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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The engine actually did catch fire FYI... How would you feel as a passenger being told that  ... That one is out for sometime also.... Disruptions zitakuwa for a while.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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This will reach here next year... Picked up on WhatsApp... Good morning Ruks. I know I normally do not agree with you on certain issues. But this time, you have hit the nail on the head. The total amount owed to 11 Kenyan Banks is KES 23 billion. Of these Banks, the CBA Bank and NIC Banks, have recently been merged. They are both owed KES 3.1 billion and KES 2.1 billion respectively, by KQ. The total amount owed to the new Bank Alliance, is therefore KES 5.2 billion. Almost 25% of the total owed to the local banks by KQ. The Group Managing Director Of CBA is Isaac Awuondo. He is also the Chairman of KAA. Now do your maths. Also, in the near future, two lucrative contracts may come in handy. The Greenfields Terminal and JKIA’s Second Runway. They are worth billions. Whoever has the power to award those 2 Contracts in traditional Kenyan concept, will be a rich man. Some French Contractors may be waiting in the wings to grab these, thanks to KQ’s Alliance with KLM/Air France, which runs KQ. The French Government had provided the cash for the Terminal and the French Contractors were incensed when the contract went to the Chinese. The contract was later terminated after it had eaten up KES 4 billion. When asked about it, Jonny Andersen said he had no record of the 4 billion transaction. The French Contractors, in their bid to win the contract, had offered to build, operate and hand over the Terminal, after 30 years. What a coincidence? KQ is offering a Concession to manage the JKIA for 30 years. That is why I feel that the puppet strings behind the newly created SPV, or the Special Purpose Vehicle, to be created to run JKIA, come from France and Holland, through their Airlines’ Alliance with KQ. That is why I have been calling KQ a Trojan Horse. It is being used by vested interests to get to where the big money is. KQ is supposed to offer Services such as Ground Handling, Catering Services, etc. KQ can hardly do the Ground Handling for itself, judging from Friday’s collision of two Aircraft. Besides, it is alleged to have sold all it’s ground equipment to an entity, that leases the same to KQ. Food Catering Services are handled by NAS, which has been merged with SERVAIR, a French Company. Ground Handling for JKIA, if KQ takes over JKIA, will likely come from Holland. Cobalt Ground Handling Solutions Ltd., is owned by KLM/Air France. Is is just a coincidence, that Jan De Vegt, the current KQ COO, was the Managing Director Of Cobalt in London Heathrow before he was seconded to KQ by KLM? Cobalt also does Ground Handling for KQ in Heathrow. At great cost, I must say. When he’d been sent home in September last year, after his work permit had expired, some interested parties at KQ, KLM and the Government, fought for his return to KQ. Apparently because his job at KQ was the “IN KIND” contribution that KLM had given for KQ’s revival, instead of the USD 100 million it had promised to pay. And why was Kenya Aerotech, a Kenyan Ground Handling Company at JKIA, being pushed out of the airport for a mere KES 5 million, at the end of last year? Was it to make room for Cobalt, or other European Ground Handling Franchises, to be invited by the SPV to render the Ground Services at JKIA for the next 30 years? These are hard questions indeed. There are far too many parties interested in this merger for what they can get out of it. But WHO is minding the SHOP? WHO will be running KQ after the merger? Why is nobody interested in solving KQ’s major headache? KLM/Air France, and their JV Agreement, that has brought KQ to it’s knees? Sort this one out and you can forget KQ/KAA merger, SPV’s, KAA Staff Strikes, the lot. KQ and Kenyans deserve better. Bondage and recolonization are things from the past. They should not feature in Kenya any time in the next 30 years!! PERIOD!! possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:This will reach here next year...
Picked up on WhatsApp...
Good morning Ruks. I know I normally do not agree with you on certain issues. But this time, you have hit the nail on the head.
The total amount owed to 11 Kenyan Banks is KES 23 billion. Of these Banks, the CBA Bank and NIC Banks, have recently been merged. They are both owed KES 3.1 billion and KES 2.1 billion respectively, by KQ. The total amount owed to the new Bank Alliance, is therefore KES 5.2 billion. Almost 25% of the total owed to the local banks by KQ. The Group Managing Director Of CBA is Isaac Awuondo. He is also the Chairman of KAA.
Now do your maths. Also, in the near future, two lucrative contracts may come in handy. The Greenfields Terminal and JKIA’s Second Runway. They are worth billions. Whoever has the power to award those 2 Contracts in traditional Kenyan concept, will be a rich man.
Some French Contractors may be waiting in the wings to grab these, thanks to KQ’s Alliance with KLM/Air France, which runs KQ. The French Government had provided the cash for the Terminal and the French Contractors were incensed when the contract went to the Chinese. The contract was later terminated after it had eaten up KES 4 billion. When asked about it, Jonny Andersen said he had no record of the 4 billion transaction. The French Contractors, in their bid to win the contract, had offered to build, operate and hand over the Terminal, after 30 years. What a coincidence? KQ is offering a Concession to manage the JKIA for 30 years.
