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Kusadikika		#1 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 6:05:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,695		MSFT at a price of $140 is worth $1.065 Trillion.
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Ericsson		#2 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 6:18:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		Kusadikika wrote: MSFT at a price of $140 is worth $1.065 Trillion. American economy is booming Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Kusadikika		#3 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 6:27:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,695		It has $131 Billion in cash!!!!! Ngai!! Enough to fund Kenyas $30 Billion dollar budget for 4 years without collecting any taxes or borrowing!!!
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VituVingiSana		#4 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 6:41:35 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi		Ericsson wrote: Kusadikika wrote: MSFT at a price of $140 is worth $1.065 Trillion. American economy is booming If this continues for another 14 months then Trumps is in until 2024 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#5 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 6:43:13 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi		Kusadikika wrote: It has $131 Billion in cash!!!!! Ngai!! Enough to fund Kenyas $30 Billion dollar budget for 4 years without collecting any taxes or borrowing!!! Chupilee will not only "spend" the $131bn, it will borrow another $131bn Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Ericsson		#6 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 8:00:36 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		Apple has $230bn in cash Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Kusadikika		#7 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 8:30:09 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,695		Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt.
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Impunity		#8 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 8:57:05 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada		Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Ericsson		#9 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 9:29:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Most of the cash is held abroad/overseas. The tax to repatriate the cash to USA was/is punitive compared to borrowing locally.Not sure whether President Trump was able to successfully eliminate/reduce the tax Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Kusadikika		#10 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 10:55:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,695		Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends.
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murchr		#11 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 11:01:16 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979		Kusadikika wrote: Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends. You want to say money can only be used in manufacturing? Dont they buy equipment, maintain, and pay engineers? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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VituVingiSana		#12 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2019 11:18:53 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi		murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends. You want to say money can only be used in manufacturing? Dont they buy equipment, maintain, and pay engineers? This is AFTER all those folk are paid. Another reason for cash is to make purchases/acquisitions. No need to go to a bank asking for a loan. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Kusadikika		#13 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:02:16 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,695		murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends. You want to say money can only be used in manufacturing? Dont they buy equipment, maintain, and pay engineers? Some businesses are more capital intensive than others. If you are manufacturing you need a lot of capital outlay before you can earn your cash. Check out these 2 companies side by side Microsoft and Ford Motor company: Ford revenue: 158 Billion Ford EBITDA: 12 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...?p=F&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft Revenue: 125 Billion Microsoft EBITDA: 54 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...MSFT&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft is just in the best business in the world. If the worst came to the worst and business went down you just fire people. With Ford if business goes down what do you do with the manufacturing plant? You still have to maintain it because if business picks up again you may need to have it in working condition. If a guy bought a Ford pickup in 1990 and still likes it there is little Ford can do to make him buy a new one. With Microsoft they just stop supporting and giving updates of old software and you are forced to get the newer version.
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murchr		#14 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2019 6:23:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979		Kusadikika wrote: murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends. You want to say money can only be used in manufacturing? Dont they buy equipment, maintain, and pay engineers? Some businesses are more capital intensive than others. If you are manufacturing you need a lot of capital outlay before you can earn your cash. Check out these 2 companies side by side Microsoft and Ford Motor company: Ford revenue: 158 Billion Ford EBITDA: 12 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...?p=F&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft Revenue: 125 Billion Microsoft EBITDA: 54 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...MSFT&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft is just in the best business in the world. If the worst came to the worst and business went down you just fire people. With Ford if business goes down what do you do with the manufacturing plant? You still have to maintain it because if business picks up again you may need to have it in working condition. If a guy bought a Ford pickup in 1990 and still likes it there is little Ford can do to make him buy a new one. With Microsoft they just stop supporting and giving updates of old software and you are forced to get the newer version. What is the Capex of safaricom visavis EABL? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Ericsson		#15 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2019 9:30:33 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends. You want to say money can only be used in manufacturing? Dont they buy equipment, maintain, and pay engineers? Some businesses are more capital intensive than others. If you are manufacturing you need a lot of capital outlay before you can earn your cash. Check out these 2 companies side by side Microsoft and Ford Motor company: Ford revenue: 158 Billion Ford EBITDA: 12 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...?p=F&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft Revenue: 125 Billion Microsoft EBITDA: 54 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...MSFT&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft is just in the best business in the world. If the worst came to the worst and business went down you just fire people. With Ford if business goes down what do you do with the manufacturing plant? You still have to maintain it because if business picks up again you may need to have it in working condition. If a guy bought a Ford pickup in 1990 and still likes it there is little Ford can do to make him buy a new one. With Microsoft they just stop supporting and giving updates of old software and you are forced to get the newer version. What is the Capex of safaricom visavis EABL? Capex of safaricom is in the region of ksh36-40bn EABL capex is ksh.13bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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murchr		#16 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2019 4:00:19 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979		Ericsson wrote: murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: murchr wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Impunity wrote: Kusadikika wrote: Ericsson wrote: Apple has $230bn in cash During the days of Steve Jobs, Apple used to hold a lot of cash but not any more. Right now they have about 80 Billion in Cash and debts of 112 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...L/key-statistics?p=AAPL Microsoft is more cash rich with 131 Billion in cash and debts of only 86 billion. They hold enough cash to pay off all their debts and still have 45 Billion to play with. https://finance.yahoo.co...&.tsrc=fin-tre-srch US companies have crazy debts and Microsoft is one of the few with minimal debt. What's the rationale for holding such a huge swath of liquid cash? Some companies generate so much cash they do not know what to do with it!!! A company like Microsoft does not even manufacture anything so it is not like they need to pay suppliers or anything. For Microsoft I know it was also a deliberate decision made by the founders early on that they wanted to keep enough cash to run the company for I don't remember what number of years even if no revenue was coming in. Jobs had the same principle from his experience in the early days of Apple when they were struggling. Even locally Safaricom generates so much cash that they just give it all away as dividends. You want to say money can only be used in manufacturing? Dont they buy equipment, maintain, and pay engineers? Some businesses are more capital intensive than others. If you are manufacturing you need a lot of capital outlay before you can earn your cash. Check out these 2 companies side by side Microsoft and Ford Motor company: Ford revenue: 158 Billion Ford EBITDA: 12 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...?p=F&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft Revenue: 125 Billion Microsoft EBITDA: 54 Billion https://finance.yahoo.co...MSFT&.tsrc=fin-srch Microsoft is just in the best business in the world. If the worst came to the worst and business went down you just fire people. With Ford if business goes down what do you do with the manufacturing plant? You still have to maintain it because if business picks up again you may need to have it in working condition. If a guy bought a Ford pickup in 1990 and still likes it there is little Ford can do to make him buy a new one. With Microsoft they just stop supporting and giving updates of old software and you are forced to get the newer version. What is the Capex of safaricom visavis EABL? Capex of safaricom is in the region of ksh36-40bn EABL capex is ksh.13bn Aha! Tech companies spend more in capex and they still have more in cash. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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