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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#11261 Posted : Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:06:15 PM
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maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:

Thursday 15.11.2018



Pride of Africa should not be flying to Mogadishu. Violence against the government of solmalia and the occupying forces is the order of the day. KQ is making itself a target of islamists.


We have daily flights by Turkish to Mogadishu and 3 times a week by Ethiopian. Dont ask how i know

Remember Kenya has other underlying issues with some elements in the said destination


Remember in 2016 they tried to blow a Turkish airline plane using some briefcase bomb but didn't work. ET employs crazy security at Mogadishu Airport.


Who said KQ is flying to Mogadishu?smile

Hehe. Management are yet to confirm officially via media release but it's already spilled out https://en.halbeeg.com/2...mogadishu-by-next-week/

Meanwhile, Mike Maina Kamau top individual KQ shareholder, 8 year case against GoK in destruction of his 8 bedroom Spring Valley mansion to be heard next week at the Environmental Court


HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Spikes
#11262 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 9:12:26 AM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:

Thursday 15.11.2018



Pride of Africa should not be flying to Mogadishu. Violence against the government of solmalia and the occupying forces is the order of the day. KQ is making itself a target of islamists.


We have daily flights by Turkish to Mogadishu and 3 times a week by Ethiopian. Dont ask how i know

Remember Kenya has other underlying issues with some elements in the said destination


Remember in 2016 they tried to blow a Turkish airline plane using some briefcase bomb but didn't work. ET employs crazy security at Mogadishu Airport.


Who said KQ is flying to Mogadishu?smile

Hehe. Management are yet to confirm officially via media release but it's already spilled out https://en.halbeeg.com/2...mogadishu-by-next-week/

Meanwhile, Mike Maina Kamau top individual KQ shareholder, 8 year case against GoK in destruction of his 8 bedroom Spring Valley mansion to be heard next week at the Environmental Court



Thisis a classic lawsuit and I'm eagerly waiting to see the outcome. A real test of jurisprudence in Kenya.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
VituVingiSana
#11263 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 10:15:38 AM
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Using myStocks to chart KQ vs KK [1 Dec 2013 to 12 Nov 2018]

KK +103% + dividends (extra cream)
KQ -11%

Choices have consequences.

Burundi, Kenya fight over aircraft deployment
https://www.businessdail...946234-4847412-13g9j1r/
Were JJ's flights in addition to KQ's flights to BUJ or was JJ replacing KQ on this route?
These Burundians are cry-babies given it is a broke-ass country.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#11264 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 10:32:49 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:

Thursday 15.11.2018



Pride of Africa should not be flying to Mogadishu. Violence against the government of solmalia and the occupying forces is the order of the day. KQ is making itself a target of islamists.


We have daily flights by Turkish to Mogadishu and 3 times a week by Ethiopian. Dont ask how i know

Remember Kenya has other underlying issues with some elements in the said destination


Remember in 2016 they tried to blow a Turkish airline plane using some briefcase bomb but didn't work. ET employs crazy security at Mogadishu Airport.


Those boys explode bombs like they are popping corn. They killed 50 and injured 100 after friday prayers last week.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#11265 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 3:11:40 PM
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Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:

Thursday 15.11.2018



Pride of Africa should not be flying to Mogadishu. Violence against the government of solmalia and the occupying forces is the order of the day. KQ is making itself a target of islamists.


We have daily flights by Turkish to Mogadishu and 3 times a week by Ethiopian. Dont ask how i know

Remember Kenya has other underlying issues with some elements in the said destination


Remember in 2016 they tried to blow a Turkish airline plane using some briefcase bomb but didn't work. ET employs crazy security at Mogadishu Airport.


Those boys explode bombs like they are popping corn. They killed 50 and injured 100 after friday prayers last week.

Its sad really. Though the AMISOM security forces are not asleep in MGQ, especially at the fortified greenzone and the Aden Adde airport, Hargesia airport has never had an incident while Kismayo and Berbera landing strips are no go zones. Of note is that KQ in 2006 was undertaking daily flights to MGQ. Liwe liwalo. 15.11.2018 we go live.. Get rich or die trying

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#11266 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 8:10:00 PM
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This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele







HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
maka
#11267 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 9:42:04 PM
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obiero wrote:
This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele








Which profit? Net???
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#11268 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 9:55:59 PM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele








Which profit? Net???

