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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Word is out. The KAA and KQ merger could see the share trade at highs of up to KES 30 per share, with definite return to profitability by end year through basic accounting.. MJ using all his wit to ensure closure of the deal before November 2018. Open Offer to proceed in Q1 2019 at unprecedented discount. The mother of all rallies is on the horizon. Thank me later Impossible... Hi there party pooper 😁 Open offer hamna. KQLC won't agree Tukutane hapa Q1 2019, hii kitu haihusu KQLC and it is actually to their benefit for the share to be tradable.. The KQ share has not been trading for over 9 months now. Incase the majority owners do not embrace the Open Offer, KQ share will remain depressed adinfinitum Why would KQLC want their stake (30%?) diluted? Why would KQLC want others to pay LESS than what they did for their shares in KQ? [It’s like ARM shares to non-strategic investors who add no value at 3/- when I paid 3.70 ... ] KQ shares are tradable. I read that they even sold some. I think I&M was one of the beneficiaries of the sale of KQ Shares via KQLC. Anyway, good luck! I am also in a turnaround penny stock aka ARM Nothing like trading going on with the KQ stock since restructuring.. Danganya toto GoK and KQLC are happy with the current situation. KQLC at the current price or even at 12 can offload their stake to a strategic investor and they would have recovered their money plus interest Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Word is out. The KAA and KQ merger could see the share trade at highs of up to KES 30 per share, with definite return to profitability by end year through basic accounting.. MJ using all his wit to ensure closure of the deal before November 2018. Open Offer to proceed in Q1 2019 at unprecedented discount. The mother of all rallies is on the horizon. Thank me later Impossible... Hi there party pooper 😁 Open offer hamna. KQLC won't agree Tukutane hapa Q1 2019, hii kitu haihusu KQLC and it is actually to their benefit for the share to be tradable.. The KQ share has not been trading for over 9 months now. Incase the majority owners do not embrace the Open Offer, KQ share will remain depressed adinfinitum Why would KQLC want their stake (30%?) diluted? Why would KQLC want others to pay LESS than what they did for their shares in KQ? [It’s like ARM shares to non-strategic investors who add no value at 3/- when I paid 3.70 ... ] KQ shares are tradable. I read that they even sold some. I think I&M was one of the beneficiaries of the sale of KQ Shares via KQLC. Anyway, good luck! I am also in a turnaround penny stock aka ARM Nothing like trading going on with the KQ stock since restructuring.. Danganya toto GoK and KQLC are happy with the current situation. KQLC at the current price or even at 12 can offload their stake to a strategic investor and they would have recovered their money plus interest It will be difficult to get such an opportunity without accompanying market movement.. So a strategic buyer gets in at KES 10.7 and then? Even MJ last week said that he would prefer that the share was not at the NSE! Check out from 1:04 https://youtu.be/25hHapFaGoY
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Jibabe wrote:Must have been appointed to acting position last November by CEO.
Have the the “Consultants” left or they been given work permits...... for precisely what and at what cost.Or they are ones taking the vacated positions.
