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KPLC FINALLY EXPLODES
guru267
#41 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 12:16:03 PM
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@2012 first of all we all know the results will be good, dividends will be good, restructuring will be good. Hence the rally
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Deuteronomy 4:16
2012
#42 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 12:19:56 PM
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guru267 wrote:
@2012 first of all we all know the results will be good, dividends will be good, restructuring will be good. Hence the rally


Thanks @guru. I know they always give good dividends but what's pointing you to the good results?

BBI will solve it
:)
guru267
#43 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 12:53:25 PM
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2012 wrote:
guru267 wrote:
@2012 first of all we all know the results will be good, dividends will be good, restructuring will be good. Hence the rally


Thanks @guru. I know they always give good dividends but what's pointing you to the good results?

the leasing of the fibre optic cables, 214,000 new customers, the increased consumption by industrials due to improving economy, the fall in tarriffs will all lead to good results
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sheep
#44 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 4:24:43 PM
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Lets not be too excited...this is the time to start thinking of selling...
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
guru267
#45 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 7:10:58 PM
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sheep wrote:
Lets not be too excited...this is the time to start thinking of selling...

@sheep you must have little faith...

It is pretty clear that results have leaked so selling now will be ill advised...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
the deal
#46 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 7:29:59 PM
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HAKUNA Supply everybody is holding out for the highest price...
mkonomtupu
#47 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 7:34:25 PM
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guru267 wrote:
sheep wrote:
Lets not be too excited...this is the time to start thinking of selling...

@sheep you must have little faith...

It is pretty clear that results have leaked so selling now will be ill advised...


The results have leaked...am sure they will outrage kenyans like the half year results. i have my own reservations on the restructuring but...

Enjoy the ride i will give it a look at the rights issue.

VituVingiSana
#48 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 8:30:20 PM
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Funny... Kenyans are OK when Safaricom made 50% (or higher) GP but cry foul when KPLC makes 5%...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#49 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 10:01:19 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Funny... Kenyans are OK when Safaricom made 50% (or higher) GP but cry foul when KPLC makes 5%...

@VVS are you talking about Gross Profit??

If you are you would be lying because this rally is clearly being sparked by a double digit profit growth
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sheep
#50 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 10:18:25 PM
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It might rally to 300...what nut case will buy at these levels? Then fall suddenly never to rise again for many years.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
VituVingiSana
#51 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 11:11:34 PM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Funny... Kenyans are OK when Safaricom made 50% (or higher) GP but cry foul when KPLC makes 5%...

@VVS are you talking about Gross Profit??

If you are you would be lying because this rally is clearly being sparked by a double digit profit growth

I believe the GP for KPLC is higher than 5% [I was using an illustration] but as for GP & rate of growth in profits... these are different...

KPLC's RATE OF GROWTH in profits has been good but the GP is still very low compared to Safaricom.

The NPM (Net Profit Margin) is even lower! As of the ROA...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Sober
#52 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 11:20:35 PM
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@sheep.
in the same case the guys who bought at 120 late last year are wondering who is buying at this exorbitant price (240) double the price.
in the case of any market, for any buyer there is a seller meaning the buyer always sees the price as a bargain because s/he didn't do so when the seller way aqcuring the gem.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
the deal
#53 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 11:34:07 PM
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sheep wrote:
It might rally to 300...what nut case will buy at these levels? Then fall suddenly never to rise again for many years.


dont bother urslf about the 'nut case' who will buy @ 300 bob...as long as you are able to sell @ 300bob...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
guru267
#54 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:31:09 AM
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the deal wrote:
sheep wrote:
It might rally to 300...what nut case will buy at these levels? Then fall suddenly never to rise again for many years.


dont bother urslf about the 'nut case' who will buy @ 300 bob...as long as you are able to sell @ 300bob...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I don't know How you guys are valuing KPLC but after the conversion and before the rights issue there is no way KPLC can fall below 300

I think @sheep must be suffering from "missed the boat" syndrome.. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
qw25041985
#55 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:17:20 AM
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on a NAV basic this stock is cheap.then on top of that add its illiquidity and 300.00 seems so near...
so who ever is asking if it'll breach 300.00/= i'd rather u ask by how much will it pass 300.00/= eheh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am buyin this stock in the fantasy market....then i'll b whipping arses ..LOLest
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
guru267
#56 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:36:27 AM
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Well the KPLC has started to cool momentum... I'm seeing bids and asks below yesterday's closing price of 242
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Sober
#57 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:40:15 AM
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@guru.
lowest 245 highest 252. check the board again. this thing should average 255 today
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
The Merchant
#58 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:57:13 AM
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How will the strike threat by KPLC workers affect this stock or has these news been factored in the price already?
VituVingiSana
#59 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:05:03 AM
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The Merchant wrote:
How will the strike threat by KPLC workers affect this stock or has these news been factored in the price already?
Let them go on strike... I should sat they should be fired! Then kicked out of any housing KPLC provides...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
komera
#60 Posted : Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:27:20 AM
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2012, i think the impending lalina is also a factor, gova last week anounced that they may be forced to switch on the back up generators. you know what that translates to, increase in pricing leading to super abnormal prices.

almost sold my shares in the fantasy market but the 6th voice told me to hold on and am glad i did. Though it does not reflect my real holdings in the real maket, i swear once it reaches 280 i will sell off some of my holding in the real market.
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