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Angelica _ann
#901 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 8:01:18 PM
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thuks wrote:
Lolest! wrote:

That's like the number we lost in 2008 PEV over 3 monthsSad

Yuuge

Unimaginable! !


US with Trump's ujeuri should be doing better!!!
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masukuma
#902 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 8:17:25 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
thuks wrote:
Lolest! wrote:

That's like the number we lost in 2008 PEV over 3 monthsSad

Yuuge

Unimaginable! !


US with Trump's ujeuri should be doing better!!!

America FIRST Policy!! Trump must make sure they top every table.
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tycho
#903 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 8:48:31 PM
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I'd like to bring a critical matter to your attention, regarding these death stats:

1. It takes an average of 10-12 days before most serious cases end in death.

This means that this group of patients had been using the hospital facilities for 12 days.

2. We are likely to get thousands of new cases within a day

What does this mean? Decision on who to treat now becomes arbitrary, and the scene is unnerving and may hamper treatment efforts.

Interpretation: Covid-19 is a mass disease and requires a mass treatment. If you wait for people to report to hospital, then you will lose it!
tycho
#904 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 9:27:12 PM
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3. If 25% of the infected population can be asymptomatic, and patients come and die en mass, then we need a mass treatment of the entire population and close support for emergent symptomatic cases.

As such, I recommend that instead of mass testing, and mass lockdown, we think of mass treatment exercises that can go round the country severally, and within time spans as short as 2 weeks.

Such an approach that integrates what we have so far, is sure to flatten the curve perhaps beyond our imagination, and will set a good pace and context for the controlled herd immunization.
sqft
#905 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 10:11:02 PM
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Every man for himself. Germany accuses the US of stealing masks destined for Berlin. If the super powers (and donors) are stealing masks from each other, Kenya better make sure that local tailors and textile factories, including epz, make enough masks for Kenyans.

https://www.wsj.com/arti...rted-to-u-s-11585943440

Quote:
German officials have said a shipment of face masks destined for Germany was seized and diverted to the U.S. in an act of “modern piracy”—the latest accusation that the Trump administration is throwing its weight around in the global scramble to secure scarce protective equipment needed in the fight against coronavirus infections.


https://www.thestar.com....rus-face-masks-in-kenya

Quote:
German customs officials are attempting to track down about 6 million face masks ordered to protect health workers from the coronavirus which went missing at an airport in Kenya.

"The authorities are trying to find out what happened," said a defence ministry spokeswoman, confirming a report first published by Spiegel Online.

The FFP2 masks, which filter out more than 90% of particles, were ordered by German customs authorities. They and the armed forces procurement office have been helping the health ministry to get hold of urgently needed protective gear.

The shipment was due in Germany on March 20 but never arrived after disappearing at the end of last week at an airport in Kenya.
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sqft
#906 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 10:45:56 PM
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Sad that we are viewed as laboratory rats.


Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
madollar
#907 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 11:09:22 PM
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thuks wrote:
Lolest! wrote:

That's like the number we lost in 2008 PEV over 3 monthsSad

Yuuge

Unimaginable! !

All this without a single gunshot being fired or a military asset being deployed America and capitalism being stretched to the limits
Bigchick
#908 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 11:10:24 PM
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Surely we are living in interesting times.

Can you imagine the mighty America is relying on the Chinese for solutions on the current predicament.

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#909 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2020 11:27:15 PM
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https://citizentv.co.ke/...from-coronavirus-328280/
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sqft
#910 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:11:02 AM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#911 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:21:39 AM
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Botswana on 28 day lockdown. You need a permit from the police to go out of your house to buy milk or mandazi.




Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
jgithige
#912 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:29:46 AM
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Kama wangelijuwa these would have been channeled to medical

The United States just spent Two Trillion Dollars on Military Equipment. We are the biggest and by far the BEST in the World! If Iran attacks an American Base, or any American, we will be sending some of that brand new beautiful equipment their way...and without hesitation!
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murchr
#913 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 3:27:42 AM
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Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything
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Rahatupu
#914 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 3:44:07 AM
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murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything


I disagree, they donated only 18 tonnes of masks and PPE to China.
murchr
#915 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 7:34:10 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything


I disagree, they donated only 18 tonnes of masks and PPE to China.



And 18 tonnes is approximately how many masks and PPEs genius?
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Lolest!
#916 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 9:20:20 AM
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murchr wrote:
Why are we taking the US numbers as a weekness? The number just shows the capacity to test patients. The numbers also show that the majority of the patients are in NY and NJ. The 2 cities are major tourist destinations for Chinese and secondly their use of mass transportation accelerated the community spread. They are not struggling but overwhelmed. Also, the US donated most of its PPE to China in February, if only they knew what they know now.

Another thing, if you believe the Chinese numbers you are easily fooled. How countries handle wave 2 will determine everything

We are talking about number of deaths not number of positive cases
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#917 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 9:48:36 AM
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tycho wrote:
3. If 25% of the infected population can be asymptomatic, and patients come and die en mass, then we need a mass treatment of the entire population and close support for emergent symptomatic cases.

As such, I recommend that instead of mass testing, and mass lockdown, we think of mass treatment exercises that can go round the country severally, and within time spans as short as 2 weeks.

Such an approach that integrates what we have so far, is sure to flatten the curve perhaps beyond our imagination, and will set a good pace and context for the controlled herd immunization.


Yes . The government should abandon mass testing and focus on home treatments. They should invest on motorcycles with nurses or skilled volunteers who will go round delivering chloroquine and other essential meds. Mass quarantine facilities are just a breeding ground of more servere strains of the virus. Care should be taken at home even for the most servere cases. This is Africa. We don't have to follow the west.
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jgithige
#918 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 10:31:18 AM
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Corona virus is a wake up call to every country globally. This will greatly compel massive investments in the medical field both research and training. That if this current covic19 is contained
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T-Bag
#919 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 10:35:56 AM
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The PORK should declare war in Kenya. All desciplined forces should have enough thermoguns and a beyond zero like ambulances at every roadblock. Test at random, isolate, test-for-CoVid, quarantine and Treat
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mpobiz
#920 Posted : Sunday, April 05, 2020 10:37:34 AM
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T-Bag wrote:
The PORK should declare war in Kenya. All desciplined forces should have enough thermoguns and a beyond zero like ambulances at every roadblock. Test at random, isolate, test-for-CoVid, quarantine and Treat


https://news.yahoo.com/c...irus-test-162306412.html
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