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obiero
#10381 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 5:48:18 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
[quote=obiero]Saudi Arabia hatuendi tena https://www.businessdail...1190-3936mgz/index.html[/quote]

Points to a bad state of affairs within KQ. Low pax count and lack of crew and equipment.


You never listen to me...


I do listen. They are trying to find headway to accomodate the JFK flight and new routes, I read somewhere that Israel is on the cards - Are you able to confirm this?


KQ is unable to compete effectively on that route

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#10382 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:26:57 PM
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At least competition in East Africa appears clueless about efficiencies of airline operation https://allafrica.com/stories/201807130353.html

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
maka
#10383 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 7:47:54 PM
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[quote=obiero]At least competition in East Africa appears clueless about efficiencies of airline operation https://allafrica.com/stories/201807130353.html[/quote]


That was a stupid emotional purchase...

possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#10384 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 8:00:44 PM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
At least competition in East Africa appears clueless about efficiencies of airline operation https://allafrica.com/stories/201807130353.html



That was a stupid emotional purchase...


One whole month of a 787 flying such short trips considering its fuel efficiency, is not a good idea at all.. They should have attached the pilots to KQ or FlyET if it's experience they seek

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
maka
#10385 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 8:02:42 PM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
At least competition in East Africa appears clueless about efficiencies of airline operation https://allafrica.com/stories/201807130353.html



That was a stupid emotional purchase...


One whole month of a 787 flying such short trips considering its fuel efficiency, is not a good idea at all.. They should have attached the pilots to KQ or FlyET if it's experience they seek



Magufuli is a dick head...
possunt quia posse videntur
jgithige
#10386 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 9:20:54 PM
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Now the DPP should as well raid KQ haraka iwezekanavyo some fellas need kulala Ka weekend kamoja ndani
"Blowing out someone else candle won't make yours shine brighter"-Anonymous
maka
#10387 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:00:56 PM
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jgithige wrote:
Now the DPP should as well raid KQ haraka iwezekanavyo some fellas need kulala Ka weekend kamoja ndani


Wengi wameenda if not all.... Let them raid their houses...
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VituVingiSana
#10388 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:32:46 PM
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maka wrote:
jgithige wrote:
Now the DPP should as well raid KQ haraka iwezekanavyo some fellas need kulala Ka weekend kamoja ndani

Wengi wameenda if not all.... Let them raid their houses...
Don't leave out those who were given freebies! Applause Applause Applause
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maka
#10389 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2018 10:52:33 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
jgithige wrote:
Now the DPP should as well raid KQ haraka iwezekanavyo some fellas need kulala Ka weekend kamoja ndani

Wengi wameenda if not all.... Let them raid their houses...
Don't leave out those who were given freebies! Applause Applause Applause


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I know where @Obiero stays il snitch on him...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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ArrestedDev
#10390 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2018 6:24:51 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
At least competition in East Africa appears clueless about efficiencies of airline operation https://allafrica.com/stories/201807130353.html



That was a stupid emotional purchase...


One whole month of a 787 flying such short trips considering its fuel efficiency, is not a good idea at all.. They should have attached the pilots to KQ or FlyET if it's experience they seek



Magufuli is a dick head...


@maka, this bulldozer is better than most of us including Naikuni. He is visionary but his people are letting him down. His people are same as our people. You remember Ngunze and William were leasing old Q400 leading to breakdowns and loss of revenue, inconveniencing pax and so many other things. JPM bought brand new Q400s and that’s when William and Ngunze woke up and placed orders. I mentioned it here.

Naikuni used to buy old 767 direct from Mojave desert. This led to high maintenance costs, breakdowns every now and then, loss of customers and other enormous opportunity costs to the Airline. The same thing with the 737- 300 purchased from KLM.

Even when our B787 were delivered, they were not meant to replace the B777s but due to lack of planning they ended up replacing them and even the last two with Oman Air had nowhere at all to be deployed to due to mismanaged Project Mawingu.

JPM has a good intention but the people in charge of Air Tanzania are the biggest dick heads including our own e.g. Naikuni and Co.
VituVingiSana
#10391 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2018 12:42:04 PM
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@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.
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ArrestedDev
#10392 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2018 1:24:30 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.

obiero
#10393 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:38:51 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
ArrestedDev
#10394 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:35:03 AM
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine


The road to recovery is treacherous and long. The probability of posting a profit by the end of this year is almost zero.

