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Shak
#1981 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:40:26 AM
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murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
Is'nt New York supposed to be the epicenter of COVID-19? Why did this happen?

I trust unajua kuSoma

Quote:

The makeshift hospital at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal was expected to open in April, but was not ready until May 4 – and is now being disbanded after being left unused, The City first reported.

“As part of our hospital surge, we expanded capacity at a breakneck speed, ensuring our hospital infrastructure would be prepared to handle the very worst. We did so only with a single-minded focus: saving lives,” de Blasio spokeswoman Avery Cohen told The Post Friday.

“Over the past few months, social distancing, face coverings, and other precautionary measures have flattened the curve drastically, and we remain squarely on focused taking that progress even further,” Cohen added.


New York flattened the curve and are reemerging from it...




The George Floyd protests are likely to see another surge in infections.
whiteowl
#1982 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:38:42 PM
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Shak wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
Is'nt New York supposed to be the epicenter of COVID-19? Why did this happen?

I trust unajua kuSoma

Quote:

The makeshift hospital at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal was expected to open in April, but was not ready until May 4 – and is now being disbanded after being left unused, The City first reported.

“As part of our hospital surge, we expanded capacity at a breakneck speed, ensuring our hospital infrastructure would be prepared to handle the very worst. We did so only with a single-minded focus: saving lives,” de Blasio spokeswoman Avery Cohen told The Post Friday.

“Over the past few months, social distancing, face coverings, and other precautionary measures have flattened the curve drastically, and we remain squarely on focused taking that progress even further,” Cohen added.


New York flattened the curve and are reemerging from it...




The George Floyd protests are likely to see another surge in infections.


Don't hold your breath.
radiomast
#1983 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2020 11:23:03 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
Is'nt New York supposed to be the epicenter of COVID-19? Why did this happen?


Overcapacity is not a bad thing. Its much better than undercapacity. They planned for the worst case. But they were able to flatten the curve so the extra hospital was not needed.
Lolest!
#1984 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:36:59 AM
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Bergamo, Italy

One day we will take this test too. Results could be higher than this
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More than half of Bergamo residents who submitted a blood sample tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, health authorities in the northern Italian city reported Monday.

Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.

https://www.google.com/a...ve-antibodies/a-53739727
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masukuma
#1985 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:10:27 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Bergamo, Italy

One day we will take this test too. Results could be higher than this
Quote:
More than half of Bergamo residents who submitted a blood sample tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, health authorities in the northern Italian city reported Monday.

Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.

https://www.google.com/a...e-antibodies/a-53739727

Unlikely- all cities that have had massive Covid cases that are visible for all to see have not even reached 60% yenu itazidi hiyo and have no sizable increase of complications based on what logic? Everyone who I know has suffered Covid - personally talked to tell me it’s tough but they survived and for some reason it passed through over 60% of us and was undetected? Forget that story of “bad homa in Dec/Jan/Feb” - no one I know who has had Covid said it was “homa” and they have had homa earlier.
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mpobiz
#1986 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:16:11 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Bergamo, Italy

One day we will take this test too. Results could be higher than this
Quote:
More than half of Bergamo residents who submitted a blood sample tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, health authorities in the northern Italian city reported Monday.

Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.

https://www.google.com/a...e-antibodies/a-53739727

Unlikely- all cities that have had massive Covid cases that are visible for all to see have not even reached 60% yenu itazidi hiyo and have no sizable increase of complications based on what logic? Everyone who I know has suffered Covid - personally talked to tell me it’s tough but they survived and for some reason it passed through over 60% of us and was undetected? Forget that story of “bad homa in Dec/Jan/Feb” - no one I know who has had Covid said it was “homa” and they have had homa earlier.


Are the people supposed to believe you , a novelist/ fiction writer or makufuli a PhD chemist?
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wukan
#1987 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:17:20 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Bergamo, Italy

One day we will take this test too. Results could be higher than this
Quote:
More than half of Bergamo residents who submitted a blood sample tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, health authorities in the northern Italian city reported Monday.

Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.

https://www.google.com/a...e-antibodies/a-53739727

Unlikely- all cities that have had massive Covid cases that are visible for all to see have not even reached 60% yenu itazidi hiyo and have no sizable increase of complications based on what logic? Everyone who I know has suffered Covid - personally talked to tell me it’s tough but they survived and for some reason it passed through over 60% of us and was undetected? Forget that story of “bad homa in Dec/Jan/Feb” - no one I know who has had Covid said it was “homa” and they have had homa earlier.


So do we believe you or the govt'?

Quote:
Seventy-eight per cent of all Covid-19 patients are asymptomatic and will be cared for at home, CAS Rashid Aman has said.

This comes to about 2,400 patients.

Speaking during the daily brief on Wednesday, Aman said the asymptomatic patients range from mild symptoms to none at all.

"These patients can be managed at home, provided procedures are followed. MOH has just launched home-based care guidelines available on the Ministry of Health portal," he said.

"It has been developed to provide a solution in the surge of coronavirus.. the guidelines dictate the procedures," he said.
https://www.the-star.co....me-based-care-cas-aman/

Bigchick
#1988 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:20:47 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Bergamo, Italy

One day we will take this test too. Results could be higher than this
Quote:
More than half of Bergamo residents who submitted a blood sample tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, health authorities in the northern Italian city reported Monday.

Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.

https://www.google.com/a...e-antibodies/a-53739727

Unlikely- all cities that have had massive Covid cases that are visible for all to see have not even reached 60% yenu itazidi hiyo and have no sizable increase of complications based on what logic? Everyone who I know has suffered Covid - personally talked to tell me it’s tough but they survived and for some reason it passed through over 60% of us and was undetected? Forget that story of “bad homa in Dec/Jan/Feb” - no one I know who has had Covid said it was “homa” and they have had homa earlier.



The more I try to forget the bad homa stories of Dec/Jan/Feb the more studies come up to prove it could have been it a d that COVID was around much earlier.

Some study in China has indicated that the virus could have been mangamangaring i China Wuhan from as early as August 2019.

Link

https://www.theguardian....n-august-study-suggests(AMA HAKA NI KA GUTTER PRESS KA HUKO?)

If thats true,then all this interventions will only be playing a small part since before Jan we had no protocols for management yet we did not see abnormal cases.
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masukuma
#1989 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 1:15:22 PM
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Let's assume it was floating around in China towards the end summer of 2019. Where increased number of people WITH CARS going to hospitals on certain days were all related to Covid. We know that the disease is a bit like a fire... it burns through a population until it's either done with the bodies to infect (Bergamo has 57% of their population with antibodies for Covid) or measures are put in place to choke it and snuff it out (New Zealand and otehr Islands have proven this well... they choked it and since no new cases came in) but for some reason it failed to show up under anyones radar until late December... 4-5 months later. Became a problem to countries that really really really trade with china in Feb, March (8 months later). Spectacular sicknesses. People not breathing. Big economies that trade with these people got the spectacle after about 8 months of August.
For some reason Kenya got it floating around in Dec, Jan, Feb as a 'homa' (considering Kenyans say 'homa' when they mean something that in addition to coughs amongst other symptoms is sneezing & running nose - which are really rear symptoms and our textbook definition of 'homa' does not have FEVER... the tell-tell symptom but lets forget that for now or loss of taste and smell). it came - hit those it hit and cleared. We went the Bergamo way but without lockdowns and any measures and it run out of fuel.)
We never exported it to like Rwanda or UG or anywhere else we go. Then the second group came - akina brenda group... it started spreading. initially our test samples were having a hit-rate of under 2% now as we hit the thousands we can see close to 10% hit rates WITHIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ACCESS TO PEOPLE WE RECENTLY KNOW HAD COVID.
For this whole story to be true it requires a number of things to line up
1) Kenyans are special people. We have some innate immunity to this new disease which we lose as soon as we board a flight out of the country (as of mid May - 30 Kenyans in the diaspora had croaked coz of Covid out of the 193 that had been recorded as cases). it hit big economies after 8 months but spared us.
2) We got herd immunity 30,000,000 of us got it but without an issue - but now is starting to move again but it is only hunting those that didn't get it first time OR People can catch the disease twice- Kenyans are proof because it swept through our shores as a 'bad homa' when we had 0 social distancing measures and it ended now its back again.


