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lochaz-index
#41 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:50:49 PM
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FASTEST 20% DROP IN THE DOW IN HISTORY



Now market demands Fed to cut rates by a whooping 75 basis points next week and if they do,rates will be at 25 to 50 basis points.Fed currently doing the fastest rate of liquidity injection in history via the repo market.There is now some discussion that Fed just goes ahead and directly buys stocks and corporate bonds in a US corporate bond market thats freezing up

Bank of England cut rates by 50 basis points to reach a measly 25 basis points

European Central Bank expected to cut rates even more negative tomorrow.its currently at minus 0.5% which is ridiculous but will cut more and inject even more liquidity bigger than they have ever done and buy more government and corporate bonds

Peoples Bank of China also doing repo liquidity injections like crazy

Bank of Japan is actively buying stocks via purchasing ETFs.

And it seems to be getting much worse hell but a short sellers heaven


I think the selling of the Dow is overdone. Too fast too soon. Only holding one short position which I'm looking to close before the week ends. Scouting for long plays which will probably be fast and furious as the tanking that preceeded it. Europe and Japan comprise my main short positions as I don't expect them to survive a recession. My advice is stay away from bonds entirely.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
slick
#42 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:56:23 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
FASTEST 20% DROP IN THE DOW IN HISTORY



Now market demands Fed to cut rates by a whooping 75 basis points next week and if they do,rates will be at 25 to 50 basis points.Fed currently doing the fastest rate of liquidity injection in history via the repo market.There is now some discussion that Fed just goes ahead and directly buys stocks and corporate bonds in a US corporate bond market thats freezing up

Bank of England cut rates by 50 basis points to reach a measly 25 basis points

European Central Bank expected to cut rates even more negative tomorrow.its currently at minus 0.5% which is ridiculous but will cut more and inject even more liquidity bigger than they have ever done and buy more government and corporate bonds

Peoples Bank of China also doing repo liquidity injections like crazy

Bank of Japan is actively buying stocks via purchasing ETFs.

And it seems to be getting much worse hell but a short sellers heaven


The Central banks should not intervene in the markets.
The markets will self correct themselves.


@Ericsson.Yes,ideally in free markets central banks shouldn't intervene but central banks have been intervening perpetually in markets making problems far worse.These market bailouts and liquidity injections make problems far worse as any liquidity injection just creates more debt.If you research the current fiat debt based fractional reserve banking monetary system,all money is created from debt.If you think banks make loans from customer deposits then you are clearly duped.The banks create money from nothing and loan out at interest expands the money supply to ridiculous levels.No fiat debt based system has ever survived and all fiat currencies collapse to zero value.100% guarantee perfect record of fiat collapse throughout history.From Ancient Greece,Roman Empire,Chinese dynasties,1770s USA to Weinmar Germany,Zimbabwe,Venezuela all fiat currencies implode.Its highly possible the current Western style fiat system will unravel in similar fashion.

All boom and burst cycles are caused by central banks.The 1929 crash,the dotcom burst,the 2008 real estate crash and all other US recessions were all caused by the Fed.Central banks will intervene and print vast money to save the system and inevitably wont work and may cause hyperinflation.

Central banks cant just keep creating money from nothing to bailout failing institutions.These firms should be allowed to fail and clean out the excesses.16% of firms in the S&P 500 are zombie companies kept alive by Fed cheap money and should be allowed to collapse.The entire US shale oil industry should just be allowed to fail as their business model is unsustainable as their oil production costs are higher then oil prices.In 2008,all the Wall Street Banks should have allowed to fail even JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs as they duped investors with subprime loans and bogus Mortgage Backed Securities and Collateralized Debt Obligation (CDO) derivatives.It was a criminal act that these banks did during the housing bubble and should have been allowed to collapse but were bailed out and are now engaged in even more criminal excess in the corporate bond market.They should all fail then system starts afresh with more honest institutions.The collapse will be painful but its like a drug addict should suffer a painful weaning off drugs for longer term gain but central banks just keep pumping more monetary heroin.Inevitably the financial drug addict will overdose and it seems the financial system has reached that inflection point

Boom and burst cycle extends beyond the existence of central banks. CBs happen to be the perfect boogeymen for this gig since they've taken credit for the boom, the blame for the burst will also be theirs. It is a case of the tail wagging the dog.


