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Edge
#1 Posted : Sunday, May 23, 2010 7:14:24 PM
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What defines a competent person?i have met some of these GMs and CEOs n most of them know nothing beyond good english.Who is with me on this one?
gogeta
#2 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22:27 AM
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A competent person is the one who has sufficient skills and knowledge. For these pple to be where they are they must have demonstrated some special skills and effectiveness.
You will find someone who while he/she was a junior he/she was very knowledgable and hardworking, but when they get to the snr management positions they tend to do less and have other Jnrs think and work for them while they improve their management and leadership skills.
Think the unthinkable but wear a dark suit
muganda
#3 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 4:03:07 PM
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OKAY so I came across a gem, and it's a presentation by one of the best CEOs in Kenya. I'll reveal that much much later, with the link if Wazuans are interested. The presentation is titled 'LEADERSHIP' is all about growing leaders.

Herein lies the problem. I agree with @gogeta, we have very many bosses but very few leaders...

Excerpts:
“I start with the premise that the function of leadership is to produce more leaders, not more followers.” Ralph Nader

Experiences that have had most impact to this leader:
•Always learning as it never ends
•At ISEAD and other business schools, one learns how much they don’t know

According to him (yes it's a man), leaders have certain ingredients, key among them being vision and purpose. Other ingredients:
• Influence
• Integrity/Authenticity
• Creating positive change
• Attitude
• Respect
• People development
• Self Discipline

mlefu
#4 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 5:03:05 PM
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linkPray
muganda
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:56:35 AM
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@mlefu, pole pole. Now that I've got your interest...

What comes first Vision, People or LEADERS?

• Some people never see it
• Some people see it but never pursue it on their own
(they are followers)
• Some people see it and pursue it
(they are achievers)
• Some people see it and pursue it and help others see it
(they are leaders)
wasee
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:48:38 AM
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competence is having the right skills and knowledge to perform a job right.
muganda
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:35:12 AM
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@wasee, I can't argue with your position. However @Edge starts with competence then narrows it to GM and CEO (positions of authority).
@gogeta's view was leaders were knowledgable and hardworking then they become senior to focus on management and leadership.

Hence my going on and on about leadership. You see it's possible to be competent and be a follower, or in most cases just an achiever. I discovered that few make it to leadership.

And what I learnt from the presentation I'm sharing is that true leaders, more than any 'skills' and 'knowledge' must have a VISION - because a vision is the conduit for a leader to inspire and influence others.


If are a leader and you want to build a ship,
you may choose to drum up people together to collect wood
and then assign them tasks and work,

but on the other hand, you may teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea.
gogeta
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:45:52 AM
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@Muganda the Jnrs should then start developing their leadership skills early enough before they get to the management level. oh well...Happens very little in Kenya.
Think the unthinkable but wear a dark suit
Amir
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:19:12 AM
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muganda
plagiarism is a crime in information/copyright world kindly cite ua source bwana as quality leaders always do
no hard feelings bro

The Brave may not live forever - but the cautious do not live at all: Richard Branson
muganda
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:43:31 PM
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@Amir smile I'm just borrowing for a bit before I share the link. My presenter quoted his mentors/business leaders he admires most as:

1. Lee Kwan Yew, SINGAPORE
In 1965 – independence (same period as Kenya, Uganda,Tanzania)
From a “mere fishing village” to a “Financial Hub” which the world looks up to
Average growth of 8.5% CAGR since independence
Long term vision, strong leadership


2. Sheik Maktoum, DUBAI
- In 1990 oil contributed 35% of GDP (now accounts for <10%)
- Non oil contribution has grown FOUR times since 1990 from US$ 5bn to US$ 20bn in 2003
- GDP per capital of approx US$20,000 (versus Kenya below US$400)
- Dubai GDP grew by 16.7% in 2004 [for a population of about1m people]
- Private Sector now accounts for 50% of GDP
- Gateway to trade in Asia and ME - links other continents Africa,Europe and US
- Millions of traders visit Dubai every year



So the leader I'm quoting is one from the picture shown below:
(his leadership style is open providing latitude and freedom, empowers people, non-confrontational, drives initiatives vigorously and innovative)

VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:51:04 PM
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Neither kenyatta nor moi nor kibaki can be considered remotely competent when compared to Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
muganda
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:24:18 AM
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Now now now, got sidetracked yesterday and forgot about this ongoing soap opera... Where were we? YES, near the end. Next post I share the link to presentation.

