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Kaigangio
#41 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:46:00 PM
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@ carygo,

addition of 5MW to the national gid is to start with not bad,but this amount is insignificant compared to the current power requirements...I wish kengen could install these windmills in small towns whose aggregate power requirements rarely go beyond 2MW....it would ease the pressure from the big urban centres.

@ mwenza,

it is interesting to note how predictable the services (electricity and water) provision in kenya can be...the two are actually intertwined....no water no electricity and no electricity no water...it will take eons at the current trend to separate these two...

@ all,

the power rationing is early signs of an energy crunch or power crisis...sooner or later the innevitable will happen....manufacturing companies drawing shift personnel and operating at 50% of the installed capacity and retrenching at last. then the cost of power will go up despite the shortage.


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
wavidani
#42 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:28:00 PM
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@Kaigangio: Am with you all the way on this and will copy you,but why underground tank? Space constraints? Coz in the event of a leak,it will be hard to trace and repair.The rain harvesting is brill,esp when i read that Nairobi,Central R.V. & Western receive same amount of rain as Britain,Ireland,etc only that it comes over a shorter time.Couldn't believe til i googled!
aemathenge
#43 Posted : Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:19:00 PM
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Posts: 3,434
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Well done ladies and gentlemen. This post is absolutely powerful. Again,well done. I was beggining to lose hope in SK.

HOWEVER,@ Ikonini,I take great exception to your post. To post a joke,no matter how funny,is truly an insult to the suffering we are going through. I therefore rule you out of order and place a black mark on you. Three marks and I shall ask SKerians to give you a black out. Like @Leona and other SKerians point out,we have got to start somewhere in self regulation.



Live hard,die hard.
Pablo
#44 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 5:57:00 AM
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@aemathenge

Have a sense of humour. Ikonini's post made my day.



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Mpenzi
#45 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 6:59:00 AM
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@aemathenge

I dont see what beef you have with Ikonini's joke. Surely you now want SK to ban jokes? Laughter must just be the thing that Kenyans in the dark,with no water or food need.
mukiha
#46 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 8:16:00 AM
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@aemathenge;

I think you were a little too harsh on ikonini...I found the joke quite appropriate in relieving the tension occasioned by power and water shortage

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The General
#47 Posted : Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:23:00 PM
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Most Kenyan Industries spared power outages

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
jaheim
#48 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:58:00 AM
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I think govt can do better when it comes to power and these water shortages thing. Its just incopetence from those responsible. Failure to plan is planning to fail,Every year I hear this power rationing thing. Why cant the Govt do something about once and for all,its becoming a habbit that kenyans have to put up with. Year inn year out SOSDD!!

Jay
The General
#49 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:49:00 AM
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New plant ends power cuts in Coast Province

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
segemia
#50 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:27:58 AM
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Does it mean that if KPLC does not double the connection fees it will just become insolvent???

Something is playing out here and the public probably does not know!!!
Ash Ock
#51 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:22:38 PM
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segemia wrote:
Something is playing out here and the public probably does not know!!!


Our "friends" going by the name World Bank, IMF, and IFC with their usual "helpful" conditions.

Kenya's Power Shortage Problem Meets Innovative Finance
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KulaRaha
#52 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:47:08 PM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
Meanwhile today:

No electricity in parts of the COUNTRY. There is a fault blah blah blah. The problem is being addressed.

Kenya Power.

And we spend millions worrying about the Hague.

Third World.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Manyala
#53 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:49:23 PM
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Location: Nairobi
KulaRaha wrote:
Meanwhile today:

No electricity in parts of the COUNTRY. There is a fault blah blah blah. The problem is being addressed.

Kenya Power.

And we spend millions worrying about the Hague.

Third World.


Nationwide blackoutd'oh! Shame on you















KulaRaha
#54 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:59:50 PM
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Oh, and the solution is to bring power from UG to help us tide things over.

Kenya Power should be disbanded and smaller county based distributors should be formed. These fellows will never allow Vision 2030 to become a reality.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
McReggae
#55 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:32:17 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Oh, and the solution is to bring power from UG to help us tide things over.

Kenya Power should be disbanded and smaller county based distributors should be formed. These fellows will never allow Vision 2030 to become a reality.


We are strong remember!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
bkismat
#56 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 3:35:01 PM
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http://www.cofek.co.ke/i...mp;catid=1%3Alatest-news
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
2012
#57 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2013 4:21:58 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
What a lame excuse by Nairobi Water. The dormant Kidero needs to start working by taking water distribution back as we need to have someone to hold to account and who better than the Governor?

