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Safaricom results-what's your take?
Wakandi
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:59:00 AM
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MJ is set to release the company's results later today. He's reported to have promised a ground shaking announcement. Given that the 10 percent ruLe applies not on this day,what,s your take? i'm going to place a sale order @ kshs 6.50. Ambitious?

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ogutuwalwanga
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:32:00 PM
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Was luky to buy last week @ 3.10 orded for more @ 5.00 shares were not available even with 7.00.Same applies to KCB.

ogutu
Sober
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:03:00 PM
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Strategists in major telecoms firms ranked MJ as the 49th most influential CEO in the world.
I know something good is coming but dont expect too much here.

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virji1988
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:38:00 PM
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whhere are the results???
Kamwana
#5 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2008 3:48:00 AM
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where are the results or did i miss something?
miser
#6 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2008 5:26:00 AM
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Interim dividend?Ah just dreams unless he offers halve of a five cent(0.005?) because even with full year results,it will be a maximum of five cents!!
chemos
#7 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2008 5:32:00 AM
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Results will be announced by midday
Njunge
#8 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2008 5:38:00 AM
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Maiduda,

Devidends....???.....Unless he borrows.....heh!
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Sober
#9 Posted : Friday, November 07, 2008 6:22:00 AM
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With a drop in the average earning per coupled by stagnating number of subscribers because of market saturation the user the profits are bound to be released will be lower than 19bn.
Results would be released this afternoon past 3pm or most probably on monday. A listed company can't release sensitive information within the trading hours,i hope you remember the stanchart's case where trading was suspended.

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Jus Blazin
#10 Posted : Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:55:00 AM
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results will be out on wednesday 12th...and the half year results may be marginally better than last year.

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gogeta
#11 Posted : Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:36:00 PM
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i don think the results will make a difference however better....i mean am holding those shares for long term,

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novestor
#12 Posted : Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:08:00 AM
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Rarely are you expected to defend Safcom on SK,but this will be a historic lesson worth taking a position on in stock valuation,as result's are now expected tommorow. Depending on what you use i.e:-
1. If you use P/E,EPS,Par Value/nominal value to guide you or
2. Company Vision,Management,Previous earnings,Economic outlook and product mix etc,or
3. Rumors,heresay etc
If 1,ignore me,if 2 do this Kienyeji Prediction. Without the benefit of research info and balance sheets:-
1. Look at your phonebook and see the changes thus far,ask the kiosk near you about what scratch cards sell's well,is he selling many or has income reduced(guide you on efect on lower call rate's) and if there are significant change's in calling patterns(mine,more safcom call's,though vuka/orange did get breif growth then tanked with jibambie,i carry telkom,and use all three).
2. Knowing that there are over 4million registered Mpesa user's some paying 1bob to view their balance per day,and other (million's) paying at least 25/= up to 450/= for a transfer of cash per day,count the new Mpesa shops and see
3. Do you trust the management? is thier expected venture into fixed lines and fibreoptics a probable income boost,and can they continue to grow
4. How much will capital expenditure hit them,has their capital expenditure been reducing?
5. Does Kenya's economic outlook support growth. IMF,World bank are now distinguishing developed and emerging markets when it comes to impact of global crises
6. Estimate growth on Market valuation(current stock price(Kes4.05) * 40billion stocks=KES162bill)divide by expected after tax profit (20bill/162bill *100=12.35%)and compare with other stocks (10% profit growth against market capitalisation is huge,expect more)
Conclusion
I think 6.50 is an understatement if you average out at more(given most locals purchased fleeing foreignor's stock),if you average out at 5bob or less it's OK,remember of the 10billion share sold at IPO less than 2bill have been traded (mostly local's buying out foreigner's),and alot are holding. That's my own take,please give your's without being 'incedeniary'. Factor the fact that i hold thousand's of stock in safcom and temper you judgement accordingly,but you won't make cash on stock's without research,you will continue to buy at 300 and sell at 100.

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Douvante
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:36:00 AM
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Whats up with the results,i thought they were to be announced yesterday.Anyone wiith an idea of what's going on?
novestor
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:47:00 AM
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labda they are passing through ODM/PNU first,yak!

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McReggae
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:48:00 AM
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My sources tell they should be ut tommorrow evening or thursday and they are better than last years'!!!!

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ddsimiyu
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:25:00 AM
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When is the man talking?.

Desiderious
sayshap
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:49:00 AM
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Look at the share price;its positively up at kes. 4.30 which means there is a small improvement in returns.I hold shares in excess of 10K,what will be my dividend?

osh
dijkstra
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:29:00 AM
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they will be announced on Wednesday

none
jammo
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:41:00 AM
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It will go down. Its peaked now n will be goin back to 3.10-3.50 range....Unless they declare a dividend of more than 40cents....which means they need to make enough earnings per share to have a whoopin sh16billion to give away. Reason bein no matter how informed you and i are..over 90% investors don't give a hoot even if mj strikes a gold mine..no matter how smart they pretend to be..sharing notes on p/e n stuff. Look what happens to banks after results. Am convinced BBK after a market thrashin to 43 and Equity n kcb's fall after results..,is havin hard time thinking to release or not. As i used to say befor i met the Saviour...' s*¤^t..!!... But i won't say it..

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McReggae
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:47:00 PM
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I think it will peak somewhere on thursday or friday!!

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