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#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:07:32 AM
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As at yesterday (22.06.10); the total market value of Equity Bank was Kshs 87 Billion and that of Barclays Bank Kenya was Kshs 82 Billion.

Now suppose you had Kshs 90 Billion and had the option of purchasing one of these banks to have 100% shareholding, which purchase would you make?
sparkly
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:42:39 AM
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Equity to sell in three years, or bbk to keep for as long as england is ruled by a monarch.
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Hi-Lo
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:03:08 AM
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...with 90bn...I'd aim to buy both not either one or the other...
StatMeister
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:06:49 AM
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@m2c & sparkly, why not start your own bank?

Financial plan as follows:
Core Capital (1bn), Systems (2bn), Licences (100m), Branches & furniture (100m), poaching staff from other banks (500m)

Use balance 87.2bn as a deposit in the new bank and start making money!

Investment banking is ever better than this.
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
guru267
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:14:47 AM
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definitely Equity
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2012
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:19:33 PM
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Barclays. Because of their history, international network and (in my opinion) BBK will be least affected by national politics.

BBI will solve it
:)
the deal
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:30:47 PM
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If u say 2-3 years,i would go 4 Equity...reason being that BBK can't expand...look @ the Equity machine...South Sudan...UG...Mkesho...common mwananchi...CEO SUPREMO Mr James Mwangi...
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:01:47 PM
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If choice is between Equity & BBK, only a dumbass would buy BBK. Little or no upside
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2012
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:12:21 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
If choice is between Equity & BBK, only a dumbass would buy BBK. Little or no upside


I remember a few years ago when your favourite phrase 'dumbass' was used to describe people who were buying Apple shares in the States. Those 'dumbasses' are now 1000% richer. Read my signature below...

BBI will solve it
:)
sparkly
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:19:47 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
@m2c & sparkly, why not start your own bank?

Financial plan as follows:
Core Capital (1bn), Systems (2bn), Licences (100m), Branches & furniture (100m), poaching staff from other banks (500m)

Use balance 87.2bn as a deposit in the new bank and start making money!

Investment banking is ever better than this.


@stat... it would take an eternity to build a brand like Barclays.

The chances of hitting it big like EB are slim.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:30:29 PM
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LOL... I wud just buy a T-Bond and live off the income...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
My 2 cents
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:57:53 PM
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The main issue embedded in the post is DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE EQUITY IS MORE VALUABLE THAN BARCLAYS?......(Forget the hypothetical 90 Billion)
Wa_ithaka
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:19:40 PM
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2012-thanks for your comments. Highly appreciated they are too.
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:22:40 PM
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2012 wrote:
Wa_ithaka wrote:
If choice is between Equity & BBK, only a dumbass would buy BBK. Little or no upside


I remember a few years ago when your favourite phrase 'dumbass' was used to describe people who were buying Apple shares in the States. Those 'dumbasses' are now 1000% richer. Read my signature below...


LOLest... True dat! 10 years ago Apple had $150mn in the bank... Then came the Savior (Steve Jobs)...

BTW, I did not buy Apple shares... I wish I had... I was there when the iMac came out! A beautiful machine...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
qw25041985
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:07:12 PM
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Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
StatMeister
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:55:00 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
The main issue embedded in the post is DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE EQUITY IS MORE VALUABLE THAN BARCLAYS?......(Forget the hypothetical 90 Billion)


EB is a growth stock, can span wings to EA and further, acquire capital-rich banks, etc etc... Good for speculation.

BBK is a very safe & stable stock, etc etc... Good for investors who don't want to take any risks.
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
StatMeister
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:24:18 PM
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sparkly wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
@m2c & sparkly, why not start your own bank?

Financial plan as follows:
Core Capital (1bn), Systems (2bn), Licences (100m), Branches & furniture (100m), poaching staff from other banks (500m)

Use balance 87.2bn as a deposit in the new bank and start making money!

Investment banking is ever better than this.


@stat... it would take an eternity to build a brand like Barclays.

The chances of hitting it big like EB are slim.


@ Sparkly, SCB has fewer branches, staff, assets, liabilities etc compared to BBK. But they made more money in Q1 2010?
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
sparkly
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:27:19 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
sparkly wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
@m2c & sparkly, why not start your own bank?

Financial plan as follows:
Core Capital (1bn), Systems (2bn), Licences (100m), Branches & furniture (100m), poaching staff from other banks (500m)

Use balance 87.2bn as a deposit in the new bank and start making money!

Investment banking is ever better than this.


@stat... it would take an eternity to build a brand like Barclays.

The chances of hitting it big like EB are slim.


@ Sparkly, SCB has fewer branches, staff, assets, liabilities etc compared to BBK. But they made more money in Q1 2010?

Thats coz SCB put all their money in T-Bills and bonds from 2008. Lets see what happens in full year 2010, T-bills are at 3%.
Life is short. Live passionately.
rwitre
#19 Posted : Sunday, November 14, 2021 12:27:12 PM
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Value investors having a hard time coming to terms with the current market.

Trillions of dollars have been printed over the past two years
New generation of investors is chasing high risk/ high return over slow and steady
Would be a bubble that will crash, but where will all that money pumped to stimulate the economy go?

Current market is a casino.
And it's high on free money



My 2 cents
#20 Posted : Sunday, November 14, 2021 12:35:22 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
As at yesterday (22.06.10); the total market value of Equity Bank was Kshs 87 Billion and that of Barclays Bank Kenya was Kshs 82 Billion.

Now suppose you had Kshs 90 Billion and had the option of purchasing one of these banks to have 100% shareholding, which purchase would you make?


11 years later

Barclays - 56 Billion
Equity - 201 Billion

The market has made me humble over the years. At the time of posting, I totally believed that even comparing the two was a joke.
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