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WPP ScanGroup Plc FY 2019
Receptor
#81 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2021 8:27:48 PM
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McGill wrote:
Receptor wrote:
What if the former CEO has been pimping the cash position? What if WPP Scangroup balance sheet is totally different from what has been posted in the past? What if the equity of the firm is significantly lower than what has been reported?


Possible. Just last year that German company called Wirecard was discovered to have an imaginary $2 billion cash in its books. And that is in a country that is supposedly with better financial markets oversight. Very possible.



31st August 2021 will be a day to behold....A buying price of sub-4 is worth the risk. Its either you eat or be eaten
cyruskulei
#82 Posted : Friday, August 20, 2021 11:18:52 AM
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Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:
Receptor wrote:
What if the former CEO has been pimping the cash position? What if WPP Scangroup balance sheet is totally different from what has been posted in the past? What if the equity of the firm is significantly lower than what has been reported?


Possible. Just last year that German company called Wirecard was discovered to have an imaginary $2 billion cash in its books. And that is in a country that is supposedly with better financial markets oversight. Very possible.



31st August 2021 will be a day to behold....A buying price of sub-4 is worth the risk. Its either you eat or be eaten


Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

McGill
#83 Posted : Friday, August 20, 2021 11:42:47 AM
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cyruskulei wrote:
Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:
[quote=Receptor]What if the former CEO has been pimping the cash position? What if WPP Scangroup balance sheet is totally different from what has been posted in the past? What if the equity of the firm is significantly lower than what has been reported?


Possible. Just last year that German company called Wirecard was discovered to have an imaginary $2 billion cash in its books. And that is in a country that is supposedly with better financial markets oversight. Very possible.



31st August 2021 will be a day to behold....A buying price of sub-4 is worth the risk. Its either you eat or be eaten


Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.
VituVingiSana
#84 Posted : Friday, August 20, 2021 2:20:44 PM
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cyruskulei wrote:
Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:
Receptor wrote:
What if the former CEO has been pimping the cash position? What if WPP Scangroup balance sheet is totally different from what has been posted in the past? What if the equity of the firm is significantly lower than what has been reported?


Possible. Just last year that German company called Wirecard was discovered to have an imaginary $2 billion cash in its books. And that is in a country that is supposedly with better financial markets oversight. Very possible.



31st August 2021 will be a day to behold....A buying price of sub-4 is worth the risk. Its either you eat or be eaten


Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal



As a buyer 2>4 any time! Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Receptor
#85 Posted : Friday, August 20, 2021 2:59:53 PM
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McGill wrote:

Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.


hehehehe.....the bad news is being priced-in. The muhindis have been cooking books all along. However, sub-2 is worth the risk.
Metch
#86 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2021 11:24:52 AM
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Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:

Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.


hehehehe.....the bad news is being priced-in. The muhindis have been cooking books all along. However, sub-2 is worth the risk.

We are in murky waters. Not even a profit warning?!
If the news is as bad as feared- some people should be looking at jail time.
Start!
maka
#87 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2021 2:10:12 PM
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Metch wrote:
Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:

Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.


hehehehe.....the bad news is being priced-in. The muhindis have been cooking books all along. However, sub-2 is worth the risk.

We are in murky waters. Not even a profit warning?!
If the news is as bad as feared- some people should be looking at jail time.


Not in Kenya my friend... Slap on the wrist from CMA as usual. The CMA that Dande is having a field day with taking them round in circles...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
possunt quia posse videntur
littledove
#88 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2021 3:08:50 PM
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maka wrote:
Metch wrote:
Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:

Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.


hehehehe.....the bad news is being priced-in. The muhindis have been cooking books all along. However, sub-2 is worth the risk.

We are in murky waters. Not even a profit warning?!
If the news is as bad as feared- some people should be looking at jail time.


