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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kq should be buying second hand planes or leasing from other airlines.
Kq can't play league of buying brand new planes usiskike na @ obiero ukiongea hivyo na hayo masifa yake yote na KQ  How else can KQ achieve a young fuel efficient fleet if not via purchase.. Leased planes are usually older A few years ago but around the same time... Delta bought old planes, refurbished the and made huge profits off utilizing cheap planes. KQ bought new planes (kickbacks?), couldn’t make the payments and made losses galore. How old were the Delta planes? Fact check please! They refurbished their own aircraft at KES 80.8B https://www.usatoday.com...arrowbody-fleet/4370609/
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kq should be buying second hand planes or leasing from other airlines.
Kq can't play league of buying brand new planes usiskike na @ obiero ukiongea hivyo na hayo masifa yake yote na KQ How else can KQ achieve a young fuel efficient fleet if not via purchase.. Leased planes are usually older A few years ago but around the same time... Delta bought old planes, refurbished the and made huge profits off utilizing cheap planes. KQ bought new planes (kickbacks?), couldn’t make the payments and made losses galore. Exactly VVS Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Kq should be buying second hand planes or leasing from other airlines.
Kq can't play league of buying brand new planes usiskike na @ obiero ukiongea hivyo na hayo masifa yake yote na KQ How else can KQ achieve a young fuel efficient fleet if not via purchase.. Leased planes are usually older A few years ago but around the same time... Delta bought old planes, refurbished the and made huge profits off utilizing cheap planes. KQ bought new planes (kickbacks?), couldn’t make the payments and made losses galore. How old were the Delta planes? Fact check please! They refurbished their own aircraft at KES 80.8B https://www.usatoday.com...rrowbody-fleet/4370609/[/quote] There is nothing wrong in delta refurbishing it's own planes.It's like buying your own house which after some years will need refurbishment Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:Ericsson wrote:Kq should be buying second hand planes or leasing from other airlines.
Kq can't play league of buying brand new planes usiskike na @ obiero ukiongea hivyo na hayo masifa yake yote na KQ How else can KQ achieve a young fuel efficient fleet if not via purchase.. Leased planes are usually older A few years ago but around the same time... Delta bought old planes, refurbished the and made huge profits off utilizing cheap planes. KQ bought new planes (kickbacks?), couldn’t make the payments and made losses galore. After making the huge profits Delta is now buying 100 Airbus for $12.7bn https://www.cnbc.com/201...ante-against-boeing.htmlWealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Firm at KES 18, those buying now are a unique type of trader/investor who I hold in the highest regard https://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=KQ
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Kq should be buying second hand planes or leasing from other airlines.
Kq can't play league of buying brand new planes usiskike na @ obiero ukiongea hivyo na hayo masifa yake yote na KQ How else can KQ achieve a young fuel efficient fleet if not via purchase.. Leased planes are usually older A few years ago but around the same time... Delta bought old planes, refurbished the and made huge profits off utilizing cheap planes. KQ bought new planes (kickbacks?), couldn’t make the payments and made losses galore. After making the huge profits Delta is now buying 100 Airbus for $12.7bn https://www.cnbc.com/201...nte-against-boeing.html[/quote] AFTER making the huge profits! Delta bought cheap(er) planes, refurbished them and put them into service. What’s $1bn in refurbishment for many airworthy planes? Compare this to $1bn in new planes that were bought using debt which couldn’t be serviced. KQ’s new planes had to be sold or leased at a loss. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Kq should be buying second hand planes or leasing from other airlines.