Spot on @lochaz-index.They create bubbles with their cheap money printing policies that inevitably burst and to "solve the burst" they create even more money for bailout creating an even bigger bubble that also burst and print even more and create a subsequent larger bubble that bursts.Dotcom bubble was created by Fed easy money policies and when it burst,they printed even more money that created the housing bubble that also burst and to mitigate the housing bubble they created trillions for bailouts now causing the biggest bubble in history thats now unravelling.Dont believe me,listen to Scott Minerd, Guggenheim Partners co-founder and Guggenheim Global chief investment officer speak at Bloomberg of this central bank bubble blowing shenanigans and calls the markets a ponzi scheme.Guggenheim Partners is one of the largest global investment and advisory financial services firm with 270 billion USD of assets under management so he is a guy to take seriously




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slick
#43 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:19:57 PM
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US STOCK FUTURES TRADING HALTED AFTER HITTING 5% LIMIT DOWN.MARKET EXPECTED TO OPEN DOWN 7% HITTING CIRCUIT BREAKER SECOND TIME THIS WEEK THUS HALT TRADING FOR 15 MINUTES




This is just unprecedented in history.Things are THICKSad Sad Sad

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slick
#44 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:33:16 PM
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US STOCK TRADING HALTED FOR 15 MINUTES AFTER MARKET FALLS 7%.SECOND TIME THIS WEEK
Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad




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slick
#45 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 5:38:18 PM
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slick wrote:
US STOCK TRADING HALTED FOR 15 MINUTES AFTER MARKET FALLS 7%.SECOND TIME THIS WEEK
Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad







Europe also imploding




https://www.cnbc.com/202...opean-travel-to-us.html
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rwitre
#46 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:23:55 PM
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$500,000,000,000

Yes. That's USD.

Being printed.

"On March 12, 2020, the Desk will offer $500 billion in a three-month repo operation at 1:30 pm ET that will settle on March 13, 2020."

We're watching a liquidity crisis in real time.
slick
#47 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:35:00 PM
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rwitre wrote:
$500,000,000,000

Yes. That's USD.

Being printed.

"On March 12, 2020, the Desk will offer $500 billion in a three-month repo operation at 1:30 pm ET that will settle on March 13, 2020."

We're watching a liquidity crisis in real time.



Just pump the money.Just print the $$$$$$ and dump into the marketLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly .We dont hyperinflate since we are the reserve currency and sole superpower.Stocks briefly rebound then start to sell off again.

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wukan
#48 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:56:33 PM
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This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!
slick
#49 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:06:42 PM
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wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.


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slick
#50 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:27:37 PM
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slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic
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lochaz-index
#51 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:36:40 PM
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rwitre wrote:
$500,000,000,000

Yes. That's USD.

Being printed.

"On March 12, 2020, the Desk will offer $500 billion in a three-month repo operation at 1:30 pm ET that will settle on March 13, 2020."

We're watching a liquidity crisis in real time.

The fed has been trying to fend off the liquity crisis since September last year to no avail. There appears to be both horizontal and vertical collapse of overnight lending between banks which is now becoming systemic. Since US banks recapitalized after the financial crisis of 2008 and haven't had their capital buffers obliterated by negative interest rates it is curious where this pressure is coming from. The size of the repo action suggests very big banks are in trouble. My guess is European banks with subsidiaries in the US. The fact that the ECB didn't cut rates is indicative of the pain negative interest rates are inflicting on the banking sector and by extension the economy. ECB and BOJ are in a pickle...they can't ease on rates, monetary engineering isn't of much help in this type of crisis and there is no room for fiscal stimulus (sales tax hike for Japan cratered the economy and EU has a brexit sized budget hole to plug). The amount of the repo cash that eventually makes it to the market isn't significant unlike QE.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
slick
#52 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 11:28:56 PM
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slick wrote:
slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



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slick
#53 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 6:44:17 AM
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FED 1.5 TRILLION LIQUIDITY PUMP JOB FAILS.GLOBAL MARKETS CONTINUE TO TANK



S&P 500 dropped 9.51% yesterday.US Dow stock futures down 652 today already.In today's trading,Japan's Nikkei is down 7.97%,Australian market down 8%,South Korea down 7.86% as I write this.Asian market action today a harbinger of the disaster that may engulf US markets today when it opens.

Now some in the US are talking of its citizens to stop paying taxes entirely as a bailout.Then there are others who subscribe to the ludicrous policy called Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) where the government just prints all the money needed to finance all their operations.No need to tax people.Zimbabwe and Venezuela style banana republic shenanigans




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slick
#54 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 6:50:38 AM
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slick wrote:
FED 1.5 TRILLION LIQUIDITY PUMP JOB FAILS.GLOBAL MARKETS CONTINUE TO TANK



S&P 500 dropped 9.51% yesterday.US Dow stock futures down 652 today already.In today's trading,Japan's Nikkei is down 7.97%,Australian market down 8%,South Korea down 7.86% as I write this.Asian market action today a harbinger of the disaster that may engulf US markets today when it opens.

Now some in the US are talking of its citizens to stop paying taxes entirely as a bailout.Then there are others who subscribe to the ludicrous policy called Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) where the government just prints all the money needed to finance all their operations.No need to tax people.Zimbabwe and Venezuela style banana republic shenanigans




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Trump wants to eliminate payroll taxes


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wukan
#55 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 10:28:50 AM
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300 years ago in 1720 it was the South Sea bubble burst. As Sir Isaac Newton observed "I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men"

CBs are promising unlimited liquidity, short-selling bans galore. Markets starting to calm down.
slick
#56 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 10:41:46 AM
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wukan wrote:

300 years ago in 1720 it was the South Sea bubble burst. As Sir Isaac Newton observed "I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men"

CBs are promising unlimited liquidity, short-selling bans galore. Markets starting to calm down.


