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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..  KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi.. KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? I have said it here umpteen times. The current price for KQ is not factual hence the low volume count since November 2017 when the share was suspended pending restructuring.. Upon release of the Open Offer details, you will get to find out the true value of KQ
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,641 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi.. KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? I have said it here umpteen times. The current price for KQ is not factual hence the low volume count since November 2017 when the share was suspended pending restructuring.. Upon release of the Open Offer details, you will get to find out the true value of KQ Open offer ilisahaulika and was passed by events.Right now focus is profitability and positive shareholder equity Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,060 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%. Even @maka the pessimistic man has smelt the KQ rebound coffee.. Watch and learn
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi.. KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? I have said it here umpteen times. The current price for KQ is not factual hence the low volume count since November 2017 when the share was suspended pending restructuring.. Upon release of the Open Offer details, you will get to find out the true value of KQ Open offer ilisahaulika and was passed by events.Right now focus is profitability and positive shareholder equity That is absurd.. The Open Offer was never cancelled.. You do know that KQ is currently arranging for KES 18B financing via KQLC to be structured under the Ordinary Mandatory Convert option 1, primarily for new planes and parts purchases? And KLM have issued a LHR slot in exchange of additional KES 3.5 billion worth of KQ shares? KAA release of JKIA in concession to KQ set to be completed latest January 2019? There's a lot happening in the background at KQ on both the financial and operation ends.. Remember the Polish man said he wants a fleet of over 150 planes and over 100 destinations. Sio kujigamba but I am good at buying at the very lowest possible price.. Remember BK, BRW, CENT, COOP, FIRE, HF, KCB, KEGN, SBUG.. Mutajua hamjui
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,641 Location: NAIROBI
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Emirates airlines half year profits drop 86% due to higher oil prices Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Which banks are in this KQLC arrangement? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Emirates airlines half year profits drop 86% due to higher oil prices Should have hedged
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%. Even @maka the pessimistic man has smelt the KQ rebound coffee.. Watch and learn Nuh nothing to write home about... Bleeding like crazy.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%. Even @maka the pessimistic man has smelt the KQ rebound coffee.. Watch and learn Nuh nothing to write home about... Bleeding like crazy.... Break even is at 90%.... 210 pax.... That came out today it will be in the public domain in the near future like everything I have said....  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%. Even @maka the pessimistic man has smelt the KQ rebound coffee.. Watch and learn Nuh nothing to write home about... Bleeding like crazy.... Break even is at 90%.... 210 pax.... That came out today it will be in the public domain in the near future like everything I have said.... Everyone knows that new airline routes do NOT make a profit in the initial 2-3 years. There's no joy in seeing a blind man tumble.. Dog bites man 🤷🏾♂️
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%. Even @maka the pessimistic man has smelt the KQ rebound coffee.. Watch and learn Nuh nothing to write home about... Bleeding like crazy.... The trick is to feed into the African connections.. KQ management are aware that NYC-NBO will not be adding to the profits soon but it sure will add to the revenue. The alleged bleeding costs net off on the profitable intra Africa routes. Remember the tag line, Winning In Africa
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2008 Posts: 199
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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tandich wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment? It could work based on the fuel efficiency of the chosen aircraft.. Ethiopian flies the same type of plane on its long haul. Remember current pricing is still introductory. Meanwhile why would anyone care to count the number of bags left, if not to smear KQ. 29 bags are not many bags out of the number of passangers
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Angelica _ann wrote:Which banks are in this KQLC arrangement? Asante Google Equity, NBK, Coop, CBA, NIC, KCB, DTB, I&M, Ecobank...... & Chase bank & (Jamii Bora) Something odd, no mzungu aka kaburu bank including the leading conmanship syndicate loans arranger in Kenya in that fake arrangement. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:hardwood wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! An 84% load factor is excellent. Global average is 79%. Even @maka the pessimistic man has smelt the KQ rebound coffee.. Watch and learn Nuh nothing to write home about... Bleeding like crazy.... Break even is at 90%.... 210 pax.... That came out today it will be in the public domain in the near future like everything I have said.... Everyone knows that new airline routes do NOT make a profit in the initial 2-3 years. There's no joy in seeing a blind man tumble.. Dog bites man 🤷🏾♂️ Nobody denies that... Question I asked earlier do you think KQ can hack 2 years of loss making on one route...? Govt has to give them some funds at the end of the day a bit of the 520Bn borrowed the other day wouldn't be bad... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Sasa what did you want them to do? To carry excess so that ishindwe kutake off ama? Portfolio: Sold
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