Kq can't play league of buying brand new planes usiskike na @ obiero ukiongea hivyo na hayo masifa yake yote na KQ How else can KQ achieve a young fuel efficient fleet if not via purchase.. Leased planes are usually older A few years ago but around the same time... Delta bought old planes, refurbished the and made huge profits off utilizing cheap planes. KQ bought new planes (kickbacks?), couldn’t make the payments and made losses galore. After making the huge profits Delta is now buying 100 Airbus for $12.7bn https://www.cnbc.com/201...nte-against-boeing.html[/quote] AFTER making the huge profits! Delta bought cheap(er) planes, refurbished them and put them into service. What’s $1bn in refurbishment for many airworthy planes? Compare this to $1bn in new planes that were bought using debt which couldn’t be serviced. KQ’s new planes had to be sold or leased at a loss. Never let your past cloud your future
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Labour court has reinstated the sacked engineers/technicians... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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maka wrote:Labour court has reinstated the sacked engineers/technicians... These Courts, you are forced to work with hostile employees  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Labour court has reinstated the sacked engineers/technicians... We are becoming a socialist state... They went on (illegal) strike and Mikosz was right in firing them. Employees [includes managers] in Kenya want the benefit of being owners without the risks of being owners. Where were they when KQ needed a bailout? Look at the idiot who reinstated the crooked mbugua. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Labour court has reinstated the sacked engineers/technicians... We are becoming a socialist state... They went on (illegal) strike and Mikosz was right in firing them. Employees [includes managers] in Kenya want the benefit of being owners without the risks of being owners. Where were they when KQ needed a bailout? Look at the idiot who reinstated the crooked mbugua. Our constitution protects the right to employment and the right to strike. It's worse than a socialist state. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze You are 36.6% down! Wazua is for inspiration not horror stories Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze You are 36.6% down! Wazua is for inspiration not horror stories You should know that I hold no stop loss on KQ. 36.6% is a decent dip by all standards considering the factors at play especially the Open Offer ratio which remains unknown. I have had larger paper losses in the past. Tulia tuli uone pesa ikija.. Meanwhile, how inspiring have you been to wazua? You possess very negative energy. Riswa!
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze Mr. bugger you're under the rubble still waiting for the dust to settle! The guy who bought @2.1bob is not you bugger. Style up! You don't even share the same mindset with the person who scooped some shares at 2bob. Your mindset na yake ni kama mbingu na ardhi. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze Mr. bugger you're under the rubble still waiting for the dust to settle! The guy who bought @2.1bob is not you bugger. Style up! Hahaha.. Mrs Bugger.. Clean up your filthy mouth and trade in stocks not emotions! It's not my fault that you did not buy some KQ at low prices. Umaskini wako haunihusu
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze Mr. bugger you're under the rubble still waiting for the dust to settle! The guy who bought @2.1bob is not you bugger. Style up! Hahaha.. Mrs Bugger.. Clean up your filthy mouth and trade in stocks not emotions! It's not my fault that you did not buy some KQ at low prices. Umaskini wako haunihusu You're lost ,frustrated, confused...you're completely out of sight...You lost market watch long time ago, you are living at the exchange without realignment. I can advise you to go back to the drawing board and discover what went wrong. BTW there is no poverty in the world, but there is lack of ideas in the cosmos. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze Mr. bugger you're under the rubble still waiting for the dust to settle! The guy who bought @2.1bob is not you bugger. Style up! Hahaha.. Mrs Bugger.. Clean up your filthy mouth and trade in stocks not emotions! It's not my fault that you did not buy some KQ at low prices. Umaskini wako haunihusu You're lost ,frustrated, confused...you're completely out of sight...You lost market watch long time ago, you are living at the exchange without realignment. I can advise you to go back to the drawing board and discover what went wrong. BTW there is no poverty in the world, but there is lack of ideas in the cosmos. I have noted your opinions and take this opportunity to wish you a merry Christmas. Hopefully next year God will bless you with ideas to replace the insults
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Labour court has reinstated the sacked engineers/technicians... We are becoming a socialist state... They went on (illegal) strike and Mikosz was right in firing them. Employees [includes managers] in Kenya want the benefit of being owners without the risks of being owners. Where were they when KQ needed a bailout? Look at the idiot who reinstated the crooked mbugua. They won't last long inside KQ given the acrimony raised.. Mbugua meanwhile continues to enjoy extended leave.. The fact that he actually reported back to work is unsettling. A sad state
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:This thread is about to lose credibility it used to enjoy. KES 18.50 prints dear clown. The energy used to oppose the rally would have earned people a lot of money on KQ. Everyone including the shareholders have had the opportunity to make money on KQ. My readjusted ABP is KES 29.2 and I have decided to average down. Kamikaze You are 36.6% down! Wazua is for inspiration not horror stories You should know that I hold no stop loss on KQ. 36.6% is a decent dip by all standards considering the factors at play especially the Open Offer ratio which remains unknown. I have had larger paper losses in the past. Tulia tuli uone pesa ikija.. Meanwhile, how inspiring have you been to wazua? You possess very negative energy. Riswa! Nse is up 32.8% ytd. Your KQ portfolio has underperformed nse by a whooping 69%. Let us call a monkey a monkey, not a cute rabbit. Life is short. Live passionately.
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