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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:obiero wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Spikes wrote:Anything higher in losses ie more than kes7bn in this bear expect a loose drop to 2 bob !!!! of course that is a pure buy. Average down .....average down folks. If i extrapolate your logic, Are home afrika and mumias a buy because they are below 2 bob? Approach stocks slowly and avoid monkeys like KQ, HAFR and you will survive Just one RR engine of a single KQ boeing plane is enough to buy out HAFR. KQ has over 4,000 staff while HAFR has under 40 permanent staff. I could go on and on.. Please dont compare the two firms coz they are incomparable  Omera yawah! Aguy (The buyer) Talk to spikes on buying price instead of value @Boris :) si maringo, ni ukweli.. the only problem at KQ is cost management. revenue wise, at the NSE and outside; only safaricom may hold a candle to KQ Money is in KQ that we know but not for the shareholder. Am that kwa engine kamoja tu kanaweza nunua kamkuni ya Hafrk yote.  I know KQ turnaround to deliver yearly PBT of over KES 10B in next 3 years Nice! Only 29bn more to go after that to get to zero equity. I should jump in before it becomes solvent. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Bubbling under
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Kenya Airways, a member of the Sky Team Alliance, is a leading African airline flying to 52 destinations worldwide, 42 of which are in Africa and carries over three million passengers annually. It continues to modernize its fleet with its 41 aircraft being some of the youngest in Africa. This includes its flagship B787 Dreamliner aircrafts. The on-board service is renowned and the lie-flat business class seat on the wide-body aircraft is consistently voted among the world’s top 10. Most recently it has scooped top awards at the Africa Investor (Ai) Tourism Investor Awards and was declared the Business Airline of the Year in Africa. Kenya Airways takes pride for being in the forefront of connecting Africa to the World and the World to Africa through its hub at the new ultra-modern Terminal 1A at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport in Nairobi. For more information, please visit www.kenya-airways.com.
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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  Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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Once a wonderful firm. Destroyed by Naikuni, Mbugua and their friends. I discarded KQ in 2012. Despite all the progress, it remains a Bandia firm. Not investable. Good luck to the shareholders. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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turnaround strategy working as @obiero proclaimed earlier KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Once a wonderful firm. Destroyed by Naikuni, Mbugua and their friends. I discarded KQ in 2012. Despite all the progress, it remains a Bandia firm. Not investable. Good luck to the shareholders. This so called bandia firm will make us rich.. Currently loading up on my third trading streak, having exited twice before, one of which was at a loss of over KES 200,000
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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mkate_nusu wrote:turnaround strategy working as @obiero proclaimed earlier Loooong long way to go...bado. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Once a wonderful firm. Destroyed by Naikuni, Mbugua and their friends. I discarded KQ in 2012. Despite all the progress, it remains a Bandia firm. Not investable. Good luck to the shareholders. This so called bandia firm will make us rich.. Currently loading up on my third trading streak, having exited twice before, one of which was at a loss of over KES 200,000 NSE is for the brave who think differently like @Obiero recently doubled his capital after a rocket rally that died at 7.xy shillings. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Once a wonderful firm. Destroyed by Naikuni, Mbugua and their friends. I discarded KQ in 2012. Despite all the progress, it remains a Bandia firm. Not investable. Good luck to the shareholders. This so called bandia firm will make us rich.. Currently loading up on my third trading streak, having exited twice before, one of which was at a loss of over KES 200,000 NSE is for the brave who think differently like @Obiero recently doubled his capital after a rocket rally that died at 7.xy shillings. Meanwhile, this stock missed 2 bob by a whisker were not be the entry of Micheal Joseph into the board. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Once a wonderful firm. Destroyed by Naikuni, Mbugua and their friends. I discarded KQ in 2012. Despite all the progress, it remains a Bandia firm. Not investable. Good luck to the shareholders. This so called bandia firm will make us rich.. Currently loading up on my third trading streak, having exited twice before, one of which was at a loss of over KES 200,000 Good luck. Perhaps as a "trader" [& the sheep in front that other sheep follow as they are led to the abattoir] it makes sense. I am a "Buy and Hold" investor. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:turnaround strategy working as @obiero proclaimed earlier Loooong long way to go...bado. We are on the cusp of victory.. The quarterly operation results had even stopped being released, so this is one of the many positive signs