Yes. We already saw the KQ operating profit recently.. So right now it's all about the bottom line. With the recent moves in Cape Town, Mauritius, Gabon, USA and now Somalia, the revenues can only face one way as there are now only two serious African carriers

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#11269 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:05:37 PM
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Trade data now being used by GoK, KQLC, MJ and SM in route optimization for the Pride of Africa

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#11270 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:11:40 PM
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KQ will rue the day that Ngunze sold off the prime slots slots at LHR.

Kenya's #1 export market.
Kenya's top 3 tourism source market.
Lots of diasporans in the London area.
LHR has excellent connections to North America and Europe. It rivals AMS and CDG.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#11271 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:14:06 PM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele








Which profit? Net???

Yes. We already saw the KQ operating profit recently.. So right now it's all about the bottom line. With the recent moves in Cape Town, Mauritius, Gabon, USA and now Somalia, the revenues can only face one way as there are now only two serious African carriers


Costs are off the roof... Hapa hakuna net profit in the foreseeable future... Maybe 2023.
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#11272 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:14:28 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ will rue the day that Ngunze sold off the prime slots slots at LHR.

Kenya's #1 export market.
Kenya's top 3 tourism source market.
Lots of diasporans in the London area.
LHR has excellent connections to North America and Europe. It rivals AMS and CDG.

Desperate times called for desperate measures.. He sold it at an unprecedented tidy sum in KQs favor. For now KLM hosts us https://www.businesstrav...-its-only-heathrow-slot/

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#11273 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:20:49 PM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele








Which profit? Net???

Yes. We already saw the KQ operating profit recently.. So right now it's all about the bottom line. With the recent moves in Cape Town, Mauritius, Gabon, USA and now Somalia, the revenues can only face one way as there are now only two serious African carriers


Costs are off the roof... Hapa hakuna net profit in the foreseeable future... Maybe 2023.

You lie at such a late hour? How ungodly! KQ costs have been on a quarter to quarter decline over the last 5 years and USA launch had to eat up some cash.. Nothing is free in this world, KQ is renting office space in 1835 Broadway suite 604 as its sales office. In the middle of New York city, of course it's expensive! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Spend money to make money

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#11274 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:32:17 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ will rue the day that Ngunze sold off the prime slots slots at LHR.

Kenya's #1 export market.
Kenya's top 3 tourism source market.
Lots of diasporans in the London area.
LHR has excellent connections to North America and Europe. It rivals AMS and CDG.

Desperate times called for desperate measures.. He sold it at an unprecedented tidy sum in KQs favor. For now KLM hosts us https://www.businesstrav...its-only-heathrow-slot/

"News has emerged that it was Kenya Airways who sold Oman Air its prized early morning slot at London Heathrow." >>> Of the $75mn from Oman Air, Ngunze paid himself $2mn over the next 2 years!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#11275 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:41:06 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ will rue the day that Ngunze sold off the prime slots slots at LHR.

Kenya's #1 export market.
Kenya's top 3 tourism source market.
Lots of diasporans in the London area.
LHR has excellent connections to North America and Europe. It rivals AMS and CDG.

Desperate times called for desperate measures.. He sold it at an unprecedented tidy sum in KQs favor. For now KLM hosts us https://www.businesstrav...its-only-heathrow-slot/

"News has emerged that it was Kenya Airways who sold Oman Air its prized early morning slot at London Heathrow." >>> Of the $75mn from Oman Air, Ngunze paid himself $2mn over the next 2 years!

It was a pay package.. There was a board of directors who could have rescinded but they saw it fit. Who are we to deny a man his salary

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Angelica _ann
#11276 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:44:38 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ will rue the day that Ngunze sold off the prime slots slots at LHR.

Kenya's #1 export market.
Kenya's top 3 tourism source market.
Lots of diasporans in the London area.
LHR has excellent connections to North America and Europe. It rivals AMS and CDG.