Haha.In the last 2 hours of trading Asian markets sharply rebounded and closed less deeply in the red.First world CBs pumping the money like crazy

Also Dow futures reversed from 650 down to 830 up as I write this.Volatility is insane.

US Treasury Markets breaking down.No offers on the 30-year bond.That has never happened in history so Fed had to step in





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lochaz-index
#57 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 11:47:37 AM
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wukan wrote:

300 years ago in 1720 it was the South Sea bubble burst. As Sir Isaac Newton observed "I can calculate the movement of the stars, but not the madness of men"

CBs are promising unlimited liquidity, short-selling bans galore. Markets starting to calm down.

Mixed day for Asia, Europe is mostly in the green as will the US when it opens. After the biggest sell day for Europe and the US a bounce is in order before selling resumes next week if the weekend doesn't offer constructive news. CBs are dancing themselves lame before the main dance.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
amorphous
#58 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 12:36:02 PM
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Slick,
Flee collapsing usa before tis too late bro.
Hata sisi tulikuwanga huko wallstreeting kama wewe until we realised the game was rigged through and through.
Tulikuwa tunasoma WSJ and charts daily soooooooo on the train into Manhattan kila siku pia.
Come home we grow beans and build apartment complexes hapa. More money and safe too bila pata potea at the hands of the banksters at the Fed printing toilet paper daily.Thank.me.larra.
Age and family mellows us all over time
slick
#59 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 12:44:48 PM
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amorphous wrote:
Slick,
Flee collapsing usa before tis too late bro.
Hata sisi tulikuwanga huko wallstreeting kama wewe until we realised the game was rigged through and through.
Tulikuwa tunasoma WSJ and charts daily soooooooo on the train into Manhattan kila siku pia.
Come home we grow beans and build apartment complexes hapa. More money and safe too bila pata potea at the hands of the banksters at the Fed printing toilet paper daily.Thank.me.larra.


Haha.Why flee.In fact I am deep into US markets and even deeper now.I am SHORTING THE HELL OUT OF US STOCKS!Never have I made so much money investing than I have done in the last one month.I knew the Western markets were rigged many years ago and took advantage of it.I was mostly long when the bubble of central bank money printing was being pumped knowing it was all fake and was actually preparing for when the bubble would pop.Now I have changed my strategy to short all bounces and the $$$$$$ made is Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Far more money is made in bear markets than bull markets as bull markets slowly climb the stairs and bears jump off the window.One just have to understand the dynamics of Western markets and know how to play it.

I am in Kenya by the way.I wouldnt want to be in the West when this bubble pops
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slick
#60 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 1:15:28 PM
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slick wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Slick,
Flee collapsing usa before tis too late bro.
Hata sisi tulikuwanga huko wallstreeting kama wewe until we realised the game was rigged through and through.
Tulikuwa tunasoma WSJ and charts daily soooooooo on the train into Manhattan kila siku pia.
Come home we grow beans and build apartment complexes hapa. More money and safe too bila pata potea at the hands of the banksters at the Fed printing toilet paper daily.Thank.me.larra.


Haha.Why flee.In fact I am deep into US markets and even deeper now.I am SHORTING THE HELL OUT OF US STOCKS!Never have I made so much money investing than I have done in the last one month.I knew the Western markets were rigged many years ago and took advantage of it.I was mostly long when the bubble of central bank money printing was being pumped knowing it was all fake and was actually preparing for when the bubble would pop.Now I have changed my strategy to short all bounces and the $$$$$$ made is Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Far more money is made in bear markets than bull markets as bull markets slowly climb the stairs and bears jump off the window.One just have to understand the dynamics of Western markets and know how to play it.

I am in Kenya by the way.I wouldnt want to be in the West when this bubble pops


As long US investors lose billions daily,billionaire short investors like Ray Dalio,Paul Tudor Jones,Scott Minerd,Jeffrey Gundlach,Jim Chanos,Stanley Druckenmiller,Sam Zell,Carl Icahn and many others are raking many more billions right now.I dont listen to WSJ.I follow these contrarian investors.One shouldnt be surprised that the Wall Street Banks are making so much money shorting the market too.These punks go on TV shows,tell everyone to buy the market,get Fed liquidity to pump the market abit and sucker in naive retail investors then short the hell of the market leaving retail investors holding the bag.

Do you think JP Morgan (US largest commercial bank with an investment banking wing) Goldman Sachs (US largest investment bank) are losing money in this tanking market.HELL NO!They are the biggest shorts while suckering others to go long





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