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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. A disaster for KQ. They had such a long time to develop a concrete strategy for this route. Waiting to see how low the share price will fall.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,175 Location: nairobi
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2012 wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. A disaster for KQ. They had such a long time to develop a concrete strategy for this route. Waiting to see how low the share price will fall. the hype is over,it's time for the reality,how fast has the route become unreliable?those few customers available won't trust them going forward "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Somalia pushed to 5th Dec... So many things haven't been finalised... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. A disaster for KQ. They had such a long time to develop a concrete strategy for this route. Waiting to see how low the share price will fall. Well I said earlier they don't have a Strategy Director or Strategy team.... It was expected... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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maka wrote:2012 wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. A disaster for KQ. They had such a long time to develop a concrete strategy for this route. Waiting to see how low the share price will fall. Well I said earlier they don't have a Strategy Director or Strategy team.... It was expected... They are using 'Consultants', most fake bunch of 'professionals'. Easy to get findings and make recommendations, but the difficult part in action/implementation - that is when reality hits you. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:2012 wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. A disaster for KQ. They had such a long time to develop a concrete strategy for this route. Waiting to see how low the share price will fall. Well I said earlier they don't have a Strategy Director or Strategy team.... It was expected... Strategy can be developed by an individual.. Our overliance on committees isn't helpful
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ Kudos for the quick reaction by management Viboko for attrocious demand projectuons Winter couples up with Xmas. Who travels away from home over this season Ummh why did we not start with 3 flights per week? Because when you are starting out a cosmetic, electric, electrical or any other shop you stock every necessary item in hope of a possible sale and demand thereafter guides you on the restocking levels This is completely different. KQ already had flight data available for US bound passengers well before the launch. And if you are opening any shop and don't conduct basic research, eg on foot traffic, you are simply looking to create employment not make a profit. The article itself is self contadictory. They say that they had already decided to start out with a lower flight frequency as far back as October 28th, but announced daily flights at the time of launch. That quote is by business daily and not KQ management. In winter, the defrost activity on the plane leads to high fuel burn. Wacha turudi March 2019. Tafadhali please don't force us to fly half empty planes across the Atlantic
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Paul Wiegant.. Director Ground Services has called it a day... Jan bado ana issue orders remotely akingoja work permit am seeing him also resigning... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:Paul Wiegant.. Director Ground Services has called it a day... Jan bado ana issue orders remotely akingoja work permit am seeing him also resigning... Michael Joseph flew to Amsterdam and didn't have a good meeting with Elbers. Since that day, it's been systemic and systematic breakdown of KLM stalwarts
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ Kudos for the quick reaction by management Viboko for attrocious demand projectuons Winter couples up with Xmas. Who travels away from home over this season Ummh why did we not start with 3 flights per week? Because when you are starting out a cosmetic, electric, electrical or any other shop you stock every necessary item in hope of a possible sale and demand thereafter guides you on the restocking levels This is completely different. KQ already had flight data available for US bound passengers well before the launch. And if you are opening any shop and don't conduct basic research, eg on foot traffic, you are simply looking to create employment not make a profit. The article itself is self contadictory. They say that they had already decided to start out with a lower flight frequency as far back as October 28th, but announced daily flights at the time of launch. That quote is by business daily and not KQ management. In winter, the defrost activity on the plane leads to high fuel burn. Wacha turudi March 2019. Tafadhali please don't force us to fly half empty planes across the Atlantic This is the first positive editorial I have seen on KQ in the last 5 years https://www.businessdail...852070-x1g5p6/index.html
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ Kudos for the quick reaction by management Viboko for attrocious demand projectuons Winter couples up with Xmas. Who travels away from home over this season Ummh why did we not start with 3 flights per week? Because when you are starting out a cosmetic, electric, electrical or any other shop you stock every necessary item in hope of a possible sale and demand thereafter guides you on the restocking levels This is completely different. KQ already had flight data available for US bound passengers well before the launch. And if you are opening any shop and don't conduct basic research, eg on foot traffic, you are simply looking to create employment not make a profit. The article itself is self contadictory. They say that they had already decided to start out with a lower flight frequency as far back as October 28th, but announced daily flights at the time of launch. That quote is by business daily and not KQ management. In winter, the defrost activity on the plane leads to high fuel burn. Wacha turudi March 2019. Tafadhali please don't force us to fly half empty planes across the Atlantic This is the first positive editorial I have seen on KQ in the last 5 years https://www.businessdail...52070-x1g5p6/index.html[/quote] Where is the rest of the Editorial? This looks like it was written by a CSA... