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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
cyruskulei
#9641 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2018 11:31:59 AM
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Kenya Airways will on Wednesday 21st March release its financial results for the period 1st April 2017 to 31st December 2017
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obiero
#9642 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2018 12:47:55 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Full year results will be released in two months time.

So what's the new full year? March or December..

April 1 2017 to March 31 2018


Ahh it was supposed to be two weeks time not two months time.
Year of 1st April 2017 -31 December 2017

I thought so too

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#9643 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2018 1:53:40 PM
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cyruskulei wrote:
Kenya Airways will on Wednesday 21st March release its financial results for the period 1st April 2017 to 31st December 2017

Thanks @cyruskulei

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#9644 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:23:12 PM
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obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
- 12 B...

That's massive can't possibly be the loss before tax. Maximum -7B

There's no loss too massive for KQ...
Losing 7Bn AFTER the loan restructuring?

The restructuring became effective in the last quarter of the revised accounting period for KQ so all effects will carry over to Q1 JAN-MAR 2018 going forward


I thought KQ Q1 was April-June

It was changed at the last AGM


If the agm was on 30th August 2017, then doesn't it mean the earliest any changes to the accounts quarters can be seen is 2019?

It's possible to break the quarters and end the cycle as at 31.12.2017


In such a case, what happens to the half year July - December ?

It can be declared an overlap with adequate notes on the reason behind the changes. The following paragraphs are taken from the IAS Plus summary of IAS 1

Comparative Information

IAS 1 requires that comparative information shall be disclosed in respect of the previous period for all amounts reported in the financial statements, both face of financial statements and notes, unless another Standard requires otherwise. [IAS 1.36]

If comparative amounts are changed or reclassified, various disclosures are required. [IAS 1.38]

Reporting Period

There is a presumption that financial statements will be prepared at least annually. If the annual reporting period changes and financial statements are prepared for a different period, the enterprise must disclose the reason for the change and a warning about problems of comparability. [IAS 1.49]

Kesho ni kesho

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
obiero
#9645 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:39:36 PM
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HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#9646 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:59:22 PM
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@Obiero
Kesho you have booked a seat at the venue kq will be announcing results
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#9647 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:19:12 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@Obiero
Kesho you have booked a seat at the venue kq will be announcing results

A decent loss and the last one for the foreseeable future

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#9648 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:45:35 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@Obiero
Kesho you have booked a seat at the venue kq will be announcing results

A decent loss and the last one for the foreseeable future

What's a "decent loss"?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
littledove
#9649 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:44:55 AM
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Total overheads Kes. 15.5B
Loss after tax Kes. 6.1
Operating profits 1.3B
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
Stiffler
#9650 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:13:37 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
@Obiero
Kesho you have booked a seat at the venue kq will be announcing results



We already know the results

What we really want is the Open Offer...!
Spikes
#9651 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:26:34 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/...-shillings-idUSN6N1GS020
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Ericsson
#9652 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:26:36 AM
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Kenya Airways has changed its year end from March to December to match other airlines, and is announcing a 9 month year today - Chairman Michael Joseph
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Spikes
#9653 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:50:51 AM
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KQ share smashes 10/- bob crucial handle on unprecedented reverse gear following announcement of 9month financial performance in which kshs 6.1million after tax loss is reported . Market sentiment remains gloomy for Kenya's national carrier recovery process that many traders believe has delivered little. Wait and see attitude has now taken over as Open Offer is delayed in an all-out ploy to screw up existing minority shareholders. The stock has inevitably started trading on a single digit support expected at 5/- if delay of Open Offer persists.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
snifadog
#9654 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:34:03 PM
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boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move
VituVingiSana
#9655 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:21:15 PM
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snifadog wrote:
boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Dear Sheeple, show me ONE other person other than @Obiero who had recommended KQ. Or a convincing argument for KQ.

Of course, you were convinced by @obiero's inelegant arguments so...

Good Luck!

"...adding its performance was hurt by a prolonged election period and rising fuel prices." Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Is there any excuse KQ has not used to justify its losses since 2012?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#9656 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:34:30 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
snifadog wrote:
boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Dear Sheeple, show me ONE other person other than @Obiero who had recommended KQ. Or a convincing argument for KQ.

Of course, you were convinced by @obiero's inelegant arguments so...

Good Luck!

"...adding its performance was hurt by a prolonged election period and rising fuel prices." Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Is there any excuse KQ has not used to justify its losses since 2012?

Elegance wachia bibi yako..

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#9657 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:47:16 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
snifadog wrote:
boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Dear Sheeple, show me ONE other person other than @Obiero who had recommended KQ. Or a convincing argument for KQ.

Of course, you were convinced by @obiero's inelegant arguments so...

Good Luck!

"...adding its performance was hurt by a prolonged election period and rising fuel prices." Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Is there any excuse KQ has not used to justify its losses since 2012?

Elegance wachia bibi yako..

I have to admit that I was surprised that someone actually "invested" in KQ in 2017. I understand folks who have been in KQ since 2012 have Stockholm Syndrome BUT actually investing in KQ in 2017?

Hats off to you! [I have had difficulty convincing folks to invest in quality firms like KK among others]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
snifadog
#9658 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:59:42 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
snifadog wrote:
boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Dear Sheeple, show me ONE other person other than @Obiero who had recommended KQ. Or a convincing argument for KQ.

Of course, you were convinced by @obiero's inelegant arguments so...

Good Luck!

"...adding its performance was hurt by a prolonged election period and rising fuel prices." Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Is there any excuse KQ has not used to justify its losses since 2012?





you seem to have it in for flight captain obiero
I was looking for a non dividend stock with a massive upside in 12-18 months frame.
KQ was one of the best options available at the time. The constant shilling by obiero certainly helped too.
am now left holding what crypto people call a 'bag' but it's all good.
obiero
#9659 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:01:59 PM
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snifadog wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
snifadog wrote:
boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Dear Sheeple, show me ONE other person other than @Obiero who had recommended KQ. Or a convincing argument for KQ.

Of course, you were convinced by @obiero's inelegant arguments so...

Good Luck!

"...adding its performance was hurt by a prolonged election period and rising fuel prices." Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Is there any excuse KQ has not used to justify its losses since 2012?





you seem to have it in for flight captain obiero
I was looking for a non dividend stock with a massive upside in 12-18 months frame.
KQ was one of the best options available at the time. The constant shilling by obiero certainly helped too.
am now left holding what crypto people call a 'bag' but it's all good.

I would not despair if I were you.. On the contrary you have a very good buy price at hand.. It's now or never

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#9660 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:10:38 PM
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snifadog wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
snifadog wrote:
boarding this bus/plane is my biggest regret of 2017. even throwing that money into bitcoins would have been a riskier but better move

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Dear Sheeple, show me ONE other person other than @Obiero who had recommended KQ. Or a convincing argument for KQ.

Of course, you were convinced by @obiero's inelegant arguments so...

Good Luck!

"...adding its performance was hurt by a prolonged election period and rising fuel prices." Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Is there any excuse KQ has not used to justify its losses since 2012?


you seem to have it in for flight captain obiero
Not on a personal level but as the guy leading folks to slaughter? Yes
I was looking for a non dividend stock with a massive upside in 12-18 months frame.
I understand but didn't you read the counter-arguments?
Many apart from myself had made them
KQ was one of the best options available at the time. The constant shilling by obiero certainly helped too.
am now left holding what crypto people call a 'bag' but it's all good.
Good Luck. It's the psychology that interests me!

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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