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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
maka
#14781 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:53:37 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
point wrote:
I wonder if there are any fundamentals underpinning the share price rise?

Read through this thread.. The answer lies herein. The fact is that there is KQA worth ABP KES 21 and KQB of known value KES 8.32 hence KES 67B fair valuation which can only be achieved via rights issue.. In the interim, KQA which is the tradable portion of minority shareholders can rise to highs of KES 18 and beyond. Watch and learn



When are we expecting results

FY 2019 loss before tax 9.1B


What was FY 2018?

The results were known by March 2020!


12.9Bn


The next one will be catastrophic 30Bn plus.....
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#14782 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 6:02:38 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
point wrote:
I wonder if there are any fundamentals underpinning the share price rise?

Read through this thread.. The answer lies herein. The fact is that there is KQA worth ABP KES 21 and KQB of known value KES 8.32 hence KES 67B fair valuation which can only be achieved via rights issue.. In the interim, KQA which is the tradable portion of minority shareholders can rise to highs of KES 18 and beyond. Watch and learn



When are we expecting results

FY 2019 loss before tax 9.1B


What was FY 2018?

The results were known by March 2020!


12.9Bn


The next one will be catastrophic 30Bn plus.....

Unfortunately/fortunately it will still rally tomorrow and the day after. The loss at hand is acceptable considering NYC rollout

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Impunity
#14783 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 6:11:34 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
point wrote:
I wonder if there are any fundamentals underpinning the share price rise?

Read through this thread.. The answer lies herein. The fact is that there is KQA worth ABP KES 21 and KQB of known value KES 8.32 hence KES 67B fair valuation which can only be achieved via rights issue.. In the interim, KQA which is the tradable portion of minority shareholders can rise to highs of KES 18 and beyond. Watch and learn



When are we expecting results

FY 2019 loss before tax 9.1B


What was FY 2018?

The results were known by March 2020!


12.9Bn


The next one will be catastrophic 30Bn plus.....


Pennystock
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

ArrestedDev
#14784 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:38:25 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.
obiero
#14785 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:45:17 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#14786 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:53:07 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,639
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here




Full year loss widened by 71%
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
snifadog
#14787 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 10:44:37 PM
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Joined: 6/6/2016
Posts: 165
Location: Nairobi
i am waiting to see how el gran capitan obiero will spin this mess when tomorrow's trading resumes
obiero
#14788 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:40:38 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
snifadog wrote:
i am waiting to see how el gran capitan obiero will spin this mess when tomorrow's trading resumes

It will rise tomorrow and the day after.. Every sane KQ shareholder knew that it would be a loss in the high billions.. The rally was never about the results! Watch and learn

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
cyruskulei
#14789 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 1:03:59 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 320
Location: kenya
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
i am waiting to see how el gran capitan obiero will spin this mess when tomorrow's trading resumes

It will rise tomorrow and the day after.. Every sane KQ shareholder knew that it would be a loss in the high billions.. The rally was never about the results! Watch and learn


TAKEOVER pap.

https://www.businessdail...64554-yd2g4bz/index.html
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

VituVingiSana
#14790 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 6:20:03 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,055
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...64554-yd2g4bz/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#14791 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 7:18:01 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...4554-yd2g4bz/index.html

Not may, will.. Mumelazimishwa kutununua! Price will continue to rise in logic defying trend

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
maka
#14792 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 8:31:12 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.


Capacity increase translates to increase in costs... For places like NYC it's some crazy costs....

For cargo only one freighter is operational currently the other one has a spoilt engine.... The toll on the seats plus interior for the regular flights doing cargo is unbelievable... Major repairs will need to be done.....
possunt quia posse videntur
Spikes
#14793 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 9:36:35 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...4554-yd2g4bz/index.html

Not may, will.. Mumelazimishwa kutununua! Price will continue to rise in logic defying trend


The cookie crumbles at 9:30 am (0630 GMT). That is it!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#14794 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:01:00 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...4554-yd2g4bz/index.html

Not may, will.. Mumelazimishwa kutununua! Price will continue to rise in logic defying trend


The cookie crumbles at 9:30 am (0630 GMT). That is it!

No volume support.. Just a few shocked souls who are lost.. Let them exit

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#14795 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:05:59 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...4554-yd2g4bz/index.html

Not may, will.. Mumelazimishwa kutununua! Price will continue to rise in logic defying trend


The cookie crumbles at 9:30 am (0630 GMT). That is it!

No volume support.. Just a few shocked souls who are lost.. Let them exit


The hardened souls will finally bow to the law of gravity. Watch & learn Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
HaMaina
#14796 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:46:17 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/23/2014
Posts: 903
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...4554-yd2g4bz/index.html

Not may, will.. Mumelazimishwa kutununua! Price will continue to rise in logic defying trend


The cookie crumbles at 9:30 am (0630 GMT). That is it!

No volume support.. Just a few shocked souls who are lost.. Let them exit


The hardened souls will finally bow to the law of gravity. Watch & learn Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Had I sold my final 500 shares jana, I would have been sawa for some chicken. I can see some people placing orders @ 0.8 . Spikes you had mentioned the price might even fall to 0.50 and now I honestly don't doubt you.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
sqft
#14797 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:00:49 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 961
Location: Kenya
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.


That was then. The post Covid future looks grim. Collapsed tourism, reduced business travel, less international travel. If they couldn't make money during NORMAL conditions how will they do it in ABNORMAL conditions?
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sparkly
#14798 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:31:47 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.

You are analytical. Let me leave this here



Equity NEGATIVE 16bn through Dec 2019.
Another loss expected for 1H 2020.
But there may be a saving grace for minority shareholders thanks to the taxpayers. https://www.businessdail...4554-yd2g4bz/index.html

Not may, will.. Mumelazimishwa kutununua! Price will continue to rise in logic defying trend


The cookie crumbles at 9:30 am (0630 GMT). That is it!


Opened at 3.46 but has touched lows of 2.00. The fall will be steeper than the rise.
Life is short. Live passionately.
maka
#14799 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:36:59 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
sqft wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.


That was then. The post Covid future looks grim. Collapsed tourism, reduced business travel, less international travel. If they couldn't make money during NORMAL conditions how will they do it in ABNORMAL conditions?



It's crazy tough... Hapa Kuna shida kubwa sana.
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#14800 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:44:08 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
sqft wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
I hope everyone can see the increase in revenue is directly attributable to capacity and network expansion. This is the only way for KQ to increase revenue and fight off the competition.

It is very clear that there is demand in the market. Cargo capacity expansion is required very urgently and KQ will be profitable. There is a higher margin in cargo.


That was then. The post Covid future looks grim. Collapsed tourism, reduced business travel, less international travel. If they couldn't make money during NORMAL conditions how will they do it in ABNORMAL conditions?



It's crazy tough... Hapa Kuna shida kubwa sana.

Time to buy

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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