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mv_ufanisi
#21 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:07:44 PM
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Wow looks like the chickens are coming home to roost. If her lover is the one that led detectives to the water tank, he will sing like a bird and she will have nowhere to hide. The pressure of having so many detectives hounding you was too much for that Karanja guy to bear.
Hmmmn
#22 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:17:32 PM
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....the fact that she was the wife for years, under the law she was entitled to his estate...She didn’t have to kill(if she did)....The courts could make sure she got her entitlement...She needed a good divorce lawyer not a hit man...
Ce n’est pas si grave...
Shak
#23 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:30:01 PM
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Hmmmn wrote:
....the fact that she was the wife for years, under the law she was entitled to his estate...She didn’t have to kill(if she did)....The courts could make sure she got her entitlement...She needed a good divorce lawyer not a hit man...

Evil greedy witch. She wanted it all, not half
mv_ufanisi
#24 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:32:46 PM
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Hmmmn wrote:
....the fact that she was the wife for years, under the law she was entitled to his estate...She didn’t have to kill(if she did)....The courts could make sure she got her entitlement...She needed a good divorce lawyer not a hit man...


She was entitled to a part of his estate. Not all of it. Kenyan law says you have to show that you contributed to the acquisition, which is something a good lawyer can help you to do during divorce proceedings. If you've been married 29 years you would likely end up with a substantial share of the estate even if you were a housewife. Her greed led her to try and get everything her husband thrown to the side like some useless trash.

She will have a lot of time to think through her folly and greed at Lang'ata women's prison.

Tob Cohen married her when she was 22 and he was 42, she must have been very pretty then. Ukipata mali avoid the slayqueens like a plague. Once she tires of you she will try to take you out as she will feel very entitled to your money.
FRM2011
#25 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:41:22 PM
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I think I can say this and get away with it because I am a Kyuk and I have many kyuk female relatives.

There is only one easy option to divorce a kikuyu woman. You get broke. A few smart guys know how to fake this. You don't even need to worry about child support, she will drop you like hot coal and you will not hear from her again.

If you are middle class, expect an epic battle in the children's court.

If you are wealthy ( Networth > 20M ), my brother, you ain't leaving a Kikuyu woman. Unless by "leave" you mean to the after-life.
Hmmmn
#26 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 3:55:40 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Hmmmn wrote:
....the fact that she was the wife for years, under the law she was entitled to his estate...She didn’t have to kill(if she did)....The courts could make sure she got her entitlement...She needed a good divorce lawyer not a hit man...


She was entitled to a part of his estate. Not all of it. Kenyan law says you have to show that you contributed to the acquisition, which is something a good lawyer can help you to do during divorce proceedings. If you've been married 29 years you would likely end up with a substantial share of the estate even if you were a housewife. Her greed led her to try and get everything her husband thrown to the side like some useless trash.

She will have a lot of time to think through her folly and greed at Lang'ata women's prison.

Tob Cohen married her when she was 22 and he was 42, she must have been very pretty then. Ukipata mali avoid the slayqueens like a plague. Once she tires of you she will try to take you out as she will feel very entitled to your money.


Even a half of his wealth was good enough...With all this attention (including international) looks like its slammer time for years...
Ce n’est pas si grave...
hardwood
#27 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:35:36 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Wow looks like the chickens are coming home to roost. If her lover is the one that led detectives to the water tank, he will sing like a bird and she will have nowhere to hide. The pressure of having so many detectives hounding you was too much for that Karanja guy to bear.


She will walk away like kori. This case is complicated. Also she is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. Next week she gets released on bond like Ombado.
hardwood
#28 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:45:45 PM
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Hmmmn wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Hmmmn wrote:
....the fact that she was the wife for years, under the law she was entitled to his estate...She didn’t have to kill(if she did)....The courts could make sure she got her entitlement...She needed a good divorce lawyer not a hit man...


She was entitled to a part of his estate. Not all of it. Kenyan law says you have to show that you contributed to the acquisition, which is something a good lawyer can help you to do during divorce proceedings. If you've been married 29 years you would likely end up with a substantial share of the estate even if you were a housewife. Her greed led her to try and get everything her husband thrown to the side like some useless trash.

She will have a lot of time to think through her folly and greed at Lang'ata women's prison.