That is why I feel that the puppet strings behind the newly created SPV, or the Special Purpose Vehicle, to be created to run JKIA, come from France and Holland, through their Airlines’ Alliance with KQ.
That is why I have been calling KQ a Trojan Horse. It is being used by vested interests to get to where the big money is. KQ is supposed to offer Services such as Ground Handling, Catering Services, etc. KQ can hardly do the Ground Handling for itself, judging from Friday’s collision of two Aircraft. Besides, it is alleged to have sold all it’s ground equipment to an entity, that leases the same to KQ. Food Catering Services are handled by NAS, which has been merged with SERVAIR, a French Company. Ground Handling for JKIA, if KQ takes over JKIA, will likely come from Holland. Cobalt Ground Handling Solutions Ltd., is owned by KLM/Air France.
Is is just a coincidence, that Jan De Vegt, the current KQ COO, was the Managing Director Of Cobalt in London Heathrow before he was seconded to KQ by KLM? Cobalt also does Ground Handling for KQ in Heathrow. At great cost, I must say. When he’d been sent home in September last year, after his work permit had expired, some interested parties at KQ, KLM and the Government, fought for his return to KQ. Apparently because his job at KQ was the “IN KIND” contribution that KLM had given for KQ’s revival, instead of the USD 100 million it had promised to pay.
And why was Kenya Aerotech, a Kenyan Ground Handling Company at JKIA, being pushed out of the airport for a mere KES 5 million, at the end of last year? Was it to make room for Cobalt, or other European Ground Handling Franchises, to be invited by the SPV to render the Ground Services at JKIA for the next 30 years? These are hard questions indeed.
There are far too many parties interested in this merger for what they can get out of it. But WHO is minding the SHOP? WHO will be running KQ after the merger? Why is nobody interested in solving KQ’s major headache? KLM/Air France, and their JV Agreement, that has brought KQ to it’s knees? Sort this one out and you can forget KQ/KAA merger, SPV’s, KAA Staff Strikes, the lot.
KQ and Kenyans deserve better. Bondage and recolonization are things from the past. They should not feature in Kenya any time in the next 30 years!! PERIOD!! Of course the first family have interests in the majority of the businesses in Kenya. The same with the other well connected families who were in the system after independence e.g. Ndegwa and the rest. The Indians also including Kamlesh who has been running the JKIA duty free shops. I can read/ identify easily that some claims are false/baseless e.g. the E190s accident happened in the hangar and nothing to do with Ground Handling. Secondly, KLM control of KQ is dwindling - expansion into Europe previously refused by KLM, Jan given only one year, Ground services director left, etc KQ also likely to create its own Catering, ground handling company after merger with JKIA and the claims of NAS remaining preferred supply may not be true. @maka, confirm who took over KQ's ground handling equipment.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/24/2017 Posts: 44
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. that's good news for KQ and the passengers.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/24/2017 Posts: 44
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Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. ...and, the affected Embraer flights have been reassigned to the 73 fleet, and the some direct ones recombined. The good thing is that this is the low season, so not much disruption will happen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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gazeti ya kufunga nyama wrote:Tuesday February 19, 2019 - The National Assembly’s Public Investments Committee has revealed that Kenya Airways is still in a financial mess despite appointing a new board last year.
Addressing the Press on Tuesday, Mvita MP, Abdulswamad Shariff, who is a committee member, said that they were shocked to learn that State operatives and cartels are still running the show at Kenya Airways.
Sharrif said they learnt that KQ has 28 planes that are in operation but only three of them are owned by KQ - The rest are owned by senior Government officials and rogue businessmen in Kenya
The MP said they have summoned Kenya Airways CEO, Sebastian Mikosz, and chairman, Michael Joseph, to tell Kenyans who are the real owners of the 25 planes that are hired by KQ.
“We need to know these people because they are the cartels that are making the company go into losses. I hear they were former Government officials but Kenyans deserve to know them,” Shariff said.
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This is so annoying. Why don’t airport companies find some other way to fight for their rights. In this way they are only making us more reluctant to use air services and secure our trip by using some other means of transportation, if possible
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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Beler wrote:This is so annoying. Why don’t airport companies find some other way to fight for their rights. In this way they are only making us more reluctant to use air services and secure our trip by using some other means of transportation, if possible This is kenya where kunyakua and nyakua is the order of the day Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Beler wrote:This is so annoying. Why don’t airport companies find some other way to fight for their rights. In this way they are only making us more reluctant to use air services and secure our trip by using some other means of transportation, if possible This is kenya where kunyakua and nyakua is the order of the day I believe the planes were leased/acquired through loans. Planes are not cheap and don’t see the reason why an individual can take a loan to purchase and lease to KQ. When a plane is acquired wholly through a loan from a bank, a SPV is registered and ownership of the plane is transferred to the SPV. When the loan is fully paid up by the Airline then ownership/ title is now handed over to the Airline. It is complex finance area and laymen cannot understand. The Mpigs are being used by the owners of Gulf oil, the company who lost out on the jet fuel contract.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Zichi wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. ...and, the affected Embraer flights have been reassigned to the 73 fleet, and the some direct ones recombined. The good thing is that this is the low season, so not much disruption will happen That’s brilliant. How is the Mogadishu flight doing?
