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tafutabiz
#921 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:52:53 AM
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Am about to start constructing my 120sqm maisonette and will share with the rest of you my experiences too, otherwise thank you guys that have shared on this platform, you have given me enough confidence.
Lolest!
#922 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:38:59 AM
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Musimo
#923 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 2:41:20 AM
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popat wrote:
I noticed some small cracks on my house walls which came as a surprise because I supervised that house when fundis were plastering.I also ensured the watering was well done.The cracks have come after 1yr.When I called a structural engineer who supervised the house he said the cracks were not dangerous coz they had not affected the beams nor columns,that they were on the wall alone.A second and third opinion from other engineers turned out same verdict.This got me thinking is it possible that the mix of sand(Naivasha) and cement could be the cause of this.Am told the Machakos sand bonds better. Wazua experience shud certainly help a brother


worst thing about the naivasha sand is that the ratio of sand to cement used is similar to that used when using machakos sand,whereas the properties of the naivasha sand are not well defined i.e. density,porosity, particle size amongst other properties (KeBS and other researches wamelalia masikio) But you are right to suspect the same, as are the engineers you consulted.
Musimo
#924 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 3:09:05 AM
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tafutabiz wrote:
Am about to start constructing my 120sqm maisonette and will share with the rest of you my experiences too, otherwise thank you guys that have shared on this platform, you have given me enough confidence.


Where are you building it at? Anyways good luck in your endeavours.
tafutabiz
#925 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 5:18:01 PM
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@ Musimo, the site is in Utawala.

Am doing it in phases, am now at the first phase(Foundation), total material estimate cost 320K, my guy is asking for 100K for labour. Is that fair deal?
limanika
#926 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:25:50 PM
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tafutabiz wrote:
@ Musimo, the site is in Utawala.

Am doing it in phases, am now at the first phase(Foundation), total material estimate cost 320K, my guy is asking for 100K for labour. Is that fair deal?

Ask him for breakdown e.g. foundation, blinding, compaction, casting etc to avoid risk of overpricing or underpricing. also ensure you creat impression to the fundi you understand A-Z abt construction otherwise they will take you round
Jitahidi
#927 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:56:44 PM
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Am using a bio digester in a flat to recycle water which is used for flushing all toilets. The recycled water looks clean unfortunately it has a bad odour that have refused to go. Anyone with idea on how to address the bad odour?
hardwood
#928 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2016 5:27:29 PM
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Jitahidi wrote:
Am using a bio digester in a flat to recycle water which is used for flushing all toilets. The recycled water looks clean unfortunately it has a bad odour that have refused to go. Anyone with idea on how to address the bad odour?


Is this setup legal? What does Public Health and Nema say about this. The water could be full of harmful bacteria.
Mukiri
#929 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:16:21 PM
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tafutabiz wrote:
Am about to start constructing my 120sqm maisonette and will share with the rest of you my experiences too, otherwise thank you guys that have shared on this platform, you have given me enough confidence.

Hope you do it on a separate thread, and in detail. ie Foundation trenches were xyz deep, cost for digging was abc, steel was xyz, it was cut into abc, concrete was a mix of xyz kokoto and abc simiti, we put a layer of xyz inches, foundation stones from etc etc Kujenga sio mucheso

Im in the process of building another house and could do with some comparison

Proverbs 19:21
sitaki.kujulikana
#930 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:24:16 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
tafutabiz wrote:
Am about to start constructing my 120sqm maisonette and will share with the rest of you my experiences too, otherwise thank you guys that have shared on this platform, you have given me enough confidence.

Hope you do it on a separate thread, and in detail. ie Foundation trenches were xyz deep, cost for digging was abc, steel was xyz, it was cut into abc, concrete was a mix of xyz kokoto and abc simiti, we put a layer of xyz inches, foundation stones from etc etc Kujenga sio mucheso

Im in the process of building another house and could do with some comparison

sq and guest room 12 X 24 feet chini and the same juu.

Foundation;
Black cotton excavation 2.5 feet deep 4,000
Foundation stones 9' 11,500
Sand 13,500
ballast 10,000
Hardcore 6,000
Karatasi 800
Mabo 6X1 2000

Day 1
1 fundi, 2 kym, 10 bags cement foundation footings finished.

Day 2
1 Fundi 2 kym, 3 bags cement 1 foundation stone levels.
Rainned whole night the whole thing was flooded, water had to be removed first.