Not in Kenya my friend... Slap on the wrist from CMA as usual. The CMA that Dande is having a field day with taking them round in circles...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

may be alot of siphoning happened, remember imperial bank, nakummat, arm etc they were all providing financial results regularly as required by law and by look of thing everything was very ok
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
Ericsson
#89 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2021 4:40:18 PM
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maka wrote:
Metch wrote:
Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:

Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.


hehehehe.....the bad news is being priced-in. The muhindis have been cooking books all along. However, sub-2 is worth the risk.

We are in murky waters. Not even a profit warning?!
If the news is as bad as feared- some people should be looking at jail time.


Not in Kenya my friend... Slap on the wrist from CMA as usual. The CMA that Dande is having a field day with taking them round in circles...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


CMA died a long time ago,you are on your own in the NSE
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Metch
#90 Posted : Wednesday, August 25, 2021 5:27:01 PM
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Location: Mombasa, Kenya
Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
Metch wrote:
Receptor wrote:
McGill wrote:

Sub 4.0 is here with us. I think sub 2.0 could be a better deal


Sad situation.


hehehehe.....the bad news is being priced-in. The muhindis have been cooking books all along. However, sub-2 is worth the risk.

We are in murky waters. Not even a profit warning?!
If the news is as bad as feared- some people should be looking at jail time.


Not in Kenya my friend... Slap on the wrist from CMA as usual. The CMA that Dande is having a field day with taking them round in circles...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


CMA died a long time ago,you are on your own in the NSE

So sad. Anyway, in a few days we'll see the latest acrobatics. Maybe even another delay. No one fears no one
Start!
littledove
#91 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:24:59 PM
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3.50! foreigners are exiting in numbers
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
VyaBureSiachi
#92 Posted : Tuesday, August 31, 2021 4:36:09 PM
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Today was d-day, what happened? Anyone with info?
If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky that would be like the splendour of the mighty one.
VituVingiSana
#93 Posted : Tuesday, August 31, 2021 5:38:53 PM
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VyaBureSiachi wrote:
Today was d-day, what happened? Anyone with info?

Not yet midnight Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#94 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2021 5:56:20 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
VyaBureSiachi wrote:
Today was d-day, what happened? Anyone with info?

Not yet midnight Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Loss from continued operations ksh.1.7bn
Profit for the year ksh.382.8mn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VyaBureSiachi
#95 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2021 8:02:22 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
VyaBureSiachi wrote:
Today was d-day, what happened? Anyone with info?

Not yet midnight Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Loss from continued operations ksh.1.7bn
Profit for the year ksh.382.8mn

Thanks. Bad but not entirely terrible. I was expecting a restatement of previous years.
If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky that would be like the splendour of the mighty one.
Receptor
#96 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2021 8:36:56 AM
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VyaBureSiachi wrote:

Thanks. Bad but not entirely terrible. I was expecting a restatement of previous years.


The muhindis have been vindicated. When is Half year 2021 results due?
VituVingiSana
#97 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2021 6:08:22 PM
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VyaBureSiachi wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
VyaBureSiachi wrote:
Today was d-day, what happened? Anyone with info?

Not yet midnight Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Loss from continued operations ksh.1.7bn
Profit for the year ksh.382.8mn

Thanks. Bad but not entirely terrible. I was expecting a restatement of previous years.
The "loss" seems primarily related to write downs of acquisitions which is understandable in this economic environment. We have seen FV losses for many firms including Centum.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Magnetic Touch
#98 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2021 2:45:06 PM
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@VVS, the market seems to have digested the news and has been sufficiently reassured.
Elephant Man
#99 Posted : Thursday, September 09, 2021 10:41:37 AM
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Is a share buy-back loading as is currently happening with WPP stock on London's Stock Exchange?

Or a buy-out and delisting of minorities as they did in Australia earlier this year?
VituVingiSana
#100 Posted : Friday, September 10, 2021 8:38:52 PM
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Elephant Man wrote:
Is a share buy-back loading as is currently happening with WPP stock on London's Stock Exchange?

Or a buy-out and delisting of minorities as they did in Australia earlier this year?
Eitehr way, Thakrar is winning! His stake is up 40% since the results were announced.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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