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ArrestedDev wrote:Zichi wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. ...and, the affected Embraer flights have been reassigned to the 73 fleet, and the some direct ones recombined. The good thing is that this is the low season, so not much disruption will happen That’s brilliant. How is the Mogadishu flight doing? Mogadishu is doing well...heard the ERJ is becoming small for the route. They may have to get a bigger plane (nothing concrete though, just rumours)
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Zichi wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. ...and, the affected Embraer flights have been reassigned to the 73 fleet, and the some direct ones recombined. The good thing is that this is the low season, so not much disruption will happen That’s brilliant. How is the Mogadishu flight doing? Mogadishu is doing well...heard the ERJ is becoming small for the route. They may have to get a bigger plane (nothing concrete though, just rumours) Passenger numbers to climb up steadily in 2019. Revenue increase is the result. All courtesy of the fat man.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Zichi wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. ...and, the affected Embraer flights have been reassigned to the 73 fleet, and the some direct ones recombined. The good thing is that this is the low season, so not much disruption will happen That’s brilliant. How is the Mogadishu flight doing? Mogadishu is doing well...heard the ERJ is becoming small for the route. They may have to get a bigger plane (nothing concrete though, just rumours) Passenger numbers to climb up steadily in 2019. Revenue increase is the result. All courtesy of the fat man. Results ndizo kusema ukweli...Just around the corner... 😊 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Zichi wrote:Zichi wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Which one do they have? Aviation Insurance wrote:Aviation insurance is a cover that is geared specifically towards the operation of an aircraft. This policy is distinctly different from policies applied to the other areas of transportation and Aviation insurance is divided into several types of covers:
Public liability insurance
Often referred to as ‘third party liability’, this insurance policy covers the owner of the aircraft for damage done to third party property like cars, farms, buildings. However, it does not cover the damage done to the insured aircraft or for passengers on the aircraft mentioned above.
Passenger liability insurance
This policy, always sold on a ‘per-seat’ basis, covers the passengers in the insured aircraft in the case of an accident or incident that would harm the passengers.
Combined Single Limit (CSL)
This policy is simply a combination of the public liability cover and the passenger liability cover with a single overall limit per accident. This cover provides more flexibility in paying claims for liability, especially if the passengers in the insured aircraft are injured, but there is some damage done to third party property on the ground
Ground risk hull insurance – not in motion.
This policy covers the insured aircraft against damage when it is on the ground and not in motion. In
instances like vandalism, floods, theft.
Ground risk hull insurance – in motion (taxiing)
This policy is almost similar to the ground risk hull insurance not in motion, only that this policy only covers the aircraft while it’s taxiing but not while landing or taking off.
In-flight insurance
The in-flight policy covers the insured aircraft against damage during all phases of the ground and flight operations, this is inclusive of when the insured aircraft is in storage or parking. Naturally, this policy is more expensive than ‘not-in-motion’ policy since most damages happen to the aircrafts while in motion. Give it time we will know.... There must be some sort of insurance. Several risks are always involved during maintenance. One Airbus belonging to Qatar Airways burnt due to a fire during maintenance few months ago. KQ has one dreamliner stuck in TZ.... Apparently the engine caught fire on its way to SA... The things you never hear about... Crew did emergency landing in TZ? For how long now has it been there? Yep still there as we speak.... A week now.... I hope flights disruption does not occur any time soon. Are the E190s being worked on or still parked? Wazua leads others follow.... 😊 https://www.theeastafric...asAMP-wd4b64/index.html
The fat guy knows how to craft responses. I hope the operations does not get messed up and hopefully the repairs commences ASAP. The B787 engine must still be under warranty and GE might pay compensation to KQ. The 787 should be back in service in the course of the week. A spare engine core was flown to Dar yesterday for replacement. The affected one will be flown to boeing for analysis. As for the Embraers, KCAA has to finish their investigations before work is done on them. A few guys from Embraer and the insurance have been seen around assessing the damage. ...and, the affected Embraer flights have been reassigned to the 73 fleet, and the some direct ones recombined. The good thing is that this is the low season, so not much disruption will happen That’s brilliant. How is the Mogadishu flight doing? Mogadishu is doing well...heard the ERJ is becoming small for the route. They may have to get a bigger plane (nothing concrete though, just rumours) Passenger numbers to climb up steadily in 2019. Revenue increase is the result. All courtesy of the fat man. Results ndizo kusema ukweli...Just around the corner... 😊 2018 results is a loss made worse by increased fuel cost, new destinations, etc. People know this already including the Mpigs on the story you posted.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Increased fuel costs? possunt quia posse videntur
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