Ati an excavator broke the pipe, don't construction plans go to the Council for approval to avoid such occurrences? NKT!!!

One week bila water is madness!

BBI will solve it
:)
murchr
#58 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:40:36 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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Kaigangio July 2009 wrote:
Hi all,

I have been following up on the latest happenings and services deliveries from our utility companies namely Kengen,Kenya Power and Lighting Company Limited and Nairobi Water Company Limited. I must say that the emerging painted picture of the things to come from them is bleak...very bleak indeed. I see a situation where we will be paying expensively or dearly to be and remain in the dark and for being thirsty...sample this:

Kengen tells us that they have closed the Masinga dam followed by Kaburu because the remaining amount of water cannot sustain a continuous generation of electricity for more than three months. The reason for the low water levels is the drought,with the rains being so erratic and unreliable for a dependable and continuous HEP generation,and no effort has been made in the recent past to come up with other alternative energy sources,or attempts to expand the generation capacity of existing ones where possible.
The worrying thing that they have not told us yet is that Kiambere dam is fed by the same river that feeds Kaburu and it is just a matter of time before Kiambere is closed if the water catchment do not get any rains in the near future.
The story won&rsquo;t end there because after telling us the sad news,they will start looking for independent power/electricity producers at least to offset the shortfall albeit by a small margin. Once this is in place,we will be told that the unit rate of production by these independent producers (who in effect will be using fossil fuel power generation) is high due to the rising cost of fuel in the international market and as such they will therefore be paying more to these electricity producers. We will also expect that Kengen,apart from maintaining an 'idle' personnel in the payroll in the closed dams,will be incurring exorbitant extra expenditure in maintaining these 'unproductive idle dams' and everything that goes with them.
Eventually the inevitable will happen...Kengen will tell us that the current unit rate sales are impractical and unsustainable and will no longer apply. The unit rates shall require to be adjusted upwards by at least 40% to reflect the added cost of power generation.

Kenya Power and Lighting Company most likely is now preparing to hit us with the normal bucketful of s*** about an impending official power rationing. They will give the same reasons as given by Kengen for the rationing,but the story will not end there. They will tell us that the cost of doing business with Kengen has risen tremendously due to added cost of power generation and that they have renegotiated the purchase price of 1 unit of electricity.
We therefore should brace ourselves for tariff hikes of the order of 60%,but since the electricity shortfall will only have been marginally offset,the blackouts will be extended from a few hours to more hours per day.

Nairobi Water Company & Sewerage Limited the other day told us that Ndaka-Ini dam,the main water source for Nairobi residents,is getting depleted very fast and that the amount of water remaining now cannot sustain a continuous supply for more than six months. The story did not end there coz we already know that the supplementary supply from Susumua dam which is under rehabilitation will become operational sometime in October (if I remember correctly). We are already in the midst of the drought monster and no rain is expected soon.
The NWCL has already started an annoying water rationing programme with residential estates are receiving water for only a day per week or so. If i read correctly it might get worse as the drought continues to bite for the next couple of months and any additional amounts from the rehabilitated dam might not have any significant input into the distribution network. They will probably start telling us that the unit cost of water will have to be adjusted upward to reflect the added cost of power consumption at the pumping stations and treatment works,reduced revenues due to low volumes of water consumed while still maintaining the same size of payroll and the office overheads etc. Eventually they will call a press conference to announce that the unit cost of water has been increased by 40% and that they will extend the water availability frequency period from one day per week to one day per fortnight (two weeks).

The bigger picture...I have tried to understand our peculiar behaviour of not paying attention to simple problems requiring simple solutions and letting them degenerate into monstrous problems requiring expensive solutions...and the best we do is to point fingers at non existent entities.
All along since i was a young boy,the Greenbelt Movement has always told people not to deforest but rather reforest...at one point it became a song that 'if you cut down one tree you plant not less than two'. We used to sing it literally,virtually everywhere,but somehow the song was 'murdered' buried and forgotten as people threw out the caution through the window.
Now less than 20 years down the line,we are experiencing what we were being warned about. I don&rsquo;t see the situation changing as politics has made everything impossible and complicated starting from settling in the forest land to commercial tree felling in the forests,from where the agents of electricity and portable pure drinking water are derived from. It might take another 40 to 50 years to fix things up and bringing them to the level they were just about 20 years ago in terms of services provision i.e water and electricity. This will only happen if and only if there is a strong political will (which is always lacking) and collective individual responsibilities.

