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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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@obiero continues to hold 80,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 24.20. The Open Offer better bail me out of the 52% investment loss, underwater currents that are pushing me further from the shore. The current KQ share price is unbelievably low post-restructure.. Actually its currently trading at circa KES 2.70.. While GOK, KQLC and KLM hold their stake at entry level of KES 8.52.. Equilibrium will be achieved via the Open Offer which I am informed by the exchange bar shall likely be on a ratio of 3:1 with a striking price of KES 5. Assuming that I shall be able to defend my full allocation at KES 1,200,000 my revised ABP shall then be circa KES 9.80.. My biggest gamble in life so far
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 80,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 24.20. The Open Offer better bail me out of the 52% investment loss, underwater currents that are pushing me further from the shore. The current KQ share price is unbelievably low post-restructure.. Actually its currently trading at circa KES 2.70.. While GOK, KQLC and KLM hold their stake at entry level of KES 8.52.. Equilibrium will be achieved via the Open Offer which I am informed by the exchange bar shall likely be on a ratio of 3:1 with a striking price of KES 5. Assuming that I shall be able to defend my full allocation at KES 1,200,000 my revised ABP shall then be circa KES 9.80.. My biggest gamble in life so far My broda, Sell all yo KQ at market, go buy ARMCEMENT and then sit and wait for 10 years. Thank me later
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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xxxxx wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 80,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 24.20. The Open Offer better bail me out of the 52% investment loss, underwater currents that are pushing me further from the shore. The current KQ share price is unbelievably low post-restructure.. Actually its currently trading at circa KES 2.70.. While GOK, KQLC and KLM hold their stake at entry level of KES 8.52.. Equilibrium will be achieved via the Open Offer which I am informed by the exchange bar shall likely be on a ratio of 3:1 with a striking price of KES 5. Assuming that I shall be able to defend my full allocation at KES 1,200,000 my revised ABP shall then be circa KES 9.80.. My biggest gamble in life so far My broda, Sell all yo KQ at market, go buy ARMCEMENT and then sit and wait for 10 years. Thank me later 10 years jeez Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/27/2018 Posts: 56 Location: Cambrian Dc
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obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 80,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 24.20. The Open Offer better bail me out of the 52% investment loss, underwater currents that are pushing me further from the shore. The current KQ share price is unbelievably low post-restructure.. Actually its currently trading at circa KES 2.70.. While GOK, KQLC and KLM hold their stake at entry level of KES 8.52.. Equilibrium will be achieved via the Open Offer which I am informed by the exchange bar shall likely be on a ratio of 3:1 with a striking price of KES 5. Assuming that I shall be able to defend my full allocation at KES 1,200,000 my revised ABP shall then be circa KES 9.80.. My biggest gamble in life so far Stay strong,brother. My entry target of 10 bob imefika and I will start accumulating for the last trip to the open offer wave. By August we will either be on a first name basis with the DT dobie MD or we will be jumping out with a +30% gain, which is a pretty good offering in a downward trending market. Infide vade!! Deus vult! If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky that would be like the splendour of the mighty one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VyaBureSiachi wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 80,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 24.20. The Open Offer better bail me out of the 52% investment loss, underwater currents that are pushing me further from the shore. The current KQ share price is unbelievably low post-restructure.. Actually its currently trading at circa KES 2.70.. While GOK, KQLC and KLM hold their stake at entry level of KES 8.52.. Equilibrium will be achieved via the Open Offer which I am informed by the exchange bar shall likely be on a ratio of 3:1 with a striking price of KES 5. Assuming that I shall be able to defend my full allocation at KES 1,200,000 my revised ABP shall then be circa KES 9.80.. My biggest gamble in life so far Stay strong,brother. My entry target of 10 bob imefika and I will start accumulating for the last trip to the open offer wave. By August we will either be on a first name basis with the DT dobie MD or we will be jumping out with a +30% gain, which is a pretty good offering in a downward trending market. Infide vade!! Deus vult! Veni vedi veci!
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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 Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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@pesanane cheers
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos 
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Truth is he doesn't know the questions despite them being asked. He most definitely has no answer. Love is blind..ama KW 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Shindwe
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Oh. It should be zero? but apparently the last time I checked KQ was trading at KES 10.5. Far from zero
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Oh. It should be zero? but apparently the last time I checked KQ was trading at KES 10.5. Far from zero
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Oh. It should be zero? but apparently the last time I checked KQ was trading at KES 10.5. Far from zero So what was KQ's NAV/share before the Bailout by GoK and KQLC? And ARM is trading at 3/- and was much a month ago. Uchumi and NBK are in similar straits. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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