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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
sparkly
#12401 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:19:16 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax


You take exchange bar rumours too seriously d'oh! Sad d'oh!

Businesses in losses don't pay corporate tax. They carry forward losses to offset against future profits.

In my estimation, KQ hasn't paid corporate tax since 2010.
Life is short. Live passionately.
xxxxx
#12402 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:25:29 AM
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Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 503
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax


You take exchange bar rumours too seriously d'oh! Sad d'oh!

Businesses in losses don't pay corporate tax. They carry forward losses to offset against future profits.

In my estimation, KQ hasn't paid corporate tax since 2010.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly sounds like financial accounting 101 lessonsLaughing out loudly
KaunganaDoDo
#12403 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:38:47 AM
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Posts: 292
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT
sparkly
#12404 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:54:35 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#12405 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 11:51:40 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#12406 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:01:34 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
xxxxx wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax


You take exchange bar rumours too seriously d'oh! Sad d'oh!

Businesses in losses don't pay corporate tax. They carry forward losses to offset against future profits.

In my estimation, KQ hasn't paid corporate tax since 2010.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly sounds like financial accounting 101 lessonsLaughing out loudly

There are things you cannot teach your father.. Of course KQ does not pay the tax currently but taking it out altogether puts it onto equal footing with Ethiopian

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#12407 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:10:15 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding


They also don't pay taxes on fuel, the food consumed aboard and the duty free merchandise sold to customers but that hasn't helped much.

The problem is operations and finance costs, not taxation.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#12408 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:13:10 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding


They also don't pay taxes on fuel, the food consumed aboard and the duty free merchandise sold to customers but that hasn't helped much.

The problem is operations and finance costs, not taxation.

The tax on new plane purchases currently still stands with a B787 costing upto KES 25B.. Be serious!

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#12409 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:46:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding


They also don't pay taxes on fuel, the food consumed aboard and the duty free merchandise sold to customers but that hasn't helped much.

The problem is operations and finance costs, not taxation.

The tax on new plane purchases currently still stands with a B787 costing upto KES 25B.. Be serious!


KQ is zero-rated for VAT so they get a refund from KRA on the full VAT paid on planes.
Life is short. Live passionately.
xxxxx
#12410 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:49:40 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 503
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding


They also don't pay taxes on fuel, the food consumed aboard and the duty free merchandise sold to customers but that hasn't helped much.

The problem is operations and finance costs, not taxation.

The tax on new plane purchases currently still stands with a B787 costing upto KES 25B.. Be serious!


If up to now @Obiero still believes KQs challenges will be addressed in any way by tax exemptions then this thread should be closedLaughing out loudly coz clearly, he's way in too deep.
sparkly
#12411 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:27:25 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
xxxxx wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding


They also don't pay taxes on fuel, the food consumed aboard and the duty free merchandise sold to customers but that hasn't helped much.

The problem is operations and finance costs, not taxation.

The tax on new plane purchases currently still stands with a B787 costing upto KES 25B.. Be serious!


If up to now @Obiero still believes KQs challenges will be addressed in any way by tax exemptions then this thread should be closedLaughing out loudly coz clearly, he's way in too deep.



Clutching at straws Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. KQ does not pay taxes, infact it is directly consuming taxes through taxpayer bailouts and loan write-offs.

How will tax exemption help a company which is not paying taxes but consumming taxes?d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#12412 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 1:40:35 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
obiero wrote:
News just in from the Exchange Bar, KQ to be exempt from payment of corporate tax

I doubt. No entity, whether corporate or human being can be exempted from tax obligations under our current constitution. Any Exemption can be general but not this specific, Tax exemptions will have to be given to other competitors. even 100% government owned enterprises like GDC pay corporate tax. Even KDF canteens nowadays pay VAT


Many International, National and Charitable institutions are exempted. Diplomatic, Disabled and senior citizens are also exempted from tax.

An exemption for KQ has to be passed by Parliament.

KQ already enjoys tax exempt status on full engine import and related accessories.. Now we are going to seal the bleeding


They also don't pay taxes on fuel, the food consumed aboard and the duty free merchandise sold to customers but that hasn't helped much.

The problem is operations and finance costs, not taxation.

The tax on new plane purchases currently still stands with a B787 costing upto KES 25B.. Be serious!


KQ is zero-rated for VAT so they get a refund from KRA on the full VAT paid on planes.

When was the last time any firm received a tax refund.. 2017! Why charge a tax and then take 2 years to refund? Does it make sense to the company?
https://www.the-star.co....ions-to-offset-expenses/

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#12413 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 4:00:10 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,641
Location: NAIROBI
Share price at below ksh.4
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#12414 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 5:07:29 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4

Buyers manna. Quite sad that the PIIP has been brushed aside by the MPs. It has alot to do with the attitude of Mikosz during the debates.. He was too brash. Niweke kwa maombi

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ebenyo
#12415 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:33:26 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 1,996
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4





3.96-4.00 With a volume of 114,800.
Market has reacted negatively to the idea of nationalisation of KQ.
Yesterday,it traded 36,400 shares at 4.38 down from 4.50.The current moves doesnt excite the market.
Mikorsy will have to come up with other ideas.

Towards the goal of financial freedom
tandich
#12416 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:39:12 PM
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Joined: 5/6/2008
Posts: 199
obiero
#12417 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:52:54 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4





3.96-4.00 With a volume of 114,800.
Market has reacted negatively to the idea of nationalisation of KQ.
Yesterday,it traded 36,400 shares at 4.38 down from 4.50.The current moves doesnt excite the market.
Mikorsy will have to come up with other ideas.


I'm soo screwed.. Mungu tangulia

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Impunity
#12418 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:13:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4





3.96-4.00 With a volume of 114,800.
Market has reacted negatively to the idea of nationalisation of KQ.
Yesterday,it traded 36,400 shares at 4.38 down from 4.50.The current moves doesnt excite the market.
Mikorsy will have to come up with other ideas.


I'm soo screwed.. Mungu tangulia


Sub 2 bob...here we come finally.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Spikes
#12419 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 10:22:08 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4





3.96-4.00 With a volume of 114,800.
Market has reacted negatively to the idea of nationalisation of KQ.
Yesterday,it traded 36,400 shares at 4.38 down from 4.50.The current moves doesnt excite the market.
Mikorsy will have to come up with other ideas.


I'm soo screwed.. Mungu tangulia


When I warned you branded me a clown...Now you see the 2 bob I sang for you has come to pass. A prophecy fulfilled. I'm now thinking of loading up for speculation. For your information I'll buy at less than 2bob from desperate Wanjiku who is no longer interested in holding a crap.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#12420 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2019 11:28:41 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4





3.96-4.00 With a volume of 114,800.
Market has reacted negatively to the idea of nationalisation of KQ.
Yesterday,it traded 36,400 shares at 4.38 down from 4.50.The current moves doesnt excite the market.
Mikorsy will have to come up with other ideas.


I'm soo screwed.. Mungu tangulia


When I warned you branded me a clown...Now you see the 2 bob I sang for you has come to pass. A prophecy fulfilled. I'm now thinking of loading up for speculation. For your information I'll buy at less than 2bob from desperate Wanjiku who is no longer interested in holding a crap.



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possunt quia posse videntur
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