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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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nairobby wrote:passiveinvestor wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Going by KQ latest audited numbers I wonder how Gok will pay shareholders kshs 8 per share.
KQ assets-kshs 136,634,000,000
kq debts-kshs 139,127,000,000
kq shareholders funds-kshs (2,493,000,000)
This means every KQ shareholder is holding a worthless share worth kshs -0.4
Even the current market price of kshs 2 is indeed a premium.
So how does Gok buy a company worth negative 0.4 per share for kshs 8 per share? or which metrics will be used?
Gok will have to fork out kshs 45 billion to buy kq shareholders at kshs 8 per share.This will be a huge generous offe Thanks for asking a basic question that no-one has been able to answer. With the new KES5Bn injection approved on Friday, 28th Feb and a weekend of silence, so no chance to trade, Shareholders will be wiped out on Monday. Especially if it convertible debt with a strike price. KQ is now a govt. parastatal. If the banks are getting bought out at 8.25 there's a chance @obiero and his mates will also be bought out at the same price since all shares rank pari passu. Wouldn't it be complicated to buy out different shareholders with the same class of shares at different price points? This is a gamble of a lifetime however, we'll be here to monitor some people's blood pressure  GoK could pay the banks off separately/later under the agreements they may have in place. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust...  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Letβs wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Letβs wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Letβs wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Letβs wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Letβs wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard            possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace Rock the headcount with which money Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace Rock the headcount with which money 5B remember
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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https://www.iata.org/en/...sroom/pr/2020-03-02-01/ IATA Requests Global Suspension of Slot Rules Due to Coronavirus Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring
They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Letβs wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard The struggling ones like KQ will close shop, just like Flybe.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die We are living in hard times. @obiero be prepared . With corona virus even the government is not safe. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, βMy Father is always working, and so am I.β
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die We are living in hard times. @obiero be prepared . With corona virus even the government is not safe. KQ share price closed below ksh.2 in trading yesterday. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die We are living in hard times. @obiero be prepared . With corona virus even the government is not safe. KQ share price closed below ksh.2 in trading yesterday. Corona will definitely impact our economy as a whole
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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This misungu conclusion will further finish KQ; https://www.standardmedi...ht-crash-that-killed-114In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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[quote=Angelica _ann]This misungu conclusion will further finish KQ; https://www.standardmedi...t-crash-that-killed-114[/quote] This report was done & concluded 10 years ago. Now is when the media is catching up?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Rudder design defects brought the plane down for those who do not know. Some families with information even tried to sue Boeing but the case was dismissed only based on an argument about the jurisdiction.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:Rudder design defects brought the plane down for those who do not know. Some families with information even tried to sue Boeing but the case was dismissed only based on an argument about the jurisdiction. Case is in the link below for those who want to read I canβt find the details of the specific case. https://www.hklaw.com/en...nveniensi-dismissal-in-a
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