I know people wish the following to be true
1) We are a special people that somehow manifest this disease differently
2) We have been through this before and so it will not hurt us now

Where is no proof that the above is true. Are we manifesting the disease differently? I think we are! But our death rates are about 3% now... but if we look back do we ever see a situation when 3% of our population died on our march towards stopping covid in Jan,Feb,Mar when it came first time?
The mazematics does not add up!
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Bigchick
#1990 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:42:21 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Let's assume it was floating around in China towards the end summer of 2019. Where increased number of people WITH CARS going to hospitals on certain days were all related to Covid. We know that the disease is a bit like a fire... it burns through a population until it's either done with the bodies to infect (Bergamo has 57% of their population with antibodies for Covid) or measures are put in place to choke it and snuff it out (New Zealand and otehr Islands have proven this well... they choked it and since no new cases came in) but for some reason it failed to show up under anyones radar until late December... 4-5 months later. Became a problem to countries that really really really trade with china in Feb, March (8 months later). Spectacular sicknesses. People not breathing. Big economies that trade with these people got the spectacle after about 8 months of August.
For some reason Kenya got it floating around in Dec, Jan, Feb as a 'homa' (considering Kenyans say 'homa' when they mean something that in addition to coughs amongst other symptoms is sneezing & running nose - which are really rear symptoms and our textbook definition of 'homa' does not have FEVER... the tell-tell symptom but lets forget that for now or loss of taste and smell). it came - hit those it hit and cleared. We went the Bergamo way but without lockdowns and any measures and it run out of fuel.)
We never exported it to like Rwanda or UG or anywhere else we go. Then the second group came - akina brenda group... it started spreading. initially our test samples were having a hit-rate of under 2% now as we hit the thousands we can see close to 10% hit rates WITHIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ACCESS TO PEOPLE WE RECENTLY KNOW HAD COVID.
For this whole story to be true it requires a number of things to line up
1) Kenyans are special people. We have some innate immunity to this new disease which we lose as soon as we board a flight out of the country (as of mid May - 30 Kenyans in the diaspora had croaked coz of Covid out of the 193 that had been recorded as cases). it hit big economies after 8 months but spared us.
2) We got herd immunity 30,000,000 of us got it but without an issue - but now is starting to move again but it is only hunting those that didn't get it first time OR People can catch the disease twice- Kenyans are proof because it swept through our shores as a 'bad homa' when we had 0 social distancing measures and it ended now its back again.


I know people wish the following to be true
1) We are a special people that somehow manifest this disease differently
2) We have been through this before and so it will not hurt us now

Where is no proof that the above is true. Are we manifesting the disease differently? I think we are! But our death rates are about 3% now... but if we look back do we ever see a situation when 3% of our population died on our march towards stopping covid in Jan,Feb,Mar when it came first time?
The mazematics does not add up!



No Masukuma,we are not special but for sure this virus is manifesting diffetently in us......Kenyans and Africa as a whole.It has been kind to us this far and we thank God for that.

Yes we are taking care and following protocols given but the bright side of it is that we are infected mildly and we are healing.

And that is why we are baffling the West.


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masukuma
#1991 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:40:37 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Let's assume it was floating around in China towards the end summer of 2019. Where increased number of people WITH CARS going to hospitals on certain days were all related to Covid. We know that the disease is a bit like a fire... it burns through a population until it's either done with the bodies to infect (Bergamo has 57% of their population with antibodies for Covid) or measures are put in place to choke it and snuff it out (New Zealand and otehr Islands have proven this well... they choked it and since no new cases came in) but for some reason it failed to show up under anyones radar until late December... 4-5 months later. Became a problem to countries that really really really trade with china in Feb, March (8 months later). Spectacular sicknesses. People not breathing. Big economies that trade with these people got the spectacle after about 8 months of August.
For some reason Kenya got it floating around in Dec, Jan, Feb as a 'homa' (considering Kenyans say 'homa' when they mean something that in addition to coughs amongst other symptoms is sneezing & running nose - which are really rear symptoms and our textbook definition of 'homa' does not have FEVER... the tell-tell symptom but lets forget that for now or loss of taste and smell). it came - hit those it hit and cleared. We went the Bergamo way but without lockdowns and any measures and it run out of fuel.)
We never exported it to like Rwanda or UG or anywhere else we go. Then the second group came - akina brenda group... it started spreading. initially our test samples were having a hit-rate of under 2% now as we hit the thousands we can see close to 10% hit rates WITHIN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ACCESS TO PEOPLE WE RECENTLY KNOW HAD COVID.
For this whole story to be true it requires a number of things to line up
1) Kenyans are special people. We have some innate immunity to this new disease which we lose as soon as we board a flight out of the country (as of mid May - 30 Kenyans in the diaspora had croaked coz of Covid out of the 193 that had been recorded as cases). it hit big economies after 8 months but spared us.
2) We got herd immunity 30,000,000 of us got it but without an issue - but now is starting to move again but it is only hunting those that didn't get it first time OR People can catch the disease twice- Kenyans are proof because it swept through our shores as a 'bad homa' when we had 0 social distancing measures and it ended now its back again.


