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Pierce		#81 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 12:11:35 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/16/2009 Posts: 1,464		Good news though, perfomance for year to date, (even post WC) is really good.Nuff said!
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VituVingiSana		#82 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 12:57:58 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi		PKoli wrote: 2012 wrote: This KQ is messing me up on the fantasy mkt. Hata vvs has overtaken me. Lucky you, it is only on your fantasy, I have it in the real market! LOL... me too... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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2012		#83 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 1:08:32 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: PKoli wrote: 2012 wrote: This KQ is messing me up on the fantasy mkt. Hata vvs has overtaken me. Lucky you, it is only on your fantasy, I have it in the real market! LOL... me too... Not to worry I think all factors point to KQ closing it's year well. BBI will solve it :)
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Gordon Gekko		#84 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 1:42:22 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760		I am also in this quagmatic zug zug for real and I honestly don't see a huge upsurge in earnings this year. I'm considering increased lease costs for the new craft (Embraers and those/that 737 from KLM), more routes mean increased fixed costs, the new routes will take a while to develop.....
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VituVingiSana		#85 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 2:15:30 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi		Gordon Gekko wrote: I am also in this quagmatic zug zug for real and I honestly don't see a huge upsurge in earnings this year. I'm considering increased lease costs for the new craft (Embraers and those/that 737 from KLM), more routes mean increased fixed costs, the new routes will take a while to develop..... On this I disagree... - The 737-300 leased from KLM is to take care of demand. See 1Q Ops Stats. They 'lost' passengers coz of reduced flights coz of unavailability of planes. - The Embraers are for domestic + regional traffic. An interesting tidbit is that 'premium' traffic is picking up such that KQ added premium seating to 1 Embraer from an all-economy configuration - The PLFs were quite decent in 1Q & it seems that traffic worldwide has increased. 2Q will also see numbers from WC 2010 as well as increased fares due to the 'high season' from Europe. The major spanner in the works remains JKIA... The traffic is KRAZY... Just getting in & out of the airport... If I have 3 or more people in my party going NBO-Mombasa & 'time' is not an issue... I wud rather go by road! I wud leave early in the morning coz it is cool & less traffic on the way... Avoids the bother to take a cab to JKIA, fly to MIA then take a cab to Mombasa town or wherever I am going! For a 9am flight, I have to leave at 7am!!! Why? Traffic + 1 hour check-in at JKIA... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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the deal		#86 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 3:25:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery		TN promised to keep the operational costs down...with the underlining business improving on every metric its a just a matter of time patient shareholders get rewarded...
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PKoli		#87 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 3:40:53 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587		the deal wrote: TN promised to keep the operational costs down...with the underlining business improving on every metric its a just a matter of time patient shareholders get rewarded... it better be. I moved of some cfc and I might not get value
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Pierce		#88 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 3:42:50 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/16/2009 Posts: 1,464		Do I buy more KQ?
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Pierce		#89 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 3:45:40 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/16/2009 Posts: 1,464		Do I buy more KQ?
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PKoli		#90 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 3:50:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587		Pierce wrote: Do I buy more KQ? If you have cash and want dividends
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qw25041985		#91 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 4:03:35 PM
Rank: User Joined: 5/9/2010 Posts: 1,418 Location: Nai		Buy fundermentaly sound companies. Including KQ. Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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ProverB		#92 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:25:01 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander		Pierce wrote: Do I buy more KQ? Compared to what? for a portfolio with 5 counters..KQ is unlikely to make the cut..a bigger portfolio..may be.. personally..my mind has not been changed since i first put up this thread.. declining margins are NOT a mark of prudent investing..but that is me.. for share traders..relying basically on technicals..kq is nice to play with.. since this thread started it dropped from 58 to 46 went up again n is on way down to about 44 then up again blah blah blah..if you want to play..play.. Other reasons to buy is that its unique share..yaani no other airline..doing better than other airlines..blah blah blah.. Fact our market is so small means the share price trend will reflect whole market trend..rise with everything..fall wih everything.. so much story..buy or not..its up to you. but me..opportunity cost matters.. I'd rather 8 safcom shares to 1 KQ ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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the deal		#93 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:30:23 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery		I think i'm going to do a thread on why KQ is a buy...
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ProverB		#94 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:39:49 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander		the deal wrote: I think i'm going to do a thread on why KQ is a buy... Cool. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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youcan'tstopusnow		#95 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:46:51 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		Pierce wrote: Do I buy more KQ? What's your average buy? GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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The Merchant		#96 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:19:57 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/24/2010 Posts: 846 Location: KENYA		KQ now at 34. This thread is now very interesting to read....
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mwanahisa		#97 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:34:21 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438		It even traded at 33 today. We might soon get our wish for a Sub 30 price. I bet at that price the rights issue will be quietly withdrawn, and I hope to be in, awaiting the next big bull market on the NSE in 2013!!!
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ProverB		#98 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:43:16 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander		..7 months later..and if i put up this thread anew i would still stand by it... Kenya Airways...why ignore.. though i'd adjust for speculative purposes..to allow a buy now.. Bwana Deal..where art thou?... n ofcourse...QW ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Iborian		#99 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:25:53 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 4/17/2009 Posts: 194		Flash Forward - 5th June 2014. Kenya Airways have just released their results for the year ended 31st March 2014. EPS grew to an all time high of Kshs 12.92. Dividend raised to Kshs 3.50, following the exit of the former CEO Titus Naikuni last year. Share price has now surged to all time high of Kshs 160. Investors have once again fallen in love with the stock. Oh, did I just mention, I bought the share 3 years ago at the beaten down price of Kshs 33. This is what dreams are made of.
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ProverB		#100 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:56:34 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander		Iborian wrote: Flash Forward - 5th June 2014. Kenya Airways have just released their results for the year ended 31st March 2014. EPS grew to an all time high of Kshs 12.92. Dividend raised to Kshs 3.50, following the exit of the former CEO Titus Naikuni last year. Share price has now surged to all time high of Kshs 160. Investors have once again fallen in love with the stock. Oh, did I just mention, I bought the share 3 years ago at the beaten down price of Kshs 33. This is what dreams are made of. Nice dream..i didn't buy before..when you bought..and it went full cycle to where it is now.. 33 bob... if i buy it now.. the difference between u and i is "time value for money" 33 bob in my pocket over the last 3 years has done so much for me compared to you handsome return of 4 bob in dividends ove same period.. unless of course u traded the share over the period to take in capital gains..on which i'd admire you of course.. but i doubt that. ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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