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Once a wonderful firm. Destroyed by Naikuni, Mbugua and their friends. I discarded KQ in 2012. Despite all the progress, it remains a Bandia firm. Not investable. Good luck to the shareholders. This so called bandia firm will make us rich.. Currently loading up on my third trading streak, having exited twice before, one of which was at a loss of over KES 200,000 NSE is for the brave who think differently like @Obiero recently doubled his capital after a rocket rally that died at 7.xy shillings. Meanwhile, this stock missed 2 bob by a whisker were not be the entry of Micheal Joseph into the board. The truth is that KQ can go down to KES 1, leave alone KES 2..It all depends on varied circumstances.. But as at now, KES 14 is more likely http://www.businessdaily...94196-jpgn7mz/index.html
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:10+ reasons to believe in operation pride at KQ: 1. End of hedging policy 2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses 3. Rightsizing of the workforce 4. Fuel efficient planes 5. Route optimization especially in Africa 6. Category 1 status at main hub 7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out 8. Sale of non critical assets 9. Global reduction in fuel costs 10. Revival in KE tourism 11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class 12. Cleaned-up board and management 13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers 14. Recent rate cap by GoK 15. Financial revamp by transaction advisers 16. Strong forex holding with primary pricing being USD  Profit trend (L/PBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2016 ascending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 -29,710 -26,099 -3,311 Kenya Airways operating margin trend 2016 -3.5% 2015 -14.8% 2014 -2.2% 2013 -9.11% .. 2010 2.6% 2009 5.6% 2008 11.6% 2007 13.1% Point #16 is particularly pregnant seeing the current exchange rate on the green buck.. A godsend for KQ
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,640 Location: NAIROBI
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The amount of loans KQ takes is more than what it repays per annum. Bandia company. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:The amount of loans KQ takes is more than what it repays per annum.
Bandia company. Obiero never looks at such things...that company survives on loans... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,640 Location: NAIROBI
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maka wrote:Ericsson wrote:The amount of loans KQ takes is more than what it repays per annum.
Bandia company. Obiero never looks at such things...that company survives on loans... Amount of loans is increasing faster than the repayment From the figures released on Monday by kq revenue declined Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:Ericsson wrote:The amount of loans KQ takes is more than what it repays per annum.
Bandia company. Obiero never looks at such things...that company survives on loans... Amount of loans is increasing faster than the repayment From the figures released on Monday by kq revenue declined Factually inaccurate for all borrowing.. The amount of loan that one takes cannot be more than what you repay per annum.. Unless it's a one year facility.. Bandia analysis
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:Ericsson wrote:The amount of loans KQ takes is more than what it repays per annum.
Bandia company. Obiero never looks at such things...that company survives on loans... Amount of loans is increasing faster than the repayment From the figures released on Monday by kq revenue declined @Ericsson who here in their right mind expected revenue to increase for the period in review.. 7 aircraft less and you expect increased revenue?? The battle can be won on the bottom line and not necessarily revenue growth.. In my view KQ has never had a revenue problem but a costs one
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,640 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:Ericsson wrote:The amount of loans KQ takes is more than what it repays per annum.
Bandia company. Obiero never looks at such things...that company survives on loans... Amount of loans is increasing faster than the repayment From the figures released on Monday by kq revenue declined Factually inaccurate for all borrowing.. The amount of loan that one takes cannot be more than what you repay per annum.. Unless it's a one year facility.. Bandia analysis Obiero I speak with facts. If you look at the amount of loans in half year 2016 / 2017 and compare with the corresponding previous half year results the loan amount is increasing. If you also compare with the full year 2016 results. kq is surviving and being given more loans coz of gok guarantee otherwise it would have been dead and buried. Bandia company kabisa Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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