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ Kudos for the quick reaction by management Viboko for attrocious demand projectuons Winter couples up with Xmas. Who travels away from home over this season Ummh why did we not start with 3 flights per week? Because when you are starting out a cosmetic, electric, electrical or any other shop you stock every necessary item in hope of a possible sale and demand thereafter guides you on the restocking levels This is completely different. KQ already had flight data available for US bound passengers well before the launch. And if you are opening any shop and don't conduct basic research, eg on foot traffic, you are simply looking to create employment not make a profit. The article itself is self contadictory. They say that they had already decided to start out with a lower flight frequency as far back as October 28th, but announced daily flights at the time of launch. That quote is by business daily and not KQ management. In winter, the defrost activity on the plane leads to high fuel burn. Wacha turudi March 2019. Tafadhali please don't force us to fly half empty planes across the Atlantic This is the first positive editorial I have seen on KQ in the last 5 years https://www.businessdail...52070-x1g5p6/index.html
Where is the rest of the Editorial? This looks like it was written by a CSA... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ It matters little who wrote it, but the fact is that it's made it as a positive in the newspaper
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2011 Posts: 396
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ Kudos for the quick reaction by management Viboko for attrocious demand projectuons Winter couples up with Xmas. Who travels away from home over this season Ummh why did we not start with 3 flights per week? Because when you are starting out a cosmetic, electric, electrical or any other shop you stock every necessary item in hope of a possible sale and demand thereafter guides you on the restocking levels This is completely different. KQ already had flight data available for US bound passengers well before the launch. And if you are opening any shop and don't conduct basic research, eg on foot traffic, you are simply looking to create employment not make a profit. The article itself is self contadictory. They say that they had already decided to start out with a lower flight frequency as far back as October 28th, but announced daily flights at the time of launch. That quote is by business daily and not KQ management. In winter, the defrost activity on the plane leads to high fuel burn. Wacha turudi March 2019. Tafadhali please don't force us to fly half empty planes across the Atlantic This is the first positive editorial I have seen on KQ in the last 5 years https://www.businessdail...52070-x1g5p6/index.html
Where is the rest of the Editorial? This looks like it was written by a CSA... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ It matters little who wrote it, but the fact is that it's made it as a positive in the newspaper By the way, I want KQ to succeed. I am just stating that they seemed to have gotten their demand forecasting wrong. It would have been no skin off their teeth to start with a staggered schedule and then ramp up later.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Paul Wiegant.. Director Ground Services has called it a day... Jan bado ana issue orders remotely akingoja work permit am seeing him also resigning... Michael Joseph flew to Amsterdam and didn't have a good meeting with Elbers. Since that day, it's been systemic and systematic breakdown of KLM stalwarts Thanks @maka for the update. I hope Janβs permit is refused. The orders can be ignored since he is not on the ground. Both over 60 years without serious management roles in the aviation and KLM want them to stick around? Thanks to Sebastian and MJ, if it was Naikuni he could have allowed them to sabotage KQ as he steals.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:jmbada wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ Kudos for the quick reaction by management Viboko for attrocious demand projectuons Winter couples up with Xmas. Who travels away from home over this season Ummh why did we not start with 3 flights per week? Because when you are starting out a cosmetic, electric, electrical or any other shop you stock every necessary item in hope of a possible sale and demand thereafter guides you on the restocking levels This is completely different. KQ already had flight data available for US bound passengers well before the launch. And if you are opening any shop and don't conduct basic research, eg on foot traffic, you are simply looking to create employment not make a profit. The article itself is self contadictory. They say that they had already decided to start out with a lower flight frequency as far back as October 28th, but announced daily flights at the time of launch. That quote is by business daily and not KQ management. In winter, the defrost activity on the plane leads to high fuel burn. Wacha turudi March 2019. Tafadhali please don't force us to fly half empty planes across the Atlantic This is the first positive editorial I have seen on KQ in the last 5 years https://www.businessdail...52070-x1g5p6/index.html
Where is the rest of the Editorial? This looks like it was written by a CSA... π€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈπ€·π½ββοΈ It matters little who wrote it, but the fact is that it's made it as a positive in the newspaper By the way, I want KQ to succeed. I am just stating that they seemed to have gotten their demand forecasting wrong. It would have been no skin off their teeth to start with a staggered schedule and then ramp up later. How could they have arrived at a staggered schedule?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:BD reports that KQ is cutting down on NBO-NYC flights during the winter season. Well... π€π€π€π€π€ For a firm in negative equity, making business moves that are not watertight in plausibility is quite reckless...worse if it was done for political expediency. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:Ericsson wrote:Robert ALAI, HSC Retweeted Robert ALAI, HSC
14 days ago I told you that KQ was going to cut down the flights, it has been done. I tell you something again, they sold the 777s for a song and now they are begging the buyers to lease two back. 787 is not as cost effective as the 777.
