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FUNKY
#13241 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 11:37:55 AM
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sparkly wrote:
I do sympathize with investors who buy into KQ in the belief that GOK will buy them out at KShs 8.52 for the following reasons:

1. Buy out is a mere recommendation by parliament after they rejected PIIP. Nothing concrete.

2. No timelines given for the proposal. It might turn out an infinitum wait like Christians' wait for second coming of Christ.

3. No assurance that buy out will be at Kshs 8.52 for minority shareholders. KQLC did a conditional conversion on agreed terms. Not so with minority shareholders.

4. Too big to fail is a fallacy.


Point number 3 is spot on
the deal
#13242 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 11:51:17 AM
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KQ will be nationalised by 2020....I also believe Gava will bid higher...KES8.52 is just a guideline...could be high as KES15...although KES23 could make @obiero extremely happy...KQ is my signature contrarian play...just minor profit taking and then the stock will rally again...
Ericsson
#13243 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 12:03:03 PM
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Posts: 10,636
Location: NAIROBI
the deal wrote:
KQ will be nationalised by 2020....I also believe Gava will bid higher...KES8.52 is just a guideline...could be high as KES15...although KES23 could make @obiero extremely happy...KQ is my signature contrarian play...just minor profit taking and then the stock will rally again...


Jubilee government doesn't have the financial capability to nationalise KQ,unless MPIGs take a pay cut
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#13244 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 1:38:33 PM
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Posts: 13,472
Location: nairobi
FUNKY wrote:
sparkly wrote:
I do sympathize with investors who buy into KQ in the belief that GOK will buy them out at KShs 8.52 for the following reasons:

1. Buy out is a mere recommendation by parliament after they rejected PIIP. Nothing concrete.

2. No timelines given for the proposal. It might turn out an infinitum wait like Christians' wait for second coming of Christ.

3. No assurance that buy out will be at Kshs 8.52 for minority shareholders. KQLC did a conditional conversion on agreed terms. Not so with minority shareholders.

4. Too big to fail is a fallacy.


Point number 3 is spot on

Open Offer will shake it all up..

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#13245 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 3:26:21 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,050
Location: Nairobi
the deal wrote:
KQ will be nationalised by 2020....I also believe Gava will bid higher...KES8.52 is just a guideline...could be high as KES15...although KES23 could make @obiero extremely happy...KQ is my signature contrarian play...just minor profit taking and then the stock will rally again...

15/-? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Given that optimism, I think you should buy out as many of KQLC's shares. Talk to @obiero and his friends at the Exchange Bar.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#13246 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 4:12:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
KQ will be nationalised by 2020....I also believe Gava will bid higher...KES8.52 is just a guideline...could be high as KES15...although KES23 could make @obiero extremely happy...KQ is my signature contrarian play...just minor profit taking and then the stock will rally again...

15/-? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Given that optimism, I think you should buy out as many of KQLC's shares. Talk to @obiero and his friends at the Exchange Bar.


Too much dreaming going on in this this thread Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#13247 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 4:37:47 PM
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Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
KQ will be nationalised by 2020....I also believe Gava will bid higher...KES8.52 is just a guideline...could be high as KES15...although KES23 could make @obiero extremely happy...KQ is my signature contrarian play...just minor profit taking and then the stock will rally again...

15/-? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Given that optimism, I think you should buy out as many of KQLC's shares. Talk to @obiero and his friends at the Exchange Bar.


Too much dreaming going on in this this thread Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

This is a turnaround purchase.. Google how wealth has been made on such stocks.. KCB in 2004 was such a company and we all know who Sunil Shah is today

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#13248 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 10:11:44 PM
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Posts: 13,472
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ seeks nod to fly into Homa Bay, Lokkichogio and Maasai Mara


With which type of aircraft?
With balloons if we have to. Do not doubt @Obiero. As a member of a member of KQLC, I support the resurgence of KQ.
I wish I had the guts and means to dive into KQ like @Obiero and soar towards the Sun like Icarus.
Soar, @Obiero, Soar.

You know where you heard it first.. Remember MDQ is flown on a leased non-branded aircraft..
You called it. Applause Applause Applause

Official announcement now out https://www.businessdail...197186-n525s5/index.html

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#13249 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2019 11:49:22 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,050
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ seeks nod to fly into Homa Bay, Lokkichogio and Maasai Mara


With which type of aircraft?
With balloons if we have to. Do not doubt @Obiero. As a member of a member of KQLC, I support the resurgence of KQ.
I wish I had the guts and means to dive into KQ like @Obiero and soar towards the Sun like Icarus.
Soar, @Obiero, Soar.

You know where you heard it first.. Remember MDQ is flown on a leased non-branded aircraft..
You called it. Applause Applause Applause

Official announcement now out https://www.businessdail...97186-n525s5/index.html

"...to fly to Wajir, Homabay, Lokichoggio, Isiolo and Maasai Mara using Boeing 777, Boeing 787, Boeing 737 and Boeing 8170 aircraft."
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly 777? 787? What's the 8170?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Horton
#13250 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 12:09:14 AM
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Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ seeks nod to fly into Homa Bay, Lokkichogio and Maasai Mara


With which type of aircraft?
With balloons if we have to. Do not doubt @Obiero. As a member of a member of KQLC, I support the resurgence of KQ.
I wish I had the guts and means to dive into KQ like @Obiero and soar towards the Sun like Icarus.
Soar, @Obiero, Soar.