In summary we have already come face to face with perennial energy crunch and pure safe drinking water crisis.

Solution...I am a very angry and bitter man and I will not wait for 40 years for these utility companies to live up to their responsibilities of providing me with reliable electricity and reliable,safe and pure drinking water! Without these I am just as good as dead!!! In fact I will reduce my interaction with KPLC and NWCL more than 95% or better still do without them because their very existence is turning out to be the source of my misery and nightmare. It has to be brought to an end!!!

The plan...Firstly,I will start off by cutting off the services from NWCL by 90%. How? I will put up an underground tank with a enough capacity and I will start a serious rain water harvesting. To each of the five lives in my household I will allow 100 litres per day giving 500 litres for each day. For the kitchen,toilet and laundry I will allow an average of 150 litres making a total of 650 litres per day. Next,this daily volume shall be available continuously for a period of six months making a total of 117,000litres or 117m3. The underground tank will have a capacity of 120 m3. I will not expect this volume to be fully exhausted because the 5% service from NWCL will fill the gap in case of prolonged drought lasting more than an year and a half with no rain. If the initial observations show that the contents of the tank could last at least nine months continuous extraction without any replenishment,then I will advise the NWCL to remove their water meter and take it away!

Secondly...KPLC allows about 4KVA worth of diversified load for a residential household,which works out to 3.2kW. I will then go ahead and procure and install photovoltaic solar panels in two phases enough to provide my household with 3.2kW available power. The first phase will involve the procurement of 1.6kW panels and 3.2kW load delivery capability batteries,charge controllers,and all the wiring. Phase two will involve just the procurement of the other 1.6kW set of panels. This will be enough to do all the domestic activities that require electricity,e.g ironing,lighting,microwave,water heating,electric kettle,etc. I am very sure that the installed capacity will be large and most of the day a small fraction of it will be used while in the evenings (early evening) a large fraction of it will be in use. I would consider selling to KPLC during the 'off peak' (about 10 hours) period but the monthly income from it would not be worth it. So,I would opt to sell to the neighbours whom I am sure would be ready to pay well. I will have gained independence from the unreliable power supply from the KPLC!

I believe this will be one long painful journey considering the financial implications and my own personal commitment but the long term benefits will be enormous.


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB



Who wants to bet that this post will be so relevant in July 2018?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Stiffler
#59 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 6:15:09 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Kaigangio wrote:
Hi all,

I have been following up on the latest happenings and services deliveries from our utility companies namely Kengen,Kenya Power and Lighting Company Limited and Nairobi Water Company Limited. I must say that the emerging painted picture of the things to come from them is bleak...very bleak indeed. I see a situation where we will be paying expensively or dearly to be and remain in the dark and for being thirsty...sample this:

Kengen tells us that they have closed the Masinga dam followed by Kaburu because the remaining amount of water cannot sustain a continuous generation of electricity for more than three months. The reason for the low water levels is the drought,with the rains being so erratic and unreliable for a dependable and continuous HEP generation,and no effort has been made in the recent past to come up with other alternative energy sources,or attempts to expand the generation capacity of existing ones where possible.
The worrying thing that they have not told us yet is that Kiambere dam is fed by the same river that feeds Kaburu and it is just a matter of time before Kiambere is closed if the water catchment do not get any rains in the near future.
The story won&rsquo;t end there because after telling us the sad news,they will start looking for independent power/electricity producers at least to offset the shortfall albeit by a small margin. Once this is in place,we will be told that the unit rate of production by these independent producers (who in effect will be using fossil fuel power generation) is high due to the rising cost of fuel in the international market and as such they will therefore be paying more to these electricity producers. We will also expect that Kengen,apart from maintaining an 'idle' personnel in the payroll in the closed dams,will be incurring exorbitant extra expenditure in maintaining these 'unproductive idle dams' and everything that goes with them.
Eventually the inevitable will happen...Kengen will tell us that the current unit rate sales are impractical and unsustainable and will no longer apply. The unit rates shall require to be adjusted upwards by at least 40% to reflect the added cost of power generation.

Kenya Power and Lighting Company most likely is now preparing to hit us with the normal bucketful of s*** about an impending official power rationing. They will give the same reasons as given by Kengen for the rationing,but the story will not end there. They will tell us that the cost of doing business with Kengen has risen tremendously due to added cost of power generation and that they have renegotiated the purchase price of 1 unit of electricity.
We therefore should brace ourselves for tariff hikes of the order of 60%,but since the electricity shortfall will only have been marginally offset,the blackouts will be extended from a few hours to more hours per day.