I know people wish the following to be true
1) We are a special people that somehow manifest this disease differently
2) We have been through this before and so it will not hurt us now

Where is no proof that the above is true. Are we manifesting the disease differently? I think we are! But our death rates are about 3% now... but if we look back do we ever see a situation when 3% of our population died on our march towards stopping covid in Jan,Feb,Mar when it came first time?
The mazematics does not add up!



No Masukuma,we are not special but for sure this virus is manifesting diffetently in us......Kenyans and Africa as a whole.It has been kind to us this far and we thank God for that.

Yes we are taking care and following protocols given but the bright side of it is that we are infected mildly and we are healing.

And that is why we are baffling the West.



Last year I came across a Rudiger Dornbusch quote
Quote:
Things take longer to happen than you think they will and then they happen faster than you think they will.

He meant economics but I am beginning to think it can be applied to Covid. Why do I say this? White people were wondering why India was not blowing up... remember? Remember when we were talking about BCG and its potential nexus with resisting this thing? we discussed it here...





now its upto 287,155. india was at 70,768 exactly 1 month ago they looked like they were handing the cases well. they are now posied to overtake UK by end of day today or tomorrow. the biggest issue we see with an increase of new cases is an increase of deaths in a week or two... coz death is a factor of the active cases. Will they be the next Brazil? I don't know but... yesterday they had the 4th highest daily number of deaths... its brewing...
In a summary - it started in China, Went to Europe, Took a swing at the Americans now is headed to latin and South America... and having a look at india. Africans have been given some leeway but all I can hear is WE ARE DIFFERENT. We are wondering when the spectacle will land here. Remember our cases are 78% asymptomatic and mild, 22% that will require hospitalization and about 3% have died... this is a small number when the numbers are low and once this number takes off - we shall have a beast on our hands. Let's IGNORE THE HARAKA YA WHITE PEOPLE... THEY FAILED ON THIS... WE ALL KNOW WHAT TO DO TO ADDRESS THIS - LET'S DO IT. this is a freaking Marathon.
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masukuma
#1992 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:08:57 PM
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Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...
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kaka2za
#1993 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:16:50 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


I think Kenyans are just weak. It could be a case of poor nutrition.
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masukuma
#1994 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:43:40 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


I think Kenyans are just weak. It could be a case of poor nutrition.

You may have a point... if you notice most people leave by the sea shore - access to fish (Omega 3 oils and Vitamin D)... In Kenya and South Africa most people live inland - less fish may be an aspect... but it's really too early in the process to assess this. Ugali + Sukuma wiki sioni vile inasaidia watu aje.
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mpobiz
#1995 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:42:40 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


This 7.8% is just one of your incredible miths. Your own government has admitted to poor testing capacity. Its now the 5th month since the tests begun. There is no need of mentioning the poor numbers. Furthermore testing achives nothing because it doesn't guarantee immunity no matter how careful you are. You can test negative and in an hour's you get infected.
What happened after kibra was mentioned as a hot spot? When the media stops reporting does it mean that the infections have stopped?
My simple estimates is that in this country we already have millions of infections. So as the clever man you are. The wise decision is to base the current number of the known deaths with my current estimate of the infected which is 3 million .
That will give you a better picture.
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#1996 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2020 4:09:04 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


I think Kenyans are just weak. It could be a case of poor nutrition.