Tob Cohen married her when she was 22 and he was 42, she must have been very pretty then. Ukipata mali avoid the slayqueens like a plague. Once she tires of you she will try to take you out as she will feel very entitled to your money.


Even a half of his wealth was good enough...With all this attention (including international) looks like its slammer time for years...


Killing him would have meant she looses everything. So why should she do that if her interest was the property while the divorce was guaranteed to give her part of the property? We should be looking for the person who would have benefited from the murder and certainly its not her.
murchr
#29 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:00:48 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Hmmmn wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Hmmmn wrote:
....the fact that she was the wife for years, under the law she was entitled to his estate...She didn’t have to kill(if she did)....The courts could make sure she got her entitlement...She needed a good divorce lawyer not a hit man...


She was entitled to a part of his estate. Not all of it. Kenyan law says you have to show that you contributed to the acquisition, which is something a good lawyer can help you to do during divorce proceedings. If you've been married 29 years you would likely end up with a substantial share of the estate even if you were a housewife. Her greed led her to try and get everything her husband thrown to the side like some useless trash.

She will have a lot of time to think through her folly and greed at Lang'ata women's prison.

Tob Cohen married her when she was 22 and he was 42, she must have been very pretty then. Ukipata mali avoid the slayqueens like a plague. Once she tires of you she will try to take you out as she will feel very entitled to your money.


Even a half of his wealth was good enough...With all this attention (including international) looks like its slammer time for years...


Killing him would have meant she looses everything. So why should she do that if her interest was the property while the divorce was guaranteed to give her part of the property? We should be looking for the person who would have benefited from the murder and certainly its not her.


In her evil mind she thought that she'd never be caught.

Wrote letters to the police and lawyers to withdraw assault charges and divorce proceedings.

She probably thought that since there was enough evidence of assault, the courts would be in favour of the man and she was bound to lose.

So now she thought telling the police that the man is out of the country would have them busy looking elsewhere as his body decomposes in the septic tank.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Gathige
#30 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:41:39 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Alot of questions huko twirra....

@nelly

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Kenyans have already judged and prosecuted SARAH WAIRIMU for the murder of TOB COHEN. But what if she's actually being framed? Here's a thread of questions to consider.
1: How long has SARAH WAIRIMU been in custody?
2: If TOB COHEN had been missing for over 40 days, does it mean he was held hostage for a couple of weeks, then killed and disposed afew days ago?
3: If the body was recognisable, it means it had not been in the water for too long
4: How come the cement that sealed the hole was still very fresh, yet the compound is said to have been "sealed" by the police?
5: Why would SARAH WAIRIMU be as stupid as to kill her husband and dump his body in their compound?
6: Is it possible that TOB COHEN was only killed and his body disposed while SARAH WAIRIMU was in police custody? Given that the cement was still fresh and the body not too discomposed to be identified.


How did @Nelly know the cement is fresh?
On the matter of disposal it was a brilliant because nobody would imagine that the body could be within the compound. That's why it took police 60days. Almost perfect murder only that Sarah talked too much and they involved too many people.



As Kinoti has said, there's is no perfect crime. There is always a clue that uncovers the whole thing. It's only in cases of " a lone gunman" that it takes a while to uncover. Where two or more are involved, there will always be a clue. There is even a theory in management decision making known as the " prisoners dilemma" that exemplifies the thinking behind gangs and prisoners.


"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
murchr
#31 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:12:27 PM
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That @Nelly is not using her brains.

1. She has been in custody for close to 2-3 weeks
2. The person who confessed can easily answer her question. That does not negate the fact that he was murdered and body dispossed.
3. This week, a google satellite image captured a car in a pond, apparently a man disappeared 22 years ago while driving home, his remains were found there. It is common to say man came from sand/soil but let nelly know that if she is submerged in water for 40 days she will not dissolve.

5. Because stupid and desperate people do stupid shit. She's not the first i've seen several ID episodes where people bury those they kill in their backyards.

4. The cement is not fresh, its dried but it was done recently. My soakpit that was done close to 2 years ago still looks new. (This analogy was brought about by Ken Mijungu at the scene of crime yesterday, but it was stupid if you look at the tank)

6. Sarah reported that Tob was missing after his sister notified the Netherlands embassy about her missing brother. She only went to youtube to try to say that the man usually took long trips even out of the country without telling her. She went on to say that he had left for Thailand for treatment, however, those he met the previous day mentioned that he was of very good health and played golf like a very healthy person. Also, to go to Thailand, you'd need a passport/immigration and use the international airport to catch a plane.