You know where you heard it first.. Remember MDQ is flown on a leased non-branded aircraft..
You called it. Applause Applause Applause

Official announcement now out https://www.businessdail...97186-n525s5/index.html

"...to fly to Wajir, Homabay, Lokichoggio, Isiolo and Maasai Mara using Boeing 777, Boeing 787, Boeing 737 and Boeing 8170 aircraft."
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly 777? 787? What's the 8170?


Not sure KQ have the 777s either. Also, most jets can’t get into all these airports. Must be for the DHCs
obiero
#13251 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 5:01:33 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,472
Location: nairobi
Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ seeks nod to fly into Homa Bay, Lokkichogio and Maasai Mara


With which type of aircraft?
With balloons if we have to. Do not doubt @Obiero. As a member of a member of KQLC, I support the resurgence of KQ.
I wish I had the guts and means to dive into KQ like @Obiero and soar towards the Sun like Icarus.
Soar, @Obiero, Soar.

You know where you heard it first.. Remember MDQ is flown on a leased non-branded aircraft..
You called it. Applause Applause Applause

Official announcement now out https://www.businessdail...97186-n525s5/index.html

"...to fly to Wajir, Homabay, Lokichoggio, Isiolo and Maasai Mara using Boeing 777, Boeing 787, Boeing 737 and Boeing 8170 aircraft."
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly 777? 787? What's the 8170?


Not sure KQ have the 777s either. Also, most jets can’t get into all these airports. Must be for the DHCs

Definitely none of the listed type of aircraft can be used?? These will be leased planes, similar to MDQ format.. Only Isiolo can attempt to welcome the Embraer. 8170 is a fictional plane developed by the author

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Mastermind
#13252 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 8:49:45 AM
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Joined: 1/25/2012
Posts: 1,624
Location: Langley
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ seeks nod to fly into Homa Bay, Lokkichogio and Maasai Mara


With which type of aircraft?
With balloons if we have to. Do not doubt @Obiero. As a member of a member of KQLC, I support the resurgence of KQ.
I wish I had the guts and means to dive into KQ like @Obiero and soar towards the Sun like Icarus.
Soar, @Obiero, Soar.

You know where you heard it first.. Remember MDQ is flown on a leased non-branded aircraft..
You called it. Applause Applause Applause

Official announcement now out https://www.businessdail...97186-n525s5/index.html

"...to fly to Wajir, Homabay, Lokichoggio, Isiolo and Maasai Mara using Boeing 777, Boeing 787, Boeing 737 and Boeing 8170 aircraft."
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly 777? 787? What's the 8170?


Not sure KQ have the 777s either. Also, most jets can’t get into all these airports. Must be for the DHCs

Definitely none of the listed type of aircraft can be used?? These will be leased planes, similar to MDQ format.. Only Isiolo can attempt to welcome the Embraer. 8170 is a fictional plane developed by the author

E170!!! It appeared so because he copy pasted direct from the gazette notice and never bothered to counter check.

"Using aircraft types B777, B787, B737,E170,E190, E145 and DHC8 based at Jomo Kenyatta, Moi, Kisumu and Eldoret International airports." Reads the gazette notice.
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
Ericsson
#13253 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:02:00 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,636
Location: NAIROBI
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#13254 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:12:27 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,472
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.

Check out the volume on the way down.. Therein lies your answer..

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#13255 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:14:57 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,636
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.

Check out the volume on the way down.. Therein lies your answer..

Volume was equally the same on the way up

Highest price quoted today is lower than closing price of yesterday.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#13256 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:24:34 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,472
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.

Check out the volume on the way down.. Therein lies your answer..

Volume was equally the same on the way up

Highest price quoted today is lower than closing price of yesterday.

I'm busy at the moment but will send you the 7 day volume trend

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#13257 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:42:20 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.

Check out the volume on the way down.. Therein lies your answer..

Volume was equally the same on the way up

Highest price quoted today is lower than closing price of yesterday.


KShs 2.5 by end of the year.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#13258 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:55:08 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,050
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.

Check out the volume on the way down.. Therein lies your answer..

Volume was equally the same on the way up

Highest price quoted today is lower than closing price of yesterday.


KShs 2.5 by end of the year.

Which is 2.50 too much for a bankrupt firm.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#13259 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:03:26 PM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The road down is as fast as the road up.
Share price behaviour.

Check out the volume on the way down.. Therein lies your answer..

Volume was equally the same on the way up

Highest price quoted today is lower than closing price of yesterday.


I warned @Obiero before he burst into jubilation celebrating a botched crap rally. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#13260 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2019 7:13:18 PM
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We are getting 4 new Q400s....
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