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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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KQ is too big to fail! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers Key players in govt not interested in building public entities to prosper. They are looking after their own interests and taking over profitable public enterprises. This govt is killing KQ. It won’t be able to compete even if public money is pumped into it. KQ should be protected from competition but the players in govt are just after their own deals with Cargo, Chinese/ Qatari business partners, duty free space, hotel space in JKIA , supply contracts, etc. They don’t care about the minority shareholders and the common people.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers You are approaching stocks from tainted perspective. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/28/2019 Posts: 88 Location: Talai
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sqft wrote:Selling "assets" to foot bills.  Jeso! Have MERCY! WOI!1.19cts!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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tandich wrote:Ericsson wrote:sqft wrote:Selling "assets" to foot bills. An old Airbus plane Looks like a Boeing fuselage It has found a home in Kitengela where it's being remodelled to a club. https://mobile.twitter.c...7878753512034304/photo/2Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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The walevi will certainly get high, very high. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Do you buy @Obiero/thedeal narrative that it's too big to fail? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Do you buy @Obiero/thedeal narrative that it's too big to fail? Not a narrative but a fact
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Also all passengers on delayed or canceled flights are booked exclusively at Weston. So hustler also has his snout in the kq trough. #Dynasty2.0. Everyone is eating and very happy except obiero. https://www.kahawatungu....passengers-weston-hotel/Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Do you buy @Obiero/thedeal narrative that it's too big to fail? Not a narrative but a fact How fast can you process pension? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Do you buy @Obiero/thedeal narrative that it's too big to fail? Not a narrative but a fact Prove it empirically Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Do you buy @Obiero/thedeal narrative that it's too big to fail? Not a narrative but a fact They said the same about KR. Kibaki dismantled it quickly. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:KQ is too big to fail! We will die and leave it ongoing.. Those thinking GoK will allow its collapse are wishful thinkers If you want to know the end, look at the beginning (African Proverb). GOK created KQ in 1977 after collapse of the East African Airways. The East Africans Airlines collapsed with the collase of the East African Community. It is rumoured that Kenyan pilots "stole" EAA planes by secretly flying them from Tanzania to Enbakassi on fears that the Tanzania Govt would appropriate them. KQ was formed after the collapse of an airline and the collapse of a government. Fast forward 2020... the Government if broke, KQ is on a ventilator. KQ was formed out of collapse of a Government and an Airline. It is not too farfetched to surmise that it can die the same way. KQ is being kept afloat because the ruling elite are making money out of it. Kamwana is there Agwambo through Astral and Bakri. Cargo handling business that was to be done by KQ is under Peter Muthoka If Kenya gets a serious leader that who will destroy the dynasty, kq will either be let to die or rise up. Do you buy @Obiero/thedeal narrative that it's too big to fail? Not a narrative but a fact How fast can you process pension? 1 month max
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:sqft wrote:Jambojet suspends all flights. There was no option They ferry cargo Not practical: 1. Plane would have to be refitted for cargo. This means remove seats, overhead carriers, windows. Add rails for pallet containers. 2. Most jambojet planes are custom made for passengers and are not fit for cargo. Cargo versions need higher wings, more engine power and more fuel capacity. 3. There is no business. Cargo business is horticultural produce to Europe and consumer products from Europe and Asia. These markets have groumd to an halt. #2 point is not necessary in the middle of the crisis . Higher wings,more engine power and more fuel capacity do not matter. What is relevant is weight capacity of the carrier. A passenger plane can carry cargo as long as is within its weight limit. On this one the clown was thinking somewhat right. Today, KQ 2764 took off from Nairobi to Johannesburg packed with medical goods and essential items aboard one of our Dreamliners 
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:sqft wrote:Jambojet suspends all flights. There was no option They ferry cargo Not practical: 1. Plane would have to be refitted for cargo. This means remove seats, overhead carriers, windows. Add rails for pallet containers. 2. Most jambojet planes are custom made for passengers and are not fit for cargo. Cargo versions need higher wings, more engine power and more fuel capacity. 3. There is no business. Cargo business is horticultural produce to Europe and consumer products from Europe and Asia. These markets have groumd to an halt. #2 point is not necessary in the middle of the crisis . Higher wings,more engine power and more fuel capacity do not matter. What is relevant is weight capacity of the carrier. A passenger plane can carry cargo as long as is within its weight limit. On this one the clown was thinking somewhat right. Today, KQ 2764 took off from Nairobi to Johannesburg packed with medical goods and essential items aboard one of our Dreamliners I'd be SOMEWHAT genius if I invested all my FORTUNE in KQ a couple of years ago. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=Ericsson]https://mobile.twitter.com/moneyacademyKE/status/1249640605401186304/photo/1 https://www.businessdail...22630-12ifee/index.html[/quote] I said it herein. The cartels in the government wont allow this airline to prosper at all. The problem is also with the management. They are not proactive at all. Any serious manager should have long seized the opportunity and used the passenger planes to ferry cargo across the globe but no one in KQ have done so. ET must have been approached by the cartels/ owners of the cargo handling firms in Kenya and guaranteed approval by the Ministry of transport as shown by the quick response to the application. We have a government that does not take care of the interests of its own strategic assets at all. This action proves what I have been talking about. KQ in the first place should have been allowed to continue flying connecting passengers until demand dries up the way Qatar, Ethiopian are doing. Infact, Emirates is slowly restarting flights.
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