Is this true Maka Change of tact necessary to mitigate losses. Alai knows nothing on this. 787 is efficient than 777-200. The 777-200 sold were dated. All are being retired globally and replaced by 787-900. The KQ 777-300 are being returned next year by Turkish as planned. There is nothing to beg for. If KQ wants to terminate the sub-lease agreement then there is a clause in the contract which will be triggered. Actually I believe one is around... Being serviced. Issue is will they fill that bird? Great news. Oversize cargo upload i.e. China and even LHR as currently one plane can serve those 2 destinations. It can also be used to deal with the JFK cancellations. Non-commerciallly viable day to be canceled and transferred to B777 the following day rather than giving an option to be rerouted through Paris and Amsterdam. Again, this is enough evidence that Sebastian is very tactful and very commerciallly sensitive. I would go with LHR that flight is almost always full... Even getting the jump seat is an issue. I see.Even without the strategy team, your fat guy is a real manager. The exports and arrivals posted earlier herein from the UK justifies the use of a bigger equipment. Arrivals through ADD from LHR since the downgrade/ change of schedule must have gone up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Paul Wiegant.. Director Ground Services has called it a day... Jan bado ana issue orders remotely akingoja work permit am seeing him also resigning... Michael Joseph flew to Amsterdam and didn't have a good meeting with Elbers. Since that day, it's been systemic and systematic breakdown of KLM stalwarts Thanks @maka for the update. I hope Janβs permit is refused. The orders can be ignored since he is not on the ground. Both over 60 years without serious management roles in the aviation and KLM want them to stick around? Thanks to Sebastian and MJ, if it was Naikuni he could have allowed them to sabotage KQ as he steals. Jan has been given a 1 year permit to conclude his things... Kenya Airways has postponed the launch of its direct flight from Nairobiβs Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) to Somali capital Mogadishu until December 5. The national carrier was to launch its direct flight to Aden Adde International Airport, Mogadishu today in a move that was expected to boost trade with the Horn of Africa nation. However in a statement Thursday, Kenya Airways CEO Sebastian Mikosz said the airline would not fly to Somalia until "operational requirements beyond our control" are sorted out. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Paul Wiegant.. Director Ground Services has called it a day... Jan bado ana issue orders remotely akingoja work permit am seeing him also resigning... Michael Joseph flew to Amsterdam and didn't have a good meeting with Elbers. Since that day, it's been systemic and systematic breakdown of KLM stalwarts Thanks @maka for the update. I hope Janβs permit is refused. The orders can be ignored since he is not on the ground. Both over 60 years without serious management roles in the aviation and KLM want them to stick around? Thanks to Sebastian and MJ, if it was Naikuni he could have allowed them to sabotage KQ as he steals. Jan has been given a 1 year permit to conclude his things... Kenya Airways has postponed the launch of its direct flight from Nairobiβs Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) to Somali capital Mogadishu until December 5. The national carrier was to launch its direct flight to Aden Adde International Airport, Mogadishu today in a move that was expected to boost trade with the Horn of Africa nation. However in a statement Thursday, Kenya Airways CEO Sebastian Mikosz said the airline would not fly to Somalia until "operational requirements beyond our control" are sorted out. Thanks for the update. What about the Mogadishu bookings already made? I hope Janβs permit is non-renewable. Wish they could have declined him once and for all. Anyway, it sends a strong message to KLM.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Paul Wiegant.. Director Ground Services has called it a day... Jan bado ana issue orders remotely akingoja work permit am seeing him also resigning... Michael Joseph flew to Amsterdam and didn't have a good meeting with Elbers. Since that day, it's been systemic and systematic breakdown of KLM stalwarts Thanks @maka for the update. I hope Janβs permit is refused. The orders can be ignored since he is not on the ground. Both over 60 years without serious management roles in the aviation and KLM want them to stick around? Thanks to Sebastian and MJ, if it was Naikuni he could have allowed them to sabotage KQ as he steals. Jan has been given a 1 year permit to conclude his things... Kenya Airways has postponed the launch of its direct flight from Nairobiβs Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) to Somali capital Mogadishu until December 5. The national carrier was to launch its direct flight to Aden Adde International Airport, Mogadishu today in a move that was expected to boost trade with the Horn of Africa nation. However in a statement Thursday, Kenya Airways CEO Sebastian Mikosz said the airline would not fly to Somalia until "operational requirements beyond our control" are sorted out. Thanks for the update. What about the Mogadishu bookings already made? I hope Janβs permit is non-renewable. Wish they could have declined him once and for all. Anyway, it sends a strong message to KLM. 7 pax last time I checked... possunt quia posse videntur
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