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Man u 4 City 3 at 96th min!!
Josey
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:57:00 PM
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I wonder when Man U will stop playing with the REFs and play good football,why did the ref ongeza 6mins to that game?



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#2 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:06:00 PM
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Because he(the Ref) was enjoying the derby dude!! it comes only twice a year in the premier league.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:32:00 PM
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Michael Owen of Manchester United used his foot to propel the ball over the line of the goal being defended by players representing Manchester City. This resulted in the awarding of a 'goal' to Manchester United. This goal was scored in 'time added on for injuries and stoppages',a period LENGTHENED by the caperings of the Welsh midget Bellamy after he scored what he wrongly believed would be the last goal of the game.

During the injury-and-stoppage-time period,players representing Manchester City were still free to propel the ball over the opposition's goal-line,but they did not.

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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:15:00 PM
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Bellamy scored on 89:54 and they celebrated upto 90:50 . That is 56 seconds add to that the 30 seconds for subbing anerson for Carrick that adds up to 1 min 30 seconds plus the 4 min. WHATS THE PROBLEM?

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mypesa
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:27:00 PM
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a good derby it was ...united proved samthing to city ...they arent there yet. united goals were out of hard fight though. city goals all due to individual united mistakes (good thing united players dont have blame...good team spirit)

about added time I BELIVE THE 6 MINS were added to both teams,UNITED had more hunger for goals. ''theatre of Dreams'''




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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:34:00 PM
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The ref was under strict instructions to only stop the game when Man U scored.

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#7 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2009 2:13:00 PM
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fact...

in this forum....

there are more Man U haters....

than there are...

Man City lovers....

noise-makers....... wont be surprised if they were Arse-nal lovers....

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mlefu
#8 Posted : Monday, September 21, 2009 5:20:00 PM
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Manchester united wins this seasons EPL and the 'asili' WEnger was talking of will arise..

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ach ach
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:46:00 AM
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' a small team with asmall mentalitty'

said Sir Alex


ach ach
KulaRaha
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:58:00 AM
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• Guardian study shows added time to turn round home games

• Owen won derby after an extra five minutes and 26 seconds

By Daniel Taylor



Sir Alex Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do,as suspected,benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.



After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby,the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that,on average,there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes,compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead,the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.



The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield,the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds,compared to Liverpool's 210sec,Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers,players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total,the referee,Martin Atkinson,allowed almost seven minutes,even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes,the City manager,spoke of feeling 'robbed'. His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.



In 2006-07,for example,United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater,Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.



The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday,Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.


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Engine
#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:52:00 AM
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The bottom line is Manu got all 3 points. It is usually painful to lose this way...ask Bayern Munich class of 1999 Champions league final. They were snatched a win in extra time through two quick goals from Manu. That's football. Do you remember Capello warning Enland about complacency in the final minutes of any match,well that is what Mark Hughs forgot to tell his boys. Instead he was busy looking at his watch.

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ach ach
#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:31:00 AM
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After the 90th min manc equaliser did the no of their players cum down,was the man u goal post carried away like the cck advert,did anything happen which would have given the mighty man u undue advavtage.simply put both teams had the chance to go for the other and honestly the better team of the day did exactly that and won.Guys infact for the good of the game the best team won fairly and squarely izo zingine ni upumbavu tu.

ach ach
MADE
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:58:00 AM
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.....Juz wondering loudly; is it that Mancity now has a legion of fans or are these merely Manu haters,usual suspects?
It's never over until the last whistle....when will the haters learn this? A team plays to win but not for a draw the way Mancity played. They played good futbol whenever they were down but resorted to defensive play when level.....and that was their undoing which cost them dearly. We outclassed them in midfield and that's where the game was won. We gave them two easy goals but played on without grumbling the way Toure and Richards always did.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:12:00 PM
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FACTS:-Bellamy scored at 89:55,four minutes were signaled. Play restarted at 91:01 (1:06 time wasted). Sub (30 seconds). That gave both teams a total of 1:36 over the original four,and Owen scored at 95:28 (ie 8 seconds short of this),FACT.!!

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:26:00 PM
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This discussion of whether the ref added 4 or 7 seven minutes is stale...

Point is which team was hungry for a win....

Mancity would have been happy with a draw,United would have been utterly

disapointed.

Throughtout the second half,the blue half of Manchester chose to defend,the

Reddevils chose to step on the gas peddle...

In any soccer matches if you are keen,any team that goes on a defence always

breaks apart,hence the reason why the like of Chelski have been winning matches in

a row lately...Besides in my circle of friends I don't know of any mancity supporters,

Do we already have some Arsenal supporters that have crossed over?

Go united Go

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:28:00 PM
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What a game,dear chaps,what a game...

I was all alone a in pub full of Manu haters...

what a see-saw... One minute I'm cheering wildly,next minute the whole crowd is in my face....

Lakini,it ain't over until the fat lady sings,afterwards niliachwa kwa pub pekee yangu...
McReggae
#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:52:00 PM
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I belong to the red side of Manchester!!!!!

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#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06:00 PM
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@ Josey

In your opinion the game deserved approximately how many minutes of added time.I have some contacts there and i can register your concern.....

Arsenal fans supporting MANC's....that sounds funny as wounds are still fresh.

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Josey
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:50:00 PM
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@ kula raha that was a good post i will refer it to

@mali ya nguvu and @ikonini.


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#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:25:00 AM
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Anyone was free to score even man city....it aint like man u had unfair advantage...nope everyone was frre to score so the team with hunger n drive got it...

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