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Upper, middle, lower classes in our society
Wendz
#1 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 1:40:40 PM
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I dont know if i am the only one who has noted this or we are many of us....

At the risk of being called all manner of names, and i really hope we can have an honest conversation here without attacking each other, what does the society make of these classes?

What i have seen here in Wazua, when someone who is thought to be in upper class comments something about what the middle class or the lower class are doing 'wrong' we are up in arms and beying for his blood. The same happens when the middle class does the same regarding the lower class.....

My humble question is, arent the rich supposed to be proud of their achievements (however humbly) without the other groups feeling like they are bragging about it(and which they have a right to by the way), or the middle class the same... and of course even the lower class? Arent we supposed to be proud of what we have achieved as people regardless of your class (and here am not placing myself in any class because if you compare me with someone in the streets without a shelter, then i will be in upper class(and i thank God for his mercies), if you compare me with JHM I will be in the lower class(but am still glad i can put food - however cheap in JHM's eyes - on my table))... so these classes are certainly relative......

So, why do we keep bashing each other about these classes? Why cant we learn from each other and see how to improve to where our peers/colleagues etc are? Everyone has a story of how they got where they are. Majority of us have come from where any "middle class" would call the lower class and where the lower class would even dread to be (say the lowerest class).

If someone is bashing the thugs, irrespective of the class they are in, they totally have a right to.... If he/she is complaining of insecurity, he has a right to. if he is complaining of a 'shanty' neighbourhood coming up behind his "maisonette", please let him do, because, if he built his "maisonette" next to Kabogo's palace, he would probably shift....Be proud of your class and thank God for his blessings..... You have no apologies to make for where you are.
McReggae
#2 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 1:49:52 PM
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Wendz, good one!!!!

And while at it, where is the boundary in terms of these classes, I have never understood but most people who blog believe they are in the middleclass!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Jacy26
#3 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 2:03:15 PM
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@Wendz...are you defending @Surealligator? Just asking?
If you have only one smile in you, give it to the people you love - Maya Angelou
Wendz
#4 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 2:12:28 PM
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Jacy26 wrote:
@Wendz...are you defending @Surealligator? Just asking?


Many..... they have been many threads on the same... the current one is just one of them..... And i would prefer we dont drag it here so that we can stick to the issues at hand... check out one where I think it was @mukiha was complaining of some thugs, there was also another on thika road, and another on a road across runda or something like, another on children and private/public schools - thats what i can remember of head and my pretty used up brain shouldn't allow me to remember so many so quickly..... see what i mean?
bkismat
#5 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 3:12:37 PM
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You should be proud of your achievements but you shouldn't go around telling other people that you despise them.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
XSK
#6 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 3:24:44 PM
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Wendz wrote:

if you compare me with JHM I will be in the lower class(but am still glad i can put food - however cheap in JHM's eyes - on my table))... so these classes are certainly relative......



@WENDZ

Who or what is JHM? Could it be John HM?

To response to your issue, my opinion is rooted in the words of one writer

Be smarter than other people, just don't tell them so.
H. Jackson Brown, Jr.




You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
Gordon Gekko
#7 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 3:28:21 PM
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@wendz, wouldn't call it class divide, but age divide. For instance - I will bash qw any day just because I feel he/she is younger than me. I will defend you, @mukiha, @njunge just because I feel you are my age-mates - regardless of the topics or standpoints.
Djinn
#8 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 3:37:19 PM
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@Wendz - I think its more about attitude and ego. One can be in the highest of classes and still treat everyone else as human beings....in a post about the Juja and other by elections, I think it was SimonKabz who made a comparison between Kabogo and whathisname of CitiHoppa - that Kabogo will sit down with the people and have a beer....etc etc.

In the same breadth, I have always admired poor people who are never ashamed of their stations in life and walk proud and stand tall.

Having said that, I recall Maslow's hierarchy of needs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs) - think of all the people you know personally and those we hear about like politicians, etc...try and think where they belong in Maslow's Pyramid....

I personally find that even the most affluent people, as long as they have big egos and poor attitudes, can never self actualise (top of the pyramid) and remain very petty despite having met their basic needs. They are miserly bastards that look down upon the rest. On the other hand, you have people of modest means who are content with what they have and want no more than they need - it could be a teacher, a cleaner, a doctor, (a lawyer? no scratch that smile), etc but they have esteem and can self actualise in small but very impactful ways.

Having said that, its true - sometimes the affluent look down upon the rest - and what is worse is when they themselves had humble beginnings.

My two pesetas on a Friday...

Magigi
#9 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 3:46:35 PM
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...People should be proud of what they have...but dont go bragging about your achievements. I guess in this forum we have all categories of people...from cleaners to CEOs...If I have worked hard why shouldnt I be proud and enjoy what I have achieved,as long as I dont despise others. Anyang Nyongo does not know where else he can have his lunch other than Serena. He is a doctor...studied hard day and night when others were f***ing around... Let the guy enjoy...
2012
#10 Posted : Friday, September 24, 2010 3:55:19 PM
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I think it is hard for a nation like Kenya to celebrate and appreciate the wealthy within mostly because we are exposed to negative stories of how they acquired it. Is there one wealthy Kenyan you can think of who doesn't a "story"? I can only think of Muguku but I'm sure there are people who have a -ve story about him. I think I'm currently middle class headed up and I'm proud of it.

BBI will solve it
:)
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