"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#32 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:40:01 PM
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Mrs Sarah Cohen is innocent - Lawyer Philip Murgor

https://www.the-star.co....nt-lawyer-philip-murgor/
kaka2za
#33 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 7:09:23 PM
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[quote=hardwood]Mrs Sarah Cohen is innocent - Lawyer Philip Murgor

https://www.the-star.co....t-lawyer-philip-murgor/[/quote]

What do you expect from her lawyer?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
hardwood
#34 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 7:48:06 PM
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Cohen was last seen in the company of 2 prostitutes, and then he went missing. Could they have engaged in a $ex game aka BDSM that went wrong and that is why he was tied up? And then the prostitutes dumped him in the manhole? NB many people have died after $ex games went wrong eg <<THIS>>.

https://www.k24tv.co.ke/...ife-sarah-wairimu-8749/

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Two women will be charged with murder alongside missing tycoon Tob Cohen’s wife, Sarah Wairimu Kamotho.

It is alleged that the two women were in the company of Dutch millionaire, Cohen, before he went missing on July 19, this year.

Cohen’s 52-year-old wife, Wairimu, was presented at the Milimani Law Courts on Thursday ahead of her prosecution.

The Director of Public Prosecutions recommended that Wairimu and the said-prostitutes be charged with murder following the completion of investigations into Cohen’s disappearance by the DCI.

hardwood
#35 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 8:34:14 PM
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The plot thickens....

https://www.k24tv.co.ke/...iscoveries-murgor-8862/

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Addressing journalists at his office in Ecobank Towers, Nairobi on Saturday, September 14, Murgor said in a 17-day search operation by DCI detectives, they had combed everywhere in Tob Cohen’s Kitisuru compound, including the underground water tank, where his body was retrieved from on Friday, September 13, and that their previous searches yielded nothing to link his client to the murder.

Murgor suggested that Cohen could have been killed elsewhere recently and his body planted at the scene.


“I have talked to pathologists, and they have said there is no possibility that after close to 50 days a body would be found in a state that Cohen’s was in,” said Murgor.

The lawyer claims that his client was only allowed access to her house twice in a period of 17 days, hence there was no way she could kill and hide his body in the water tank during that period.

“The two times she was allowed access to her house, she was escorted by DCI detectives. Sarah had gone to her house for a bath and change of clothes,” said the lawyer.

Murgor further alleged that the last time Cohen was spotted on July 20, he was in the company of two women.

“I spoke to Sarah [on Friday, September 13], and she is saddened that her husband has been confirmed dead,” said Murgor.
Hmmmn
#36 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:09:09 PM
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I thought bodies decompose more slowly when submerged in a water mass? They tend to decompose faster in open air...Hard to tell when he met his death...Was he inside something or just in water?.Could the girls of the night been bait to lure him to his death? There is too many people involved it’s just too messy all around...
Ce n’est pas si grave...
hardwood
#37 Posted : Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:13:46 PM
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I have seen on 9pm news that 3 prominent people who are suspects in the case are on the run. Eti those people were interested in his property and are currently in hiding.
washiku
#38 Posted : Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:08:04 AM
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essyk
#39 Posted : Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:20:51 AM
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Bloggers are trying hard to portray that woman as a saint with their pea sized knowldege of a crime scene investigation and body decomposition matters.Poor them.
Cohen was tortured,tied,body wrapped and tightly sealed inside a drum.The drum was found inside an empty underground septic tank.
I'ave seen that body from diff angles.I am not a pathologist to explain the various stages of decomposition.It sucks.
Painful to imagine what Cohen was subjected to before his death.These are cold blooded murderers we meet with everyday.
To imagine that Holland is our biggest flower market.

This evil woman is going in for a long time unless she can get rid of the evidence currently with the DCI.

Investigations

Condolences to Cohen's family.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Hmmmn
#40 Posted : Sunday, September 15, 2019 1:47:47 AM
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washiku wrote:
http://www.iamsarahcohen.com/


Wow...all I can say there are two sides to every story then there is the truth....The fact that he was found in his own yard is interesting and not good for her...She should have left the dude many years ago...Based on her account of their life, they didn’t seem to like each other very much...
Ce n’est pas si grave...
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