Hope another McKinsey is not cooking It's not.. Be easy @maka, I thought the Polish consultants already left Kenya? One of the reasons the head of finance and legal had to leave is because of the Mckinsey Contract. They slept on the job, such a contract which did not take into consideration the interest of the Company should not have been executed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:[quote=obiero]Word is out. The KAA and KQ merger could see the share trade at highs of up to KES 30 per share, with definite return to profitability by end year through basic accounting.. MJ using all his wit to ensure closure of the deal before November 2018. Open Offer to proceed in Q1 2019 at unprecedented discount. The mother of all rallies is on the horizon. Thank me later Impossible... Hi there party pooper 😁 Open offer hamna. KQLC won't agree Tukutane hapa Q1 2019, hii kitu haihusu KQLC and it is actually to their benefit for the share to be tradable.. The KQ share has not been trading for over 9 months now. Incase the majority owners do not embrace the Open Offer, KQ share will remain depressed adinfinitum Why would KQLC want their stake (30%?) diluted? Why would KQLC want others to pay LESS than what they did for their shares in KQ? [It’s like ARM shares to non-strategic investors who add no value at 3/- when I paid 3.70 ... ] KQ shares are tradable. I read that they even sold some. I think I&M was one of the beneficiaries of the sale of KQ Shares via KQLC. Anyway, good luck! I am also in a turnaround penny stock aka ARM Nothing like trading going on with the KQ stock since restructuring.. Danganya toto GoK and KQLC are happy with the current situation. KQLC at the current price or even at 12 can offload their stake to a strategic investor and they would have recovered their money plus interest It will be difficult to get such an opportunity without accompanying market movement.. So a strategic buyer gets in at KES 10.7 and then? Even MJ last week said that he would prefer that the share was not at the NSE! Check out from 1:04 https://youtu.be/25hHapFaGoY[/quote] That means MJ doesn't want the likes of you owning shares in kq at the NSE. According to him KQ should be GOK, KQLC and KLM Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Word is out. The KAA and KQ merger could see the share trade at highs of up to KES 30 per share, with definite return to profitability by end year through basic accounting.. MJ using all his wit to ensure closure of the deal before November 2018. Open Offer to proceed in Q1 2019 at unprecedented discount. The mother of all rallies is on the horizon. Thank me later Impossible... Hi there party pooper 😁 Open offer hamna. KQLC won't agree Tukutane hapa Q1 2019, hii kitu haihusu KQLC and it is actually to their benefit for the share to be tradable.. The KQ share has not been trading for over 9 months now. Incase the majority owners do not embrace the Open Offer, KQ share will remain depressed adinfinitum Why would KQLC want their stake (30%?) diluted? Why would KQLC want others to pay LESS than what they did for their shares in KQ? [It’s like ARM shares to non-strategic investors who add no value at 3/- when I paid 3.70 ... ] KQ shares are tradable. I read that they even sold some. I think I&M was one of the beneficiaries of the sale of KQ Shares via KQLC. Anyway, good luck! I am also in a turnaround penny stock aka ARM Nothing like trading going on with the KQ stock since restructuring.. Danganya toto GoK and KQLC are happy with the current situation. KQLC at the current price or even at 12 can offload their stake to a strategic investor and they would have recovered their money plus interest It will be difficult to get such an opportunity without accompanying market movement.. So a strategic buyer gets in at KES 10.7 and then? Even MJ last week said that he would prefer that the share was not at the NSE! Check out from 1:04 https://youtu.be/25hHapFaGoY
That means MJ doesn't want the likes of you owning shares in kq at the NSE. According to him KQ should be GOK, KQLC and KLM Quite strange that he actually said it and for emphasis repeated twice that he wanted KLM to hold significant shareholding
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Jibabe wrote:Must have been appointed to acting position last November by CEO.
Have the the “Consultants” left or they been given work permits...... for precisely what and at what cost.Or they are ones taking the vacated positions.
Hope another McKinsey is not cooking It's not.. Be easy @maka, I thought the Polish consultants already left Kenya? One of the reasons the head of finance and legal had to leave is because of the Mckinsey Contract. They slept on the job, such a contract which did not take into consideration the interest of the Company should not have been executed. Everybody but the shareholders made money off KQ Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Word is out. The KAA and KQ merger could see the share trade at highs of up to KES 30 per share, with definite return to profitability by end year through basic accounting.. MJ using all his wit to ensure closure of the deal before November 2018. Open Offer to proceed in Q1 2019 at unprecedented discount. The mother of all rallies is on the horizon. Thank me later Impossible... Hi there party pooper 😁 Open offer hamna. KQLC won't agree Tukutane hapa Q1 2019, hii kitu haihusu KQLC and it is actually to their benefit for the share to be tradable.. The KQ share has not been trading for over 9 months now. Incase the majority owners do not embrace the Open Offer, KQ share will remain depressed adinfinitum Why would KQLC want their stake (30%?) diluted? Why would KQLC want others to pay LESS than what they did for their shares in KQ? [It’s like ARM shares to non-strategic investors who add no value at 3/- when I paid 3.70 ... ] KQ shares are tradable. I read that they even sold some. I think I&M was one of the beneficiaries of the sale of KQ Shares via KQLC. Anyway, good