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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#13661 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2019 6:40:39 PM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

4 years ago! Let us get something better to do with our various lives, the economy depends on us to be productive citizens
The article is dated 2nd Sep 2019. I hope the issue has been fixed.

You and I know that the Deloitte report is dated.. Media simply wants to sensationalize the KQ stories as it is catchy


For once let me side with KQ ...There was actually no issue in regards to this...Whatever loophole that was there was properly sorted. I don't know why the Star is keen on reporting of such outdated issues instead on focusing on current matters affecting the airline.

The part where I bash at Corporate communication. Most pathetic pieces of c***s in the business.

That unit is a big part of KQ problems. Even the JKIA takeover was mishandled. They should have kept it on the low for the longest time possible and/or spun that expose big time when it came out

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#13662 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2019 7:55:57 PM
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Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
nairobby
#13663 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2019 8:56:05 PM
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maka wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]Dear KQ shareholders,

Good Luck!

https://www.the-star.co....n-excess-baggage-fraud/[/quote]






KQ's maintenance figures always looked very suspect..
ArrestedDev
#13664 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 3:56:34 AM
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nairobby wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]Dear KQ shareholders,

Good Luck!

https://www.the-star.co....n-excess-baggage-fraud/[/quote]






KQ's maintenance figures always looked very suspect..


Biased investigation. What about Aircraft acquisition especially the E190 and how the loans were procured?

Also fuel procurement?

ArrestedDev
#13665 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 4:02:40 AM
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obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.
obiero
#13666 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 7:49:37 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.

And they have ordered 2 A330s

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#13667 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 9:16:04 AM
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KQ CEO and managing director Sebastian Mikosz, also announced that the airline was no longer interested in pushing to run JKIA. The airline withdrew the proposed Privately Initiated Investment Proposal (PIIP)."
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maka
#13668 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 11:26:31 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...
possunt quia posse videntur
VituVingiSana
#13669 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 11:52:34 AM
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maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...

Losses will abound. Both for TZ and UG.
What EAC needs is a single "national" airline that serves this part of the world well.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#13670 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:11:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...

Losses will abound. Both for TZ and UG.
What EAC needs is a single "national" airline that serves this part of the world well.


Establish an airline and divide ownership and executive positions amongst the three member states.
But with the pride that comes with ownership of a national airline,my guess is the member states won't agree to such an arrangement.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#13671 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 12:14:41 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...

Losses will abound. Both for TZ and UG.
What EAC needs is a single "national" airline that serves this part of the world well.


Establish an airline and divide ownership and executive positions amongst the three member states.
But with the pride that comes with ownership of a national airline,my guess is the member states won't agree to such an arrangement.


That would work...
possunt quia posse videntur
chiaroscuro
#13672 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:00:47 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...

Losses will abound. Both for TZ and UG.
What EAC needs is a single "national" airline that serves this part of the world well.


Establish an airline and divide ownership and executive positions amongst the three member states.
But with the pride that comes with ownership of a national airline,my guess is the member states won't agree to such an arrangement.



Yaani, we go back to East African Airways of pre 1976?
littledove
#13673 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 1:32:55 PM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-04/kenya-airways-seeking-more-sway-in-alliance-with-air-france-klm
Kenya Airways Plc is looking to renegotiate a 24-year long partnership with Air France-KLM to gain more control over their cost and revenue-sharing deal and the ability to make agreements with other airlines.
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VituVingiSana
#13674 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:32:00 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...

Losses will abound. Both for TZ and UG.
What EAC needs is a single "national" airline that serves this part of the world well.


Establish an airline and divide ownership and executive positions amongst the three member states.
But with the pride that comes with ownership of a national airline,my guess is the member states won't agree to such an arrangement.



Yaani, we go back to East African Airways of pre 1976?
Far more sensible BUT the EAC Airline should be operated on commercial terms.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
nairobby
#13675 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:54:37 PM
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maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Meanwhile, hopefully the Uganda cockpit crew have effective crabbing techniques like the Pride of Africa


Uganda not worth talking about. Without intra-Africa and international transfers to shore up the regional numbers then it is hard for them to be profitable and remain as a viable Airline which can compete.


They have just started...Lets see how it pans out...

Losses will abound. Both for TZ and UG.
What EAC needs is a single "national" airline that serves this part of the world well.


Establish an airline and divide ownership and executive positions amongst the three member states.
But with the pride that comes with ownership of a national airline,my guess is the member states won't agree to such an arrangement.


That would work...


Jambojet can take a lot of this market share with open skies, I'm watching it closely..
HaMaina
#13676 Posted : Thursday, September 05, 2019 11:20:58 AM
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Kenya Airways Pulls Out of Plan to Run JKIA
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
ArrestedDev
#13677 Posted : Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:22:26 PM
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Stale news. It was stated long ago that they will pursue other options.
ArrestedDev
#13678 Posted : Thursday, September 05, 2019 1:27:52 PM
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Article done by BD in April on the same issue as below.

Macharia announced it long ago.


https://www.google.com.a...asAMP-nptyxz/index.html

obiero
#13679 Posted : Friday, September 06, 2019 7:20:40 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:


Stale news. It was stated long ago that they will pursue other options.

Tugange yajayo

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#13680 Posted : Saturday, September 07, 2019 1:39:31 AM
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LETTERS: Why KQ should not revert to State ownership
https://www.businessdail...62058-11jlxmw/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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