At the end of the presentation, my secret leader does an self-assessment of himself as a leader:

My leader's career path:
• UON Graduate ( B.Commerce) 1983
• G4S (formerly Securicor) 1983-1985
• Corporate Insurance (Head of Finance) 1985-1990
• ALICO Kenya (Head of Finance) 1990-1995
• Standard Chartered Bank (Finance Director) 1995-1999
• EABL (Group Finance and Strategy Director) 1999-2002
• Guinness Nigerian (Strategy and Change Director) 2003
• EABL (CEO) 2004 to date of presentation
• Director of 10 companies and Chairman of UDV(K)


Ingredients that inspire his experience:
• Lead through people / delegate
• Innovation – stay ahead of the game
• Energy
• Realign leaders around the essentials
• Be part of the solution – not the problem
• Coaching & mentoring

• Clear role – linked to capacity of leader
• Resilience & tenacity
• Creating traction
• Visibility
• Understand and managing the politics
• Buy in from the top
• Talent spoting


A great many people think that they are thinking when they are really arranging their prejudices
Edward R Marrow
muganda
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:54:35 PM
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In 1901, Wilbur Wright obviously disappointed with a failed flight experiment said these words to his brother Man will not fly for a thousand years. But in one last effort, the Wrights turned to wind tunnel tests and finally uncovered the secrets of heavier-than-air flight.


Some rules of a successful leader:
• Be ready to make tough decisions
• Learn to listen to your team members problems
• Don’t be afraid to challenge the experts
• Never neglect details
• Keep looking below the surface appearances
• Only by attracting the best people will you accomplish great ideas
• Never let your ego get close to your position – or when your position goes, your ego goes with it

• Fit no stereotypes
• Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier
• Rules for picking people
– look for intelligence and judgment
– and most critically, a capacity to anticipate, to see around corners

• Great leaders are always great simplifiers – simplicity is the rule of the game
• In making decisions, when the information is in the 40-70% range – go with your gut – don't wait to get up to 100%
• The team in the field is always right
• Have fun as a leader – work life balance!



Bottom line
“If your actions inspire others to
dream more, learn more, do more
and become more, you are a leader.”
John Quincy Adams
muganda
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:11:09 PM
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Ooops forgot the link...

In 2008, Training Solutions hosted "The Leadership Habits of East Africa's Business Champions", where participants had the opportunity to get UP CLOSE and PERSONAL with East Africa's best:
-Jane Karuku,
-Martin Oduor-Otieno (KCB)
-Titus Naikuni (Kenya Airways)
-Michael Joseph (Safaricom)
-Gerald Mahinda (EABL)
-Richard Etemesi (Standard Chartered)
-Vimal Shah (Bidco)
-Mugo Kibati (Miliki Ventures)
-Richard Boro Ndung’u (KPMG East Africa)
-Patricia Ithau
-Jonathan Ciano (Uchumi)
-Muthoni Kuria (Southern Credit Bank)-
-Eric M. Kimani (Palmhouse Dairies Limited)
-Isaac Awuondo (Commercial Bank of Africa).


I'll be the first to confess I was not there. But thanks to a true leader - Gerald Mahinda - I uncovered by accident the presentation he made to the panel.


First: (empty your mind)
If your mind is empty,
it is always ready for anything;
it is open to everything.

In the beginner’s mind
there are many possibilities,
but in the expert’s
there are few.
Shunryu Suzuki


Link: LEADERship It’s all about … Growing Leaders by Gerlad Mahinda


@Edge are you still with us. Hope Wazuans enjoy...
You will find all quotes/statements I've made in this post are borrowed from his presentation. Typing out sections here helped me a great deal.
smile
Edge
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:18:32 PM
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Mr.Muganda Sir,am with yu,but a little earlier i got lost in the thread.From yua post i read that great leadership skills are very essential to move up,i agree with yu but not in totality.
Have yu eva noted how some of these leaders are egocentric?
But leadership is not all,qualitative and quantative knowledge is very important.
What is yua take on a business english course?

muganda
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:16:57 PM
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@Edge, I agree with you that many bosses have big egos and speak glib english. But they can only be managers/achievers at best, and few last.

In dealing with people, true leaders bring alot of respect to the table plus a positive attitude and self discipline - even when they are stammerinfg, speaking in mother tounge, or with unpolished accents.
Phaoro
#17 Posted : Friday, May 28, 2010 1:57:27 PM
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From personal experience, I think the most critical element of leadership is credibility. This is a critical element that is mostly forgoten and I am not sure if that is because most people giving talks about leadership are usually leaders and never want to address credibility issues or for what reasons.

Also the aforementioned qualities by Muganda are crucial, but in my view credibility is everything. All other leadership qualities have tentacles tied to this one key quality.
muganda
#18 Posted : Friday, May 28, 2010 2:09:48 PM
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@Phaoro, agreed agreed agreed. Sometimes there's just too much to say that what's important gets lost.

In the presentation:
John C Maxwell : "leadership is influence - nothing more, nothing less." ………. without maintaining integrity and trustworthiness, the capability to influence will disappear.

Ingredients of a leader:
• Influence
• Integrity/Authenticity
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