Desperate times called for desperate measures.. He sold it at an unprecedented tidy sum in KQs favor. For now KLM hosts us https://www.businesstrav...its-only-heathrow-slot/

"News has emerged that it was Kenya Airways who sold Oman Air its prized early morning slot at London Heathrow." >>> Of the $75mn from Oman Air, Ngunze paid himself $2mn over the next 2 years!

It was a pay package.. There was a board of directors who could have rescinded but they saw it fit. Who are we to deny a man his salary


That team was just looking for what to sell next, they would have sold even our own @maka by now.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#11277 Posted : Monday, November 12, 2018 11:50:24 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ will rue the day that Ngunze sold off the prime slots slots at LHR.

Kenya's #1 export market.
Kenya's top 3 tourism source market.
Lots of diasporans in the London area.
LHR has excellent connections to North America and Europe. It rivals AMS and CDG.

Desperate times called for desperate measures.. He sold it at an unprecedented tidy sum in KQs favor. For now KLM hosts us https://www.businesstrav...its-only-heathrow-slot/

"News has emerged that it was Kenya Airways who sold Oman Air its prized early morning slot at London Heathrow." >>> Of the $75mn from Oman Air, Ngunze paid himself $2mn over the next 2 years!

It was a pay package.. There was a board of directors who could have rescinded but they saw it fit. Who are we to deny a man his salary


That team was just looking for what to sell next, they would have sold even our own @maka by now.

How would that be a bad thing? KQ have introduced a Brand Warrior reward program for each staff that gets clients to fly with KQ but @maka instead keeps reminiscent of the dropped Buddy Pass.. I know @maka is a gentleman thus I wish him well but you can tell that a clique of workers at KQ are against KQs turnaround, which makes it difficult for top management to deliver. Very similar to what happened to Mourinho at his last Chelsea season

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
maka
#11278 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:39:49 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele








Which profit? Net???

Yes. We already saw the KQ operating profit recently.. So right now it's all about the bottom line. With the recent moves in Cape Town, Mauritius, Gabon, USA and now Somalia, the revenues can only face one way as there are now only two serious African carriers


Costs are off the roof... Hapa hakuna net profit in the foreseeable future... Maybe 2023.

You lie at such a late hour? How ungodly! KQ costs have been on a quarter to quarter decline over the last 5 years and USA launch had to eat up some cash.. Nothing is free in this world, KQ is renting office space in 1835 Broadway suite 604 as its sales office. In the middle of New York city, of course it's expensive! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Spend money to make money


If they make a profit I will buy you a Macallan Fine Oak 21 YO... Na buddy pass zinarudi... Whoop whoop...
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#11279 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:58:53 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
This ties in perfectly with the JFK route, high risk high returns. If KQ doesn't turn a profit by H1 2019, I will sell at whatever prevailing price.. Mungu mbele








Which profit? Net???

Yes. We already saw the KQ operating profit recently.. So right now it's all about the bottom line. With the recent moves in Cape Town, Mauritius, Gabon, USA and now Somalia, the revenues can only face one way as there are now only two serious African carriers


Costs are off the roof... Hapa hakuna net profit in the foreseeable future... Maybe 2023.

You lie at such a late hour? How ungodly! KQ costs have been on a quarter to quarter decline over the last 5 years and USA launch had to eat up some cash.. Nothing is free in this world, KQ is renting office space in 1835 Broadway suite 604 as its sales office. In the middle of New York city, of course it's expensive! Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Spend money to make money


If they make a profit I will buy you a Macallan Fine Oak 21 YO... Na buddy pass zinarudi... Whoop whoop...

I offer Glenfiddich 12 incase you overcome my prophecy of a profit by H1 2019

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#11280 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:54:51 AM
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obiero wrote:


Meanwhile, Mike Maina Kamau top individual KQ shareholder, 8 year case against GoK in destruction of his 8 bedroom Spring Valley mansion to be heard next week at the Environmental Court


Sad to see him lose both his house and investment. Both destroyed.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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