. They've been very successful in South Africa and China. The challenge here lies in the structuring of the bond.

Like the IFC said, if it is a revenue bond, it will have little risk as long as it is 100% guaranteed by GoK. But if it is a finance bond stay away from it!
mlennyma
#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:10:08 AM
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This is the easiest way to auction nairobi.
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wanyuru
#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:51:03 AM
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They also need to clean up first.... i know some kanjoras are already drooling at the thought of 100bn in their 'hands' and some strategizing on how to be in the finance committee.....
Sasha
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:48:15 AM
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I chuckled when I heard Kisia say that the problem with Kenyan councillors is that they dream and want to implement the next morning. Isn't he the one who is supposed to do the implementation?

My opinion is if CCN can be professionalised (a big if), and have serious professionals running the various committees rather than the useless councillors, then this bond can actually improve the lives of many Nairobians and prove to be very good investments for others!
kizee1
#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:32:10 PM
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GoK cannot guarantee this bond..how will GoK honour a 100 yards default? NCC cant even pay salos so how will they honour coupons on this? surely!
Wendz
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:16:37 PM
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Just killed my investment appetite..PAP!
KulaRaha
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:35:39 PM
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There may even be investors claiming GHOST COUPONS!!

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wanyuru
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:36:30 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
There may even be investors claiming GHOST COUPONS!!

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ha ha ha hahaha
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