luck! I am also in a turnaround penny stock aka ARM Nothing like trading going on with the KQ stock since restructuring.. Danganya toto GoK and KQLC are happy with the current situation. KQLC at the current price or even at 12 can offload their stake to a strategic investor and they would have recovered their money plus interest It will be difficult to get such an opportunity without accompanying market movement.. So a strategic buyer gets in at KES 10.7 and then? Even MJ last week said that he would prefer that the share was not at the NSE! Check out from 1:04 https://youtu.be/25hHapFaGoY That means MJ doesn't want the likes of you owning shares in kq at the NSE. According to him KQ should be GOK, KQLC and KLM Who wants to deal with Minority Shareholders who can’t contribute meaningfully to a company yet cost a lot in terms of governance i.e. AGM, goodies, etc You made a good point which some refuse to accept that KQLC has no reason to dilute their shareholding by selling shares to non-strategic investors at less than 10/-. “Market Movements” are irrelevant to Strategic Investors. They look at the NAV, growth, strategic fit, etc. I am in ARM and I concede a Strategic Investor would be more interested in debt, assets, licenses, plants, obligations, liabilities, etc rather than what the share trades at. Good luck to Minority Shareholders in KQ. I hope KQ does well and KQLC can sell its shares at a profit! And individual banks get paid their loans! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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In the spirit of wazua of informing, i bring to your attention a recent interview by KQ CEO....This guy Mikosz introduces a new way of thinking(yaani hiyo ya GDP) https://www.cnbcafrica.com/videos/2018/07/03/kenya-airways-sebastian-mikosz-outlines-africa-expansion-plans/Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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This is the full version of what @Obiero posted. Easy to tell the difference between him and Ngunze. He clearly indicates he is going to reverse poor decisions taken in the recent past. I am very happy he is taking back the subleased aircrafts and already committed that there is no further sale of assets.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:This is the full version of what @Obiero posted. Easy to tell the difference between him and Ngunze. He clearly indicates he is going to reverse poor decisions taken in the recent past. I am very happy he is taking back the subleased aircrafts and already committed that there is no further sale of assets. He also states that the turnaround didn't start with him.. Tusubiri tie up ya KAA. KES 30 is likely to print and minority shareholders are likely to be bought off based on the board and management open sentiments. At KES 25, I exit
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:This is the full version of what @Obiero posted. Easy to tell the difference between him and Ngunze. He clearly indicates he is going to reverse poor decisions taken in the recent past. I am very happy he is taking back the subleased aircrafts and already committed that there is no further sale of assets. He also states that the turnaround didn't start with him.. Tusubiri tie up ya KAA. KES 30 is likely to print and minority shareholders are likely to be bought off based on the board and management open sentiments. At KES 25, I exit All the best Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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@Obiero you are too optimistic and loyal to a fault.
I dont see any light at the end of the tunnel that we as minority shareholders are in....,
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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Stiffler wrote:@Obiero you are too optimistic and loyal to a fault.
I dont see any light at the end of the tunnel that we as minority shareholders are in.... @Stiffler, unlike you, @Obiero was tossed goodies galore by Ngunze. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:This is the full version of what @Obiero posted. Easy to tell the difference between him and Ngunze. He clearly indicates he is going to reverse poor decisions taken in the recent past. I am very happy he is taking back the subleased aircrafts and already committed that there is no further sale of assets. He also states that the turnaround didn't start with him.. Tusubiri tie up ya KAA. KES 30 is likely to print and minority shareholders are likely to be bought off based on the board and management open sentiments. At KES 25, I exit Zero sum game after reverberating rumours of turnaround all this long... John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Stiffler wrote:@Obiero you are too optimistic and loyal to a fault.
I dont see any light at the end of the tunnel that we as minority shareholders are in.... @Stiffler, unlike you, @Obiero was tossed goodies galore by Ngunze. Usiniharibie jina bwana. All payments were above board
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Saudi Arabia hatuendi tena https://www.businessdail...61190-3936mgz/index.html
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=obiero]Saudi Arabia hatuendi tena https://www.businessdail...1190-3936mgz/index.html[/quote] Points to a bad state of affairs within KQ. Low pax count and lack of crew and equipment.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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You never listen to me... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/25/2009 Posts: 41
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Yes indeed behind walls things are thick .......
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:You never listen to me... I do listen. They are trying to find headway to accomodate the JFK flight and new routes, I read somewhere that Israel is on the cards - Are you able to confirm this?
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