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#21 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2019 7:13:31 PM
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it's proper to tip... but one must ensure that there is a variable reward scheme at play.
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hamburglar
#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2019 1:09:26 PM
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Africans don’t tip and that’s why we don’t get good service at posh restaurants and high end hotels. The waiters survive on tips and running to serve whites is a means of self preservation and not racism as we have been led to believe. If you are a Miro that tips well at a particular restaurant, am sure the waiters fall over themselves running to your table for service whenever you show up. It’s not a black or white thing, it’s a tip thing. Learn to tip, it’s a good gesture, the wait staff need the tips for survival.

As for slay queens, hapo you are on your own. Lol.
Jon Jones
#23 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:05:30 AM
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hamburglar wrote:
Africans don’t tip and that’s why we don’t get good service at posh restaurants and high end hotels. The waiters survive on tips and running to serve whites is a means of self preservation and not racism as we have been led to believe. If you are a Miro that tips well at a particular restaurant, am sure the waiters fall over themselves running to your table for service whenever you show up. It’s not a black or white thing, it’s a tip thing. Learn to tip, it’s a good gesture, the wait staff need the tips for survival.

As for slay queens, hapo you are on your own. Lol.


What happens to their salaries?? Are you trying to shift payroll to clients by underpaying waiters?? Waiters don't need tips to survive unless you pay them terribly. Tipping is okay but not necessary. Salaries are necessary, not tips.
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#24 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:03:31 PM
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Jon Jones wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Africans don’t tip and that’s why we don’t get good service at posh restaurants and high end hotels. The waiters survive on tips and running to serve whites is a means of self preservation and not racism as we have been led to believe. If you are a Miro that tips well at a particular restaurant, am sure the waiters fall over themselves running to your table for service whenever you show up. It’s not a black or white thing, it’s a tip thing. Learn to tip, it’s a good gesture, the wait staff need the tips for survival.

As for slay queens, hapo you are on your own. Lol.


What happens to their salaries?? Are you trying to shift payroll to clients by underpaying waiters?? Waiters don't need tips to survive unless you pay them terribly. Tipping is okay but not necessary. Salaries are necessary, not tips.



Well said hamburger. Indeed waiters "salaries" are below minimum wage.

In some restaurants they don't even have a salary.
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#25 Posted : Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:41:24 PM
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harrydre wrote:
Jon Jones wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Africans don’t tip and that’s why we don’t get good service at posh restaurants and high end hotels. The waiters survive on tips and running to serve whites is a means of self preservation and not racism as we have been led to believe. If you are a Miro that tips well at a particular restaurant, am sure the waiters fall over themselves running to your table for service whenever you show up. It’s not a black or white thing, it’s a tip thing. Learn to tip, it’s a good gesture, the wait staff need the tips for survival.

As for slay queens, hapo you are on your own. Lol.


What happens to their salaries?? Are you trying to shift payroll to clients by underpaying waiters?? Waiters don't need tips to survive unless you pay them terribly. Tipping is okay but not necessary. Salaries are necessary, not tips.



Well said hamburger. Indeed waiters "salaries" are below minimum wage.

In some restaurants they don't even have a salary.


Tipping is misunderstood by many, abused by some.

1. Tipping does shift the burden of pay from employers to staff and customers. It is however a win-win if applied properly;
a) Employer gets a highly motivated staff, eager to please and earn an etra buck from good service;
b) Employees practice their hospitality trade and earn more from perfecting their trade;
c) Government earns more in taxes and social economic growth. For countries that are reliant on hospitality and tourism, tipping is a direct contributor to revenues which supports the tourism industry while keeping the apparent costs to tourists low.

2. Laws and practice have developed to encourage tipping, benefiting the emoloyer, employees and government. The laws and practice are based on the following principles:
a) Tipping is for wholesome good service;
b) All tips collected are declared and paid into a common kitty then shared out among employees on a pre-determined formula. This is because typically, only customer facing employees like waiters, concierge and security receive tips. Kitchen, cleaning and maintenance staff are critical but do their jobs are done out of sight. No use in having a charming waiter if the food is burnt and toilet blocked.
c) The employer cannot appropriate the tips. This should happen even when employer invoices the tip on the customer's bill;

3. Back to @hardwood's local, a case of abuse of tipping culture:
a) Tips are kept by the waiter. Nothing for back-end critical and support staff. Even @hardwood admits that his waiter collects her tips in guaranas;
b) This results in a loopsided compensation scheme where waiters, concierges and watchmen earn more than supervisors and managers. I have seen instances where waiters cover the "short" for customers who abscond bills. Not a big issue if the customers are big tippers;
c) @hardwood doesn't tip for good service. His motivation for tipping is to try bang the smiling and understanding waiter. Seldom will he tip a same sex waiter.

4. In conclusion, IMO:
a) when you tip, understand it is for good service, for all/ departmental staff;
b) buying the waiter guarana to try bang her is not tipping. It's predatory behaviour
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