Air France is ramping up daily services to 5 per week up from I think 3 - @maka, correct me if I am wrong. This mean connections from Europe and North America on Air France and other Sky team partners KQ used to upload in Paris will no longer exist. KQ may be forced to reduce the Paris route weekly frequencies in the near future.

Lufthansa already increased daily frequencies to Nairobi. KLM is taking a firm grip of the management to influence decision making in their favour.

KQ is also trying to pursue a stupid strategy of targeting only the rich business and leisure travellers and abandoning the lower class of travellers. This is where Ethiopian derives their numbers from - bare economic fares which attracts customers in large numbers.

For instance, the Jeddah route was popular with pilgrims and the house maids working in Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian/Qatar/Oman Air will take advantage and upload all those originating/starting their journey in Nairobi and connect them to Jeddah via their respective hubs. I do not know how KQ arrived at the decision to terminate this route yet an E190 can operate efficiently even if the numbers are low.

obiero
#10395 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:24:35 PM
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Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine


The road to recovery is treacherous and long. The probability of posting a profit by the end of this year is almost zero.

Air France is ramping up daily services to 5 per week up from I think 3 - @maka, correct me if I am wrong. This mean connections from Europe and North America on Air France and other Sky team partners KQ used to upload in Paris will no longer exist. KQ may be forced to reduce the Paris route weekly frequencies in the near future.

Lufthansa already increased daily frequencies to Nairobi. KLM is taking a firm grip of the management to influence decision making in their favour.

KQ is also trying to pursue a stupid strategy of targeting only the rich business and leisure travellers and abandoning the lower class of travellers. This is where Ethiopian derives their numbers from - bare economic fares which attracts customers in large numbers.

For instance, the Jeddah route was popular with pilgrims and the house maids working in Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian/Qatar/Oman Air will take advantage and upload all those originating/starting their journey in Nairobi and connect them to Jeddah via their respective hubs. I do not know how KQ arrived at the decision to terminate this route yet an E190 can operate efficiently even if the numbers are low.


Half year results will be out in two weeks time so we can review

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#10396 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:28:54 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine


The road to recovery is treacherous and long. The probability of posting a profit by the end of this year is almost zero.

Air France is ramping up daily services to 5 per week up from I think 3 - @maka, correct me if I am wrong. This mean connections from Europe and North America on Air France and other Sky team partners KQ used to upload in Paris will no longer exist. KQ may be forced to reduce the Paris route weekly frequencies in the near future.

Lufthansa already increased daily frequencies to Nairobi. KLM is taking a firm grip of the management to influence decision making in their favour.

KQ is also trying to pursue a stupid strategy of targeting only the rich business and leisure travellers and abandoning the lower class of travellers. This is where Ethiopian derives their numbers from - bare economic fares which attracts customers in large numbers.

For instance, the Jeddah route was popular with pilgrims and the house maids working in Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian/Qatar/Oman Air will take advantage and upload all those originating/starting their journey in Nairobi and connect them to Jeddah via their respective hubs. I do not know how KQ arrived at the decision to terminate this route yet an E190 can operate efficiently even if the numbers are low.



And then they want to takeover management of JKIA,KQ better concentrate on strenthening it's key routes which are now under threat from Air France,KLM and Lufthansa
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ArrestedDev
#10397 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:19:00 PM
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Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine


The road to recovery is treacherous and long. The probability of posting a profit by the end of this year is almost zero.

Air France is ramping up daily services to 5 per week up from I think 3 - @maka, correct me if I am wrong. This mean connections from Europe and North America on Air France and other Sky team partners KQ used to upload in Paris will no longer exist. KQ may be forced to reduce the Paris route weekly frequencies in the near future.

Lufthansa already increased daily frequencies to Nairobi. KLM is taking a firm grip of the management to influence decision making in their favour.

KQ is also trying to pursue a stupid strategy of targeting only the rich business and leisure travellers and abandoning the lower class of travellers. This is where Ethiopian derives their numbers from - bare economic fares which attracts customers in large numbers.

For instance, the Jeddah route was popular with pilgrims and the house maids working in Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian/Qatar/Oman Air will take advantage and upload all those originating/starting their journey in Nairobi and connect them to Jeddah via their respective hubs. I do not know how KQ arrived at the decision to terminate this route yet an E190 can operate efficiently even if the numbers are low.


