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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Stiffler wrote:VyaBureSiachi wrote:obiero wrote:I look at some of the comments on this thread and wonder what people will say when the Open Offer is announced. There was the first chance for all and sundry to make a quick kill during restructure when some folks here swore that KQ will touch KES 2.10 but it did not, rather it went up to KES 18.75 within seven days of relisting!!! Now there will be clueless others waiting for KQ to dip sub Open Offer price projected at KES 5.00 by the exchange bar, but I could bet you my entire earthly belongings that these persons will be shocked to see KES 21 or higher print in the run up to book closure. Thank me later/soon Ile pesa tutavuna hapa tutahitaji magunia kubeba. Let's keep amassing more shares as the delay of the open offer knocks out more holders I thought the open Offer would be for the Existing Shareholders at Consolidation. Hence Selling/buying more shares now doesn't not affect the Shares one is entitled to at Open Offer That's an inaccurate observation. There has to be a book closure date in the interest of fairness to all existing, meaning current shareholders.. Further, a book closure date would allow willing persons to take on the risk of shareholding from those who would find the Open Offer terms unacceptable or who may lack liquidity to defend their stake. It's the only sure way to guarantee success of the Open Offer
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Today marks ground zero.. The last day of KQ's suspension. Wednesday we get to learn what the PJT Partners and KQ long-term shareholders are made of.. The exchange bar suspects a massive hold-out coupled with high ask price.. The rally of a lifetime awaits the bold What if market markers [MMs] shake this counter in early hours of trading triggering sell off from Wanjiku who's likely to burn her fingers? And if the trading scare lasts as the price keeps scaling down to intolerable levels will you sell? Wednesday will mark the greatest test of the Exchange Bar info dissemination. Sit tight! Only a mad investor would sell below KES 8.52.. Prior to determining the Open Offer calculus, KES 21 is fair value for existing shareholders, noting GoK, KLM and KQ Lenders Co Ltd shall sit out the Open Offer.. Expect very little trading on KQ shares but at an increasing price until the Open Offer circular is released early next month Meanwhile HAL has gained 80% from the lows set 5 months ago. Artificial gains, backed by abscense of volume Volumes have been massive. Watch and learn ! Still watching.. Still learning.. Though the 5 month wait thus far for the Open Offer has been extremely disappointing from KQ management
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Let me leave this here https://www.businessdail...539892-xpx1sk/index.html
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/22/2015 Posts: 224 Location: Mombasa, Kenya
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[quote=obiero]Let me leave this here https://www.businessdail...39892-xpx1sk/index.html[/quote] this will test KQ's agility. smaller players in the industry seem to be taking the lead in emerging routes. I bet the second runway will bring in even stiffer competition for international travellers Start!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Metch wrote:this will test KQ's agility. smaller players in the industry seem to be taking the lead in emerging routes. I bet the second runway will bring in even stiffer competition for international travellers KQ is the best placed airline to take advantage of the second runway, home hub and all..
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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Nice to see folks flying other airlines also using NBO as a hub. It makes NBO/JKIA more prominent. I hope that also translates to more pax for KQ. I like competition since it reduces the cost for pax as well as better service. The quality of (economy) seats on Etihad and Qatar is commendable for flights to Europe. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Nice to see folks flying other airlines also using NBO as a hub. It makes NBO/JKIA more prominent. I hope that also translates to more pax for KQ. I like competition since it reduces the cost for pax as well as better service. The quality of (economy) seats on Etihad and Qatar is commendable for flights to Europe. True. Along with the Africa interconnectivity that KQ offers to these travelers. They can be brought in from Europe/Asia/Americas by any airline but across Africa, KQ is king! Not even SAA or Ethiopian have a broader brochure of African destinations. Ngunze was right on the mark about winning in Africa
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Nice to see folks flying other airlines also using NBO as a hub. It makes NBO/JKIA more prominent. I hope that also translates to more pax for KQ. I like competition since it reduces the cost for pax as well as better service. The quality of (economy) seats on Etihad and Qatar is commendable for flights to Europe. True. Along with the Africa interconnectivity that KQ offers to these travelers. They can be brought in from Europe/Asia/Americas by any airline but across Africa, KQ is king! Not even SAA or Ethiopian have a broader brochure of African destinations. Ngunze was right on the mark about winning in Africa Ethiopian has an EXTENSIVE network across Africa. I have used it despite (lousy) Bole Airport and awful connections coz of a significant difference in price. Plus they have a stake in a couple of African airlines [Malawi? Togo?] which gives them added flexibility. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Nice to see folks flying other airlines also using NBO as a hub. It makes NBO/JKIA more prominent. I hope that also translates to more pax for KQ. I like competition since it reduces the cost for pax as well as better service. The quality of (economy) seats on Etihad and Qatar is commendable for flights to Europe. True. Along with the Africa interconnectivity that KQ offers to these travelers. They can be brought in from Europe/Asia/Americas by any airline but across Africa, KQ is king! Not even SAA or Ethiopian have a broader brochure of African destinations. Ngunze was right on the mark about winning in Africa Ethiopian has an EXTENSIVE network across Africa. I have used it despite (lousy) Bole Airport and awful connections coz of a significant difference in price. Plus they have a stake in a couple of African airlines [Malawi? Togo?] which gives them added flexibility. @vvs.. Everyone knows that Ethiopian has an extensive fleet almost double the KQ size though it defeats end point destinations flown in Africa by KQ via only 3 extra routes https://www.kenya-airway.../destinations/africa/en/