Nairobi Water Company & Sewerage Limited the other day told us that Ndaka-Ini dam,the main water source for Nairobi residents,is getting depleted very fast and that the amount of water remaining now cannot sustain a continuous supply for more than six months. The story did not end there coz we already know that the supplementary supply from Susumua dam which is under rehabilitation will become operational sometime in October (if I remember correctly). We are already in the midst of the drought monster and no rain is expected soon.
The NWCL has already started an annoying water rationing programme with residential estates are receiving water for only a day per week or so. If i read correctly it might get worse as the drought continues to bite for the next couple of months and any additional amounts from the rehabilitated dam might not have any significant input into the distribution network. They will probably start telling us that the unit cost of water will have to be adjusted upward to reflect the added cost of power consumption at the pumping stations and treatment works,reduced revenues due to low volumes of water consumed while still maintaining the same size of payroll and the office overheads etc. Eventually they will call a press conference to announce that the unit cost of water has been increased by 40% and that they will extend the water availability frequency period from one day per week to one day per fortnight (two weeks).

The bigger picture...I have tried to understand our peculiar behaviour of not paying attention to simple problems requiring simple solutions and letting them degenerate into monstrous problems requiring expensive solutions...and the best we do is to point fingers at non existent entities.
All along since i was a young boy,the Greenbelt Movement has always told people not to deforest but rather reforest...at one point it became a song that 'if you cut down one tree you plant not less than two'. We used to sing it literally,virtually everywhere,but somehow the song was 'murdered' buried and forgotten as people threw out the caution through the window.
Now less than 20 years down the line,we are experiencing what we were being warned about. I don&rsquo;t see the situation changing as politics has made everything impossible and complicated starting from settling in the forest land to commercial tree felling in the forests,from where the agents of electricity and portable pure drinking water are derived from. It might take another 40 to 50 years to fix things up and bringing them to the level they were just about 20 years ago in terms of services provision i.e water and electricity. This will only happen if and only if there is a strong political will (which is always lacking) and collective individual responsibilities.

In summary we have already come face to face with perennial energy crunch and pure safe drinking water crisis.

Solution...I am a very angry and bitter man and I will not wait for 40 years for these utility companies to live up to their responsibilities of providing me with reliable electricity and reliable,safe and pure drinking water! Without these I am just as good as dead!!! In fact I will reduce my interaction with KPLC and NWCL more than 95% or better still do without them because their very existence is turning out to be the source of my misery and nightmare. It has to be brought to an end!!!

The plan...Firstly,I will start off by cutting off the services from NWCL by 90%. How? I will put up an underground tank with a enough capacity and I will start a serious rain water harvesting. To each of the five lives in my household I will allow 100 litres per day giving 500 litres for each day. For the kitchen,toilet and laundry I will allow an average of 150 litres making a total of 650 litres per day. Next,this daily volume shall be available continuously for a period of six months making a total of 117,000litres or 117m3. The underground tank will have a capacity of 120 m3. I will not expect this volume to be fully exhausted because the 5% service from NWCL will fill the gap in case of prolonged drought lasting more than an year and a half with no rain. If the initial observations show that the contents of the tank could last at least nine months continuous extraction without any replenishment,then I will advise the NWCL to remove their water meter and take it away!

Secondly...KPLC allows about 4KVA worth of diversified load for a residential household,which works out to 3.2kW. I will then go ahead and procure and install photovoltaic solar panels in two phases enough to provide my household with 3.2kW available power. The first phase will involve the procurement of 1.6kW panels and 3.2kW load delivery capability batteries,charge controllers,and all the wiring. Phase two will involve just the procurement of the other 1.6kW set of panels. This will be enough to do all the domestic activities that require electricity,e.g ironing,lighting,microwave,water heating,electric kettle,etc. I am very sure that the installed capacity will be large and most of the day a small fraction of it will be used while in the evenings (early evening) a large fraction of it will be in use. I would consider selling to KPLC during the 'off peak' (about 10 hours) period but the monthly income from it would not be worth it. So,I would opt to sell to the neighbours whom I am sure would be ready to pay well. I will have gained independence from the unreliable power supply from the KPLC!

I believe this will be one long painful journey considering the financial implications and my own personal commitment but the long term benefits will be enormous.


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB



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Angelica _ann
#60 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2018 8:40:20 PM
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Thieves at it again >≥>> Dear Customer, we have scheduled a system shutdown for PREPAID SERVICES ONLY on Tuesday, 31st July 2018 10pm to 3am to effect the revised tariff rates.
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