Half year results will be out in two weeks time so we can review


Most likely it is still a loss. There might be an increase in the operating profit but the interest expense will wipe everything out resulting in a net loss position.
obiero
#10398 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:05:57 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,475
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine


The road to recovery is treacherous and long. The probability of posting a profit by the end of this year is almost zero.

Air France is ramping up daily services to 5 per week up from I think 3 - @maka, correct me if I am wrong. This mean connections from Europe and North America on Air France and other Sky team partners KQ used to upload in Paris will no longer exist. KQ may be forced to reduce the Paris route weekly frequencies in the near future.

Lufthansa already increased daily frequencies to Nairobi. KLM is taking a firm grip of the management to influence decision making in their favour.

KQ is also trying to pursue a stupid strategy of targeting only the rich business and leisure travellers and abandoning the lower class of travellers. This is where Ethiopian derives their numbers from - bare economic fares which attracts customers in large numbers.

For instance, the Jeddah route was popular with pilgrims and the house maids working in Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian/Qatar/Oman Air will take advantage and upload all those originating/starting their journey in Nairobi and connect them to Jeddah via their respective hubs. I do not know how KQ arrived at the decision to terminate this route yet an E190 can operate efficiently even if the numbers are low.


Half year results will be out in two weeks time so we can review


Most likely it is still a loss. There might be an increase in the operating profit but the interest expense will wipe everything out resulting in a net loss position.

Remember over 70B is off the balances as debt converted to equity from November last year.. Coupled with longer tenure for the remaining debt balances

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
ArrestedDev
#10399 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:59:45 AM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@ArrestedDev

Delta bought very many "old" aircraft (717s and MD-90s) about 4-5 years ago but refurbished them and maintained them well. The logic was great i.e. the cost of financing the old planes was much lower than the additional cost of fuel and maintenance.

When the fuel prices fell, the savings (& profits) grew.

Naikuni, Mbugua and friends were crooks first and foremost.

https://worldairlinenews...ircraft-bubble-comment/

"Delta looks at the entire cost of jet – the purchase price, the maintenance costs, fuel efficiency and other factors – before making decisions. Often, used aircraft make the most economic sense for the airline."

"And thanks to Delta’s TechOps aviation maintenance team, used planes can be maintained and retrofitted with entirely new interiors, providing a superior customer experience even though the jet may be a few years old."

"Still, Delta will buy new when it makes sense. For example, the airline recently ordered 25 fuel-efficient Airbus A350-900s to fly primarily long-haul trans-Pacific routes starting in 2017."

"Less money is tied up in expensive new jets, and instead can be invested in airport facilities, operational performance, new technology and on-board improvements to enhance the customer experience."

KQ may not be in a position to do what Delta does but if executed well, a partial fleet of old aircraft can work well.
Delta does have the advantage of a strong TechOps and Maintenance team + large number of aircraft to cannibalize for spares as well as replace a "misbehaving" aircraft.


Not in this day and age. You quoted this previously and I replied.

Naikuni bungled KQ big time. It will take time to turn it around once again.


It will turn around sooner than you imagine


The road to recovery is treacherous and long. The probability of posting a profit by the end of this year is almost zero.

Air France is ramping up daily services to 5 per week up from I think 3 - @maka, correct me if I am wrong. This mean connections from Europe and North America on Air France and other Sky team partners KQ used to upload in Paris will no longer exist. KQ may be forced to reduce the Paris route weekly frequencies in the near future.

Lufthansa already increased daily frequencies to Nairobi. KLM is taking a firm grip of the management to influence decision making in their favour.

KQ is also trying to pursue a stupid strategy of targeting only the rich business and leisure travellers and abandoning the lower class of travellers. This is where Ethiopian derives their numbers from - bare economic fares which attracts customers in large numbers.

For instance, the Jeddah route was popular with pilgrims and the house maids working in Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian/Qatar/Oman Air will take advantage and upload all those originating/starting their journey in Nairobi and connect them to Jeddah via their respective hubs. I do not know how KQ arrived at the decision to terminate this route yet an E190 can operate efficiently even if the numbers are low.


Half year results will be out in two weeks time so we can review


Most likely it is still a loss. There might be an increase in the operating profit but the interest expense will wipe everything out resulting in a net loss position.

Remember over 70B is off the balances as debt converted to equity from November last year.. Coupled with longer tenure for the remaining debt balances


For your information, KQ is still highly leveraged. There is a very huge debt in the books. I also believe the local banks have since advanced further loans to KQ.

Just be optimistic but the road to recovery is long. Last December KQ failed to meet some loan commitments.
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