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Car: Forrester,Xtrail,Pajero io OR Freelander
popi
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:15:00 AM
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I need a 4WD with high clearance,but i dont have the money for the big ones line Prado or RAV4. Please advice me on the Models including consumption and maintenance.
McReggae
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:27:00 AM
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You classy Rav 4 with the big ones,huh! I wud pick the xtrail frm yua list!

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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:38:00 AM
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from ur list I'd go for the xtrail. however i'd throw in an ISUZU WIZARD and NISSAN TRIBUTE in the comparison list. anyone with first hand experience with the WIZARD?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:42:00 AM
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Why not include Honda CR-V in ur search?

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Iganamagana
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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Dont touch the Freelander (especially the 2001-2002 models). Too many problems and the parts/service are expensive. Test drive one (long distance) or get stuck in Thika Road jams and it feels like driving a tractor. I would not recomend it to my worst enemy. My experience however is with the 2001 model and they could have improved on the subsequent models.

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Chaka
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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@sithlord,

Nissan Tribute or Mazda Tribute?Another small 4X4 is the Suzuki though I know nothing about it.
sithlord
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:05:00 AM
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@chaka
mazda thnks..
andycapp
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:07:00 AM
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Xtrail.
Dont touch the freelander or the Pajero IO,they are both useless.
Forrester,i cant say but resale is v v bad.
Sasha
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:12:00 AM
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xtrail any day!

Is a Forester a 4x4?


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Mr.Tea
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:43:00 AM
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Forester any day.Nissan Xtrail have too many fatal accidents. First of all,they are very fast vehicles made of very light materials(Fibre glass at the front) Word has it that they were withdrawn from the presidential escort for killing many a president men. Witnessed a few accidents myself.
@ Sasha,yes,Forester is a safer 4x4,and a fast one too.
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mutuemilio
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:46:00 AM
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how is the performance of toyota Cami 4x4,I really like this car
Sasha
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:53:00 AM
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@Mr.Tea: Really? Didn't know that! Many of my buddies with Foresters say they would never repeat the mistake of buying one. Only one says he loves his, which is a turbo, but thats because he's a speed demon.

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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:59:00 AM
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Iganamagana - maybe the earlier years had issues. Try Freelander 2004. Love it and would not exchange it for any of the others above.

And maybe it is just me but the Forrester does not look aesthetic at all. (Yeah I consider looks too).

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Mr.Tea
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:00:00 PM
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@Sasha,What reason do they give for it? I know its a little heavy on the fuel(not exceptionally),other than that dunno much else about the car.

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Sasha
#15 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:06:00 PM
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@Mr.Tea: Thats their main beef i.e. fuel! Then it is too low. If you put heavy duty 7-coil springs, it becomes unstable. And also for 1800/2000cc, it shouldn't really be that heavy. That thing is nearly as heavy (if not heavier) as the Xtrail!


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Mr.Tea
#16 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:18:00 PM
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@Sasha,Thanks for the info.

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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:52:00 PM
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X-trail iis an excellent car,recently got a manual .. a very spacious,practical vehicle with above average performance,fuel consumption is better than the range of 4 x 4's mentioned and fair on maintaince ...

As for safety,got front and side airbags,pretty light body too as mentioned but its all about how u handle it ....


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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:54:00 PM
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My 2 cents

I list them Below in Order of Prefference. (from a car dealers point of view)

1. From that List i would take Forester. Take the 2002 Model SG5 Grade. In this one the Turbo has a better fuel economy that the non turbo in long distance. And the Turbo mechanism is perfect. Speed and stability is assured and the car looks better than the older model. Would Cost you Approx 1-1.2M

2. Xtrail. 2002 Model isnt bad. But stability is inferior. Body shape and extras are good. Price 1.1-1.3M

3. Pajero IO. Okay car. Dont expect so much also. Price 1M

4. Freelander. 2002 model and below has problems. So you will have to pick a higher model like 2004 to get a good car. The 2004 Model is excellent.

i hear someone talk od Mazda tribute. Id keep of that cause of the newness of the model. Wait until you see several on the road meaning spares will be more available. Price range 800K
tuvok
#19 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:51:00 PM
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Google around as well - there's some website I'd seen comparing these four - X-Trail,CRV,RAV4 and Forester. I'm not sure which came out tops but it was dependent on the terrain and the use the vehicle was put to.

The X-Trail is about 1400kg so about the same weight as the Subaru.

Beware there's a GT version of the X-Trail and several non turbo modifications

Power wise for the 2002 models

X-Trail - 147 bhp
X-Trail GT - 276 bhp
Forester SG5 X20 - 134 bhp
Forester SG5 XT & SG5 Cross Sport - 216 bhp
RAV4 (not too sure of this) - should be 2 editions: i think 2L and 1.8L (149 bhp and 123 bhp)

Not sure about Freelanders - but there was a top gear review for these that really rubbished the first freelander and the same guys have some positive reviews for the freelander 2. I would worry about costs

The other thing I would look at is petrol vs diesel (option of Turbo Diesel).

There's also the ISUZU BIGHORN which some friends of mine recently purchased and are giving positive reviews.
popi
#20 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:21:00 PM
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Thanks guys for this insight. From whats emerging,its like:-

1. Forrester - Hard Terrain
2. Xtrail - Could be better for Town areas
3. io - not much to talk about
4. Frelander - Not very clear,but avoid earlier versions.
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