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Nice to see folks flying other airlines also using NBO as a hub. It makes NBO/JKIA more prominent. I hope that also translates to more pax for KQ. I like competition since it reduces the cost for pax as well as better service. The quality of (economy) seats on Etihad and Qatar is commendable for flights to Europe. True. Along with the Africa interconnectivity that KQ offers to these travelers. They can be brought in from Europe/Asia/Americas by any airline but across Africa, KQ is king! Not even SAA or Ethiopian have a broader brochure of African destinations. Ngunze was right on the mark about winning in Africa Ethiopian has an EXTENSIVE network across Africa. I have used it despite (lousy) Bole Airport and awful connections coz of a significant difference in price. Plus they have a stake in a couple of African airlines [Malawi? Togo?] which gives them added flexibility. @vvs.. Everyone knows that Ethiopian has an extensive fleet almost double the KQ size though it defeats end point destinations flown in Africa by KQ via only 3 extra routes https://www.kenya-airway...destinations/africa/en/ So which is which? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Nice to see folks flying other airlines also using NBO as a hub. It makes NBO/JKIA more prominent. I hope that also translates to more pax for KQ. I like competition since it reduces the cost for pax as well as better service. The quality of (economy) seats on Etihad and Qatar is commendable for flights to Europe. True. Along with the Africa interconnectivity that KQ offers to these travelers. They can be brought in from Europe/Asia/Americas by any airline but across Africa, KQ is king! Not even SAA or Ethiopian have a broader brochure of African destinations. Ngunze was right on the mark about winning in Africa Ethiopian has an EXTENSIVE network across Africa. I have used it despite (lousy) Bole Airport and awful connections coz of a significant difference in price. Plus they have a stake in a couple of African airlines [Malawi? Togo?] which gives them added flexibility. @vvs.. Everyone knows that Ethiopian has an extensive fleet almost double the KQ size though it defeats end point destinations flown in Africa by KQ via only 3 extra routes https://www.kenya-airway...destinations/africa/en/ So which is which? @vvs read between the lines.. frequency of flights are higher in Africa by KQ
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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Can JKIA handle A380s? JNIA (Dar) had an unscheduled A380 land. https://www.exchange.co....worlds-largest-aircraft/Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=VituVingiSana]Can JKIA handle A380s? JNIA (Dar) had an unscheduled A380 land. https://www.exchange.co....orlds-largest-aircraft/[/quote] The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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FundamentAli wrote:The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special Nothing special at all..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Did anyone leave the plane?If not,no big deal.. FundamentAli wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]Can JKIA handle A380s? JNIA (Dar) had an unscheduled A380 land. https://www.exchange.co....orlds-largest-aircraft/[/quote] The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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FundamentAli wrote:The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special Can JKIA handle A380s? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:FundamentAli wrote:The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special Nothing special at all.. Can JKIA handle A380s? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:FundamentAli wrote:The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special Nothing special at all.. Can JKIA handle A380s? I think Emirates flys A380s to JKIA. but they are planning to stop production of the jumbo. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:FundamentAli wrote:The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special Nothing special at all.. Can JKIA handle A380s? I think Emirates flys A380s to JKIA. but they are planning to stop production of the jumbo. EK flies the 777 & 340 to Jkia. Handling a diversion can be done in nbo. No dramas. 380 requires a stronger PCN vs ACN —basically pavement strength which we have. Also requires double jet bridges for the Lower deck and upper deck which we don’t have but can make do with stairs. I watched a video about the dar airport managers talking about a diversion like its a big thing 🤣🤣 ati it is only capable of landing in Jozi and now in dar 🤣🤣
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:FundamentAli wrote:The challenge with the A380 is that airports have to be have the gear for passengers to disembark efficiently. I do not see any thing else that is special Nothing special at all.. Can JKIA handle A380s? I think Emirates flys A380s to JKIA. but they are planning to stop production of the jumbo. Emirates doesn't fly A380 to JKIA. The A380 is normally flown to Australia and Europe. Production of the jumbo is still on with Emirates ordering 16 for the next 10 years Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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