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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
ArrestedDev
#14681 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:55:28 PM
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obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:

Smart traders have made over 30% gain on KQ in last 5 trading sessions, but there is a serious clown waiting for KES 0.50 to print. Watch and learn


I'm urging everyone to consider buying sacks of tomatoes instead. They're still retailing at 10 Bob a piece. 100% gain overnight. Thank me later!!!

Am buying chicks legs and wings instead,,,,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. Tomatoes, chicken legs and wings have gone up 30% in 5 days? Interesting


@ Obiero, why can’t you diversify and make more with your hard earned cash? SBIC announced a dividend of 5.80, DTK - 2.70, EQTY - 2.50 , SCOM - 1.40 and much more.

Don’t expect KQ to rally upwards anymore.
obiero
#14682 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:50:17 PM
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Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:

Smart traders have made over 30% gain on KQ in last 5 trading sessions, but there is a serious clown waiting for KES 0.50 to print. Watch and learn


I'm urging everyone to consider buying sacks of tomatoes instead. They're still retailing at 10 Bob a piece. 100% gain overnight. Thank me later!!!

Am buying chicks legs and wings instead,,,,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. Tomatoes, chicken legs and wings have gone up 30% in 5 days? Interesting


@ Obiero, why can’t you diversify and make more with your hard earned cash? SBIC announced a dividend of 5.80, DTK - 2.70, EQTY - 2.50 , SCOM - 1.40 and much more.

Don’t expect KQ to rally upwards anymore.

I am well diversified outside of the NSE.. The money I place on each of my stock picks is money I don't 'need'.. On KQ, that dilution during restructuring was too steep to get out without deep cuts, I am confident that the airline will NOT fold.. Actually Jambojet is back to the skies from Tuesday next week..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#14683 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:34:59 AM
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KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...51828-hwsnpuz/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#14684 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:54:13 AM
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Location: nairobi
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Extraterrestrial
#14685 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:58:41 PM
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obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


Low is c. Sh0.80 so its popped a pretty 100% in a couple of trading sessions.
Spikes
#14686 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:26:10 PM
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Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
obiero wrote:

Smart traders have made over 30% gain on KQ in last 5 trading sessions, but there is a serious clown waiting for KES 0.50 to print. Watch and learn


I'm urging everyone to consider buying sacks of tomatoes instead. They're still retailing at 10 Bob a piece. 100% gain overnight. Thank me later!!!

Am buying chicks legs and wings instead,,,,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. Tomatoes, chicken legs and wings have gone up 30% in 5 days? Interesting


@ Obiero, why can’t you diversify and make more with your hard earned cash? SBIC announced a dividend of 5.80, DTK - 2.70, EQTY - 2.50 , SCOM - 1.40 and much more.

Don’t expect KQ to rally upwards anymore.

I am well diversified outside of the NSE.. The money I place on each of my stock picks is money I don't 'need'.. On KQ, that dilution during restructuring was too steep to get out without deep cuts, I am confident that the airline will NOT fold.. Actually Jambojet is back to the skies from Tuesday next week..


A novice apparently averse to analytical and critical thinking in the stock market.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#14687 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:32:03 PM
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Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


You always lose out opportunities of making money during KQ rallies. Only smart speculators do make money because they don't cling on craps. Your specialty is shouting from the rooftops like a political lunatic kicked out of house business committee while others are eating! Style up young man.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#14688 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 3:51:09 PM
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Extraterrestrial wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


Low is c. Sh0.80 so its popped a pretty 100% in a couple of trading sessions.

True but the 'blind' clown cannot see what you see

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
slick
#14689 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 3:51:20 PM
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Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


You always lose out opportunities of making money during KQ rallies. Only smart speculators do make money because they don't cling on craps. Your specialty is shouting from the rooftops like a political lunatic kicked out of house business committee while others are eating! Style up young man.


If KQ was a US airline then it would have been bailed out just like US airlines.US airlines are issuing new corporate bonds which the Fed is buying with newly created dollars.Can Opus Dei pull such a stunt in Kenya?Its dishonest way of bailing out a company by central bank money printing but thats how Western markets operate.

In Europe it gets even weirder.Eurozone companies are able to issue zero coupon negative yielding bonds which means investors pay companies to lend to them as opposed to the reverse where companies pay investors interest on corporate bonds.You think I am blowing hot air but companies like Siemens are actually doing this and weird investors scooping such bonds where they are guaranteed to lose money if they hold the bonds to maturity



Wow KQ and Kenyan corporates would love to issue zero coupon negative yielding bonds and get paid to borrow.Woud you be nuts to buy such bonds like in Europe?
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obiero
#14690 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:55:41 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


You always lose out opportunities of making money during KQ rallies. Only smart speculators do make money because they don't cling on craps. Your specialty is shouting from the rooftops like a political lunatic kicked out of house business committee while others are eating! Style up young man.

Only one question my clown, was my KQ holding 414,100 just 9 days ago? I wrote my ABP theory here and I put MY MONEY where my heart is, mke usiyekula anakuwashia nini?

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#14691 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 12:03:04 AM
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KES 2 by 9am tomorrow.. KES 5 by July..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#14692 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 12:28:42 PM
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slick wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


You always lose out opportunities of making money during KQ rallies. Only smart speculators do make money because they don't cling on craps. Your specialty is shouting from the rooftops like a political lunatic kicked out of house business committee while others are eating! Style up young man.


