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Property Auctions - Making a Killing.
LimuruBoy
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:22:00 AM
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When I was home last Dec,I attended a real estate auction held by Garam Auctioneers in an office near Kenyatta market shopping center. A 3 bedroom house in Greenfields estate which I conservatively valued at 4 million,was bought for 2.8 million. Anaa 3 acre shamba in Nakuru sitting on a road kabisa was auctioned for 130k....both of these loans were owned by barclays. I'm smelling big profits in this biz.

Is there anyone who has experienced buying properties at such auctions? Are they straight deals as far as getting titles ama ni kupigana na the former owners? Any insight from guys who've actually done this???

'All they see is my glory...they don't know my pain. Nothing good comes easy in life.' - Multibillionaire Nelson Muguku Njoroge
simonkabz
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:13:00 AM
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My conscience wouldnt allow me to do so...

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money maker
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44:00 AM
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The crazy thing about property or land auctions in Kenya is that most people view it as immoral.To me that's utter nonsense.If you lose your home because you did not pay your loan,then why should you be upset with me for buying the house from the bank.I am always discouraged by my family and friends from buying this properties. They keep saying that owners will have me killed.Yet i know guys who have plots and houses from this auctions with no issues.The law states as soon as the hammer comes down and you have the highest bid the deal is final.Go ahead and buy .


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VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:04:00 AM
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Would you buy shares at a LOWER price? Then why not buy a property?

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
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kanyimwa
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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in fact the NSE share sale is a good example of the auction similar to what Limuruboy is describing. Why then would you wait for shares to fall so that you buy? The only difference comes about because for shares you never get to know who cleaned you out. Ukipata nyumba ama shamba inauzwa,nunua.

Disclaimer: Never buy your neighbour's auctioned property. It will haunt you forever especially if they become destitute. Otherwise,no emotional attachment involved.

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Kesh money
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:52:00 AM
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Hey guyz whea r these auctions taking place av always been interested.any1 ...pliz give me info.. Having said that,the tricky bit in Kenya always comes to the issue of title deeds. If you get the land and you're able to get a clean title deed then i don't see why not. If one can not jipanga when it comes to loan then its not your fault when you buy the land from the bank.

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Sasha
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:23:00 AM
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@Kesh Money: Check any paper, any day!

The reason why these properties go for such low prices is because the bank has reached a point where they accept it is better to get something than nothing. An auction is a quick way to recover what is owed but unfortunately the realisation is very low. This is because once you advertise an auction and the hammer falls, you have to sell at the highest bidded price. Open market bidding usually realises higher returns since you can always tell the interested parties to review their bids using a determined reserve price as a basis.

My brothers normally visit these auctions to buy repossessed cars and they are making good money from them! Are they haunted by cashing in on the misfortune of others? Nope .... they are actually living large! Can't begrudge them that!


Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time!
Kaigangio
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:43:00 AM
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Although auctioning other peoples property over bank loans or guarantees is considered kind of immoral in kenyan set up,the real issue lies in the form/status that the previous owners are left in. In the past,there were only few cases,but nowadays there are so many auctions around that they are now becoming a normal way of life or another type of clean business to the people with or without money...

the only problem with the auctioned property is if the previous owner has enough musscle to sustain an injunction in court....it becomes a night mare to the buyer...


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...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Sasha
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:53:00 AM
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@Gizzard

Small correction but educate me if I'm wrong. If the previous owner can obtain an injunction, it would be to stop the auctioneer from selling the property. Once the auctioneer is allowed to sell the property, there's little the previous owner can do to stop the transfer of title! Unless ofcourse he/she knows someone at Lands office!



Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time!
Juma
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:07:00 AM
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Skabz and anyone else bothered by conscience,look for houses that are defaulted but not on yet reached auction stage. Then give offers to owners - at less than or equal to market price.

You can get such contacts from the bank debt collection dept, bank debt collectors,lawyers,etc.
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