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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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http://www.businessdaily.../1/-/odo1kq/-/index.html HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/KQ-pilots-had-better-go-for-lesser-devil-of-redeployment/-/539548/3196710/-/item/1/-/odo1kq/-/index.html Everybody makes money off KQ but the shareholders. Boeing. Rugendo. Pilots. Banks. GoK (taxes). Crew. KAA. Suppliers. Hotels. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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obiero wrote:http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/KQ-pilots-had-better-go-for-lesser-devil-of-redeployment/-/539548/3196710/-/item/1/-/odo1kq/-/index.html
You are really trying to sound sane. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. KQ's shares are hotcakes. @Obiero better snap them up before they are gone. In other news, there's also a large buyer at Kestrel for KK at 10.50 if you want to sell. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. KQ Year end Mar 2016. I expect another operational loss. A narrower loss may be expected thanks to asset sales. Williamson Year End Mar 2016. I expect record profits perhaps even EPS of 50/-. A dividend of 40/-. @Obiero - How many shares in KQ does Mbuvi have? @Impunity - Why would you even consider buying KQ at 2/-? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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VituVingiSana wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. KQ Year end Mar 2016. I expect another operational loss. A narrower loss may be expected thanks to asset sales. Williamson Year End Mar 2016. I expect record profits perhaps even EPS of 50/-. A dividend of 40/-. @Obiero - How many shares in KQ does Mbuvi have? @Impunity - Why would you even consider buying KQ at 2/-? @obiero your dreams are shattered, you are now declared finished. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 895 Location: sky
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Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. KQ Year end Mar 2016. I expect another operational loss. A narrower loss may be expected thanks to asset sales. Williamson Year End Mar 2016. I expect record profits perhaps even EPS of 50/-. A dividend of 40/-. @Obiero - How many shares in KQ does Mbuvi have? @Impunity - Why would you even consider buying KQ at 2/-? @obiero your dreams are shattered, you are now declared finished. @spikes you are a comedian There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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VituVingiSana wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. KQ Year end Mar 2016. I expect another operational loss. A narrower loss may be expected thanks to asset sales. Williamson Year End Mar 2016. I expect record profits perhaps even EPS of 50/-. A dividend of 40/-. @Obiero - How many shares in KQ does Mbuvi have? @Impunity - Why would you even consider buying KQ at 2/-? @VVS at sub-2 bob I would simply be buying for souvenir...to keep and compare one day that the share was once hitting 140 shillings but now selling at sub 2 shillings. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2010 Posts: 391 Location: nairobie
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VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. 3.95 prints
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 4/11/2016 Posts: 30 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/KQ-pilots-had-better-go-for-lesser-devil-of-redeployment/-/539548/3196710/-/item/1/-/odo1kq/-/index.html It is actually KQ that does not want to let go of the 777 pilots. Mainly 2 reasons. 1. They do not have funds to pay them off now. Some of those pilots have worked 30 years and will need send of package of approximately 20 million. For the total number of 28 Captains that is approximately 560 million bob. 2. The Turkish sublease agreement for the (3) 777-300 and the Oman Air (3)787 is for 3 years after which KQ may get the aircrafts back. That means they may need those captains 3 years down the road. With the current high experience pilot shortage globally they have to be smart or they may end up like Emirates currently grounding aircrafts coz of nil pilots. So they cant retrench them coz they will need them at some point and they also cant maintain them on payroll coz of the costs. That is why the Ethiopian deal makes sense. Most of the pilots however want to resign get their money and go home but it is difficult seeing that KQ has blocked voluntary early retirement to all staff. There is where the conflict lies.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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littledove wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. KQ Year end Mar 2016. I expect another operational loss. A narrower loss may be expected thanks to asset sales. Williamson Year End Mar 2016. I expect record profits perhaps even EPS of 50/-. A dividend of 40/-. @Obiero - How many shares in KQ does Mbuvi have? @Impunity - Why would you even consider buying KQ at 2/-? @obiero your dreams are shattered, you are now declared finished. @spikes you are a comedian What a coincidence...just when he acquired the bland (no pun) new Dreamliners, his DREAMS just got cut short! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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subaru wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. 3.95 prints #SuicideWatch Where is @cde? I miss his insults re: my stance on KQ. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,057 Location: Nairobi
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Emirates Profit Rises 50% on Fuel Windfall, Long-Haul Routes http://www.bloomberg.com...dfall-long-haul-traffic
"The airline benefited from a 28 percent oil-price drop in the fiscal year after opting not to hedge against crude." Compare this to the fools and crooks at KQ. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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VituVingiSana wrote:Emirates Profit Rises 50% on Fuel Windfall, Long-Haul Routes http://www.bloomberg.com...dfall-long-haul-traffic
"The airline benefited from a 28 percent oil-price drop in the fiscal year after opting not to hedge against crude." Compare this to the fools and crooks at KQ. Africans need to eat vvs in comparison to the other countries. .I find it foolish and selfish. Former finance boss wants to come back to kq because he was fired unfairly and he was behind all the kq problems. It's foolish man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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nzalela wrote:obiero wrote:http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/KQ-pilots-had-better-go-for-lesser-devil-of-redeployment/-/539548/3196710/-/item/1/-/odo1kq/-/index.html It is actually KQ that does not want to let go of the 777 pilots. Mainly 2 reasons. 1. They do not have funds to pay them off now. Some of those pilots have worked 30 years and will need send of package of approximately 20 million. For the total number of 28 Captains that is approximately 560 million bob. 2. The Turkish sublease agreement for the (3) 777-300 and the Oman Air (3)787 is for 3 years after which KQ may get the aircrafts back. That means they may need those captains 3 years down the road. With the current high experience pilot shortage globally they have to be smart or they may end up like Emirates currently grounding aircrafts coz of nil pilots. So they cant retrench them coz they will need them at some point and they also cant maintain them on payroll coz of the costs. That is why the Ethiopian deal makes sense. Most of the pilots however want to resign get their money and go home but it is difficult seeing that KQ has blocked voluntary early retirement to all staff. There is where the conflict lies. That 20 Million is the employer part of the provident? So the other personal contribution is more or less 20 million. So each of the affected pilots could easily take home 40 million? Then why would a 55 year old pilot need to work again in the dangerous skies? at 55 he can seat pretty and invest the money in any passive business and still live a fairly comfortable life. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Obiero - You are in luck. Kestrel has 1mn KQ shares for sale at 4.30 but negotiable. @obiero sub 4/- is likely today. This is the week of sub-4...then by Madaraka day, my sub-2 bob will be realized. Anybody buying this stock is either a FOOL or someone trying to wash the Eurobond. And a fool and his money are soon parted...hizo 106,000 KQ shares worth Kes.400,000 on paper will soon be parted with their foolish (forgive me for using this term) owner. Atleast your mum doesnt think of me in that way HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Prints a new all time low of 3.85. The fight is tough, but slowly the 4.00 handle is cracking. On the charts (daily and weekly) the RSI is still not oversold! The price will likely leak towards 3.00 to 3.50 before the overselling gauges start screaming. The bears have been in full control since March 2015 as per the moving average (SMA20) which has managed to repel any price advances above it. $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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