I don't think poor nutrition is the issue or the only issue. When compared to deaths in Uganda, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Ghana with similar demographics it could be poor hospital case management
sqft
#1997 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2020 10:27:54 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


I think Kenyans are just weak. It could be a case of poor nutrition.


I don't think poor nutrition is the issue or the only issue. When compared to deaths in Uganda, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Ghana with similar demographics it could be poor hospital case management


90% of patients put on ventilators in the US died. What about that?

https://www.washingtonpo...us-ventilators-survival/
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sqft
#1998 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2020 10:55:43 AM
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masukuma wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


I think Kenyans are just weak. It could be a case of poor nutrition.

You may have a point... if you notice most people leave by the sea shore - access to fish (Omega 3 oils and Vitamin D)... In Kenya and South Africa most people live inland - less fish may be an aspect... but it's really too early in the process to assess this. Ugali + Sukuma wiki sioni vile inasaidia watu aje.


Sukuma wiki, spinach, eggs, meat, milk, nuts, beans, avocado etc are also known sources of omega 3, not only oily SEA fish [LINK1], [LINK2]. So taking ugali + masukuma/spinach will also help. Also vitamin D is got from the sun and the last time I checked we Africans live right on the equator where we get more vitamin D than anyone else.

Also who said that those who live inland don't eat fish? Go to any market or supermarket and you will find fish being sold, from omena to salmon. For instance I live inland and eat fish twice a week.

FYI hata blue band margarine is fortified with omega 3 and 6 so anyone taking their mkate na blue band in the morning is having their dose of omega 3.

So your argument about omega 3 and vitamin D deficiency is wrong.
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masukuma
#1999 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2020 2:46:24 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


This 7.8% is just one of your incredible miths. Your own government has admitted to poor testing capacity. Its now the 5th month since the tests begun. There is no need of mentioning the poor numbers. Furthermore testing achives nothing because it doesn't guarantee immunity no matter how careful you are. You can test negative and in an hour's you get infected.
What happened after kibra was mentioned as a hot spot? When the media stops reporting does it mean that the infections have stopped?
My simple estimates is that in this country we already have millions of infections. So as the clever man you are. The wise decision is to base the current number of the known deaths with my current estimate of the infected which is 3 million .
That will give you a better picture.

Unfortunately my ass doesn’t generate numbers like yours - Maybe it’s a disability I have but I am unable to pull numbers from it. Only some foul smelly stuff seem to come from it. I have nothing but admiration for people who pull numbers from their asses and tout them as facts.
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sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Italy has a total of 204,053 cases that have been reported as being resolved (recovered + dead)... 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Mexico has 105,397 resolved cases and 13.9% of these have been resolved through death.
USA has a total of 923,624 reported resolved cases - 12.5% of them have been resolved through death
Brazil has a total of 420,097 resolved cases - 9.5% of them have been resolved through death.
India gas a total of 149,086 cases reported as being resolved - 5.4% of them through death.
....
Kenya? Death is responsible for 7.8% of our resolved cases... tuko karibu na Brazil!! We need to keep the numbers LOW...


I think Kenyans are just weak. It could be a case of poor nutrition.

You may have a point... if you notice most people leave by the sea shore - access to fish (Omega 3 oils and Vitamin D)... In Kenya and South Africa most people live inland - less fish may be an aspect... but it's really too early in the process to assess this. Ugali + Sukuma wiki sioni vile inasaidia watu aje.


Sukuma wiki, spinach, eggs, meat, milk, nuts, beans, avocado etc are also known sources of omega 3, not only oily SEA fish [LINK1], [LINK2]. So taking ugali + masukuma/spinach will also help. Also vitamin D is got from the sun and the last time I checked we Africans live right on the equator where we get more vitamin D than anyone else.

Also who said that those who live inland don't eat fish? Go to any market or supermarket and you will find fish being sold, from omena to salmon. For instance I live inland and eat fish twice a week.

FYI hata blue band margarine is fortified with omega 3 and 6 so anyone taking their mkate na blue band in the morning is having their dose of omega 3.

So your argument about omega 3 and vitamin D deficiency is wrong.


It’s likely I am wrong... it just occurred that no one ever stated that East Africans have the best food.... not even sure East Africans who have left East Africa have ever said that. But yeah - it maybe something different.
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