Day 3
1 Fundi, 2 kym, 3 foundation levels 8 bags cement

Day 4
Filling up with the hardcore

Day 5
1 fundi, 4 kym, 15 bags cement, foundation slab ika korogwa

Day 7
Structure,
Ndarugu mawe za 9, 600 feet(I think) 31,000
some mabati strip places between stone levels - around 1, 500
Prep work, 1 fundi, 2 kym 1 level stone work

Day 8
1 fundi, 2 kym, 3 levels stone work

Day 9
2 fundi, 2 kym, 3 levels stone work

Day 10
2 fundi, 2 kym 3 levels stone work

Day 11, 12, 13, 14
Hired trappers, mabo and poles 10,000
12 y12, 40 y10, 10 r8 binding wire kibao 35,000

2 fundi, 2 kym did the trappers and support and did the chuma work.

Day 15
Slab work 15,000
20 bags cement
sand 13,500
ballast 16,000
tinker
#931 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:22:53 PM
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Has someone came a cross a certain type of house slab shutter that looks like a Cadbury chocolate pattern ( .


How good is it?
Does it save on anything as compared to conventional method?
Where can one get it?



....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
tinker
#932 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:39:59 PM
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tinker wrote:
Has someone came a cross a certain type of house slab shutter that looks like a Cadbury chocolate pattern

How good is it?
Does it save on anything as compared to conventional method?
Where can one get it?



....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
Rongla
#933 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:43:46 PM
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tinker wrote:
Has someone came a cross a certain type of house slab shutter that looks like a Cadbury chocolate pattern ( .


How good is it?
Does it save on anything as compared to conventional method?
Where can one get it?




I am no engineer nor architect but l guess you're talking about concrete waffles. The technology has been around for years but quite new in Kenya. Search Concrete waffles here on Wazua. Or Google Kizuri waffles to see if it's the chocolate pattern you're after.
Jitahidi
#934 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:21:56 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Jitahidi wrote:
Am using a bio digester in a flat to recycle water which is used for flushing all toilets. The recycled water looks clean unfortunately it has a bad odour that have refused to go. Anyone with idea on how to address the bad odour?


Is this setup legal? What does Public Health and Nema say about this. The water could be full of harmful bacteria.

@hardwood thanks your query. I had not thought about Public health/Nema. In the meantime I have discontinued bio digester until I get a solution
Chaka
#935 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:47:30 PM
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Jitahidi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Jitahidi wrote:
Am using a bio digester in a flat to recycle water which is used for flushing all toilets. The recycled water looks clean unfortunately it has a bad odour that have refused to go. Anyone with idea on how to address the bad odour?


Is this setup legal? What does Public Health and Nema say about this. The water could be full of harmful bacteria.

@hardwood thanks your query. I had not thought about Public health/Nema. In the meantime I have discontinued bio digester until I get a solution

@hardwood,
What you are saying is the the water that would normally be channeled to a soak pit is pumped to an overhead tank dedicated to toilets?I think you are punishing your tenants in the name of conserving water..
Tara
#936 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:49:01 PM
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What would be the cost of putting up something like this? Plot is off Kamiti Rd if that makes a difference. Red soil. Similar finishes.

http://www.pigiame.co.ke...suite-apartments-3456198
tinker
#937 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:56:12 AM
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Rongla wrote:
tinker wrote:
Has someone came a cross a certain type of house slab shutter that looks like a Cadbury chocolate pattern ( .


How good is it?
Does it save on anything as compared to conventional method?
Where can one get it?




I am no engineer nor architect but l guess you're talking about concrete waffles. The technology has been around for years but quite new in Kenya. Search Concrete waffles here on Wazua. Or Google Kizuri waffles to see if it's the chocolate pattern you're after.



@Rongla. Thanks for educating me, that's what I was looking for.
....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
tinker
#938 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:10:09 PM
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Anybody who has used roofing concrete waffles to lay slab?
How much did you save comparatively?

What are the disadvantages - if any?
....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
Rongla
#939 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:29:36 PM
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tinker wrote:
Anybody who has used roofing concrete waffles to lay slab?
How much did you save comparatively?

What are the disadvantages - if any?

There is a lot of information about waffles here on Wazua. Just search. Link

Waffles
mamtrevor
#940 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:15:17 PM
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Pablo et al, you all gave very good insights on construction.could you kindly also give pointers on the finishing costs? thanks
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