If KQ was a US airline then it would have been bailed out just like US airlines.US airlines are issuing new corporate bonds which the Fed is buying with newly created dollars.Can Opus Dei pull such a stunt in Kenya?Its dishonest way of bailing out a company by central bank money printing but thats how Western markets operate.

In Europe it gets even weirder.Eurozone companies are able to issue zero coupon negative yielding bonds which means investors pay companies to lend to them as opposed to the reverse where companies pay investors interest on corporate bonds.You think I am blowing hot air but companies like Siemens are actually doing this and weird investors scooping such bonds where they are guaranteed to lose money if they hold the bonds to maturity



Wow KQ and Kenyan corporates would love to issue zero coupon negative yielding bonds and get paid to borrow.Woud you be nuts to buy such bonds like in Europe?


It is possible in Africa for investors to behave like western countries'. Even in Wazua @obiero has demonstrated a surging appetite to pump more money to KQ only that he is a peasant can't afford enough. African investors are becoming more weird each day too like their sophisticated counterparts in western democracies.

Are African central banks independent from the watchdog of super-powers when deciding on printing money?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
snifadog
#14693 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 3:54:18 PM
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obiero wrote:
KES 2 by 9am tomorrow.. KES 5 by July..


the turnover for this stock is less than KES 40,000 in a given day and you are calling this a rally?? even I can use my beer money to pump (to the stratosphere) a whole Kenya Airways' stock price in such thin volumes Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Alas wonders galore on NSE
obiero
#14694 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 6:10:21 PM
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Location: nairobi
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
KES 2 by 9am tomorrow.. KES 5 by July..


the turnover for this stock is less than KES 40,000 in a given day and you are calling this a rally?? even I can use my beer money to pump (to the stratosphere) a whole Kenya Airways' stock price in such thin volumes Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Alas wonders galore on NSE

Are you able to read the data above? 473,000 shares is KES 40,000? Do you recall a share restructuring at 4:1 ratio in 2017.. The fact is that unless an Open Offer also named Rights Issue happens, majority of retail traders will still be locked in at ABP KES 21, some as high as KES 40 and beyond. Try to think the volumes out. Ignorance is best left undisplayed

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
muandiwambeu
#14695 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 6:41:32 PM
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Joined: 8/28/2015
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Spikes wrote:
slick wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KQ nearly doubles air fare for Kenyans stranded in Britain

https://www.businessdail...1828-hwsnpuz/index.html[/quote]
42% up in last 7 sessions. Even in a pandemic KQ offered people a chance to make money instead of clowning about, seeking clout


You always lose out opportunities of making money during KQ rallies. Only smart speculators do make money because they don't cling on craps. Your specialty is shouting from the rooftops like a political lunatic kicked out of house business committee while others are eating! Style up young man.


If KQ was a US airline then it would have been bailed out just like US airlines.US airlines are issuing new corporate bonds which the Fed is buying with newly created dollars.Can Opus Dei pull such a stunt in Kenya?Its dishonest way of bailing out a company by central bank money printing but thats how Western markets operate.

In Europe it gets even weirder.Eurozone companies are able to issue zero coupon negative yielding bonds which means investors pay companies to lend to them as opposed to the reverse where companies pay investors interest on corporate bonds.You think I am blowing hot air but companies like Siemens are actually doing this and weird investors scooping such bonds where they are guaranteed to lose money if they hold the bonds to maturity



Wow KQ and Kenyan corporates would love to issue zero coupon negative yielding bonds and get paid to borrow.Woud you be nuts to buy such bonds like in Europe?


It is possible in Africa for investors to behave like western countries'. Even in Wazua @obiero has demonstrated a surging appetite to pump more money to KQ only that he is a peasant can't afford enough. African investors are becoming more weird each day too like their sophisticated counterparts in western democracies.

Are African central banks independent from the watchdog of super-powers when deciding on printing money?

It's ok, in the meantime, let me wish you quick recovery if the boiling was hard pressed.Hii mapenzi yeny Ni mzuri ikuwe recognised. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly wendo Wi Cama by Samidoh And Joyce Wamama.
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sqft
#14696 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:38:48 AM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
Ericsson
#14697 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:56:04 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/...-pilots-e-idUSKBN22Q2B4

KQ can lease the 777 fleet suited for cargo now that it has a shortage of cargo planes
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obiero
#14698 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2020 7:15:47 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-delta-air-pilots-e-idUSKBN22Q2B4

KQ can lease the 777 fleet suited for cargo now that it has a shortage of cargo planes

No money to do that

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
heri
#14699 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:50:28 AM
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snifadog
#14700 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:47:28 PM
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Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
KES 2 by 9am tomorrow.. KES 5 by July..


the turnover for this stock is less than KES 40,000 in a given day and you are calling this a rally?? even I can use my beer money to pump (to the stratosphere) a whole Kenya Airways' stock price in such thin volumes Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Alas wonders galore on NSE

Are you able to read the data above? 473,000 shares is KES 40,000? Do you recall a share restructuring at 4:1 ratio in 2017.. The fact is that unless an Open Offer also named Rights Issue happens, majority of retail traders will still be locked in at ABP KES 21, some as high as KES 40 and beyond. Try to think the volumes out. Ignorance is best left undisplayed


the figure I quoted was May 11th 2020 of 35,800 x 1.39 would give you just about KSh 50,000 which is just under USD 470. that's even less than a return ticket to magufuli land on KQ! alas Obiero your emotional investment in this stock will bankrupt you many times over
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