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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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My worst nightmare is to end up with walling like this, which Kenyans seem to love with a curious passion. Jameni what are some of the ways we can avoid having walls like these? Plastering? Painting? Tiling? 
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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MugundaMan wrote:My worst nightmare is to end up with walling like this, which Kenyans seem to love with a curious passion. Jameni what are some of the ways we can avoid having walls like these? Plastering? Painting? Tiling? Nothing wrong with those walls They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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@tom_boy And that's precisely the problem  Kenyans hawaoni ubaya na hiyo walling. Pray tell where else in the world have you ever seen such shoddily done walls where the mortar is smeared untidly while keypointing? Angalia za Seuth Efika. Nywee and well done every day all day. 
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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MugundaMan wrote:@tom_boy And that's precisely the problem Kenyans hawaoni ubaya na hiyo walling. Pray tell where else in the world have you ever seen such shoddily done walls where the mortar is smeared untidly while keypointing? Angalia za Seuth Efika. Nywee and well done every day all day. This is the problem of some Africans. We look down on what we have and try to ape what we see out there. This is despite the fact that trying to ape those buildings leads to greater cost and time expense. Tell me, what do they use out there to build their houses? Most use wood others fired bricks. This creates a need to protect this walling with an extra coating. In Kenya, we are very blessed to have natural stone that is weather resistant, durable and beautiful. Why spend extra just to ape a mzungu. Jipende kwanza They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 395 Location: Where everyone knows you
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Correct @tom_boy.
If you use natural stone, and the keying is done neatly, there is NO need to do anything else.
In Europe, the US etc. natural stone is VERY VERY expensive,
Therefore they use concrete blocks, wood, concrete panels etc.
These HAVE to be finished and painted.
Even in Kenya, natural stone is becoming a lot more expensive than concrete blocks.
So you will see it used more and more. This requires it to be plastered and painted.
Eventually, it will be your budget and finishing preference that will decide the way to go.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2010 Posts: 939 Location: Nai
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MugundaMan wrote:@tom_boy And that's precisely the problem Kenyans hawaoni ubaya na hiyo walling. Pray tell where else in the world have you ever seen such shoddily done walls where the mortar is smeared untidly while keypointing? Angalia za Seuth Efika. Nywee and well done every day all day. Why would you dress a stone then go ahead and plaster it?? it will be expensive over time to maintain painted exterior walls than natural stone especially in your dusty county.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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tom_boy wrote:MugundaMan wrote:@tom_boy And that's precisely the problem Kenyans hawaoni ubaya na hiyo walling. Pray tell where else in the world have you ever seen such shoddily done walls where the mortar is smeared untidly while keypointing? Angalia za Seuth Efika. Nywee and well done every day all day. This is the problem of some Africans. We look down on what we have and try to ape what we see out there. This is despite the fact that trying to ape those buildings leads to greater cost and time expense. Tell me, what do they use out there to build their houses? Most use wood others fired bricks. This creates a need to protect this walling with an extra coating. In Kenya, we are very blessed to have natural stone that is weather resistant, durable and beautiful. Why spend extra just to ape a mzungu. Jipende kwanza Very funny! Pray tell, why do you "ape mzungu" by wearing modern clothes and not the goat skins your ancestors who used to "jiamini" would wear?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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MatataMingi wrote:Correct @tom_boy.
If you use natural stone, and the keying is done neatly, there is NO need to do anything else.
In Europe, the US etc. natural stone is VERY VERY expensive,
Therefore they use concrete blocks, wood, concrete panels etc.
These HAVE to be finished and painted.
Even in Kenya, natural stone is becoming a lot more expensive than concrete blocks.
So you will see it used more and more. This requires it to be plastered and painted.
Eventually, it will be your budget and finishing preference that will decide the way to go. That is my key gripe (pun fully intended) papa. No beef whatsoever with the beautiful grey stone.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Buy, Develop and Hold expert amekaangwa hapa! No coming back. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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sparkly wrote:Buy, Develop and Hold expert amekaangwa hapa! No coming back. Na "Einstein " wa Wazoo adds his typical zero to the debate other than his typical brainless one liner
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 395 Location: Where everyone knows you
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MugundaMan wrote:MatataMingi wrote:Correct @tom_boy.
If you use natural stone, and the keying is done neatly, there is NO need to do anything else.
In Europe, the US etc. natural stone is VERY VERY expensive,
Therefore they use concrete blocks, wood, concrete panels etc.
These HAVE to be finished and painted.
Even in Kenya, natural stone is becoming a lot more expensive than concrete blocks.
So you will see it used more and more. This requires it to be plastered and painted.
Eventually, it will be your budget and finishing preference that will decide the way to go. That is my key gripe (pun fully intended) papa. No beef whatsoever with the beautiful grey stone. That dear toto, is up to you. Why use expensive natural stone and get an inexperienced person to dress it properly. Bogus project management. I suggest you learn before you build. I have just built my 5th. house, over a period of 50 years. You can never stop learning. New materials, methods are coming up all the time. You need to be on top of your game. Good luck Toto.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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MatataMingi wrote:MugundaMan wrote:MatataMingi wrote:Correct @tom_boy.
If you use natural stone, and the keying is done neatly, there is NO need to do anything else.
In Europe, the US etc. natural stone is VERY VERY expensive,
Therefore they use concrete blocks, wood, concrete panels etc.
These HAVE to be finished and painted.
Even in Kenya, natural stone is becoming a lot more expensive than concrete blocks.
So you will see it used more and more. This requires it to be plastered and painted.
Eventually, it will be your budget and finishing preference that will decide the way to go. That is my key gripe (pun fully intended) papa. No beef whatsoever with the beautiful grey stone. That dear toto, is up to you. Why use expensive natural stone and get an inexperienced person to dress it properly. Bogus project management. I suggest you learn before you build. I have just built my 5th. house, over a period of 50 years. You can never stop learning. New materials, methods are coming up all the time. You need to be on top of your game. Good luck Toto. Methuselah, Kweli kizungu ni kitu ngumu. Sometimes talking to people on Wazoo is like being in the twilight zone. I made a simple statement; that the walling in the picture was terrible. I gave the reason very clearly : Quote:Pray tell where else in the world have you ever seen such shoddily done walls where the mortar is smeared untidly while keypointing? Where do your 5 (phantom?) mega-mansions and "learning" and issues project management come into this very simple discussion about a shoddily done wall ? Kweli una MatataMingi kichwani!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Yet another example of terrible keying And this house in Karen is going for 30 metre! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Now this is a guy who knows what he is doing. Look at the intricate detail and finesse in how he did the both sections of his walls! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Now this is what you call skill in keying. Not those shoddily built homes some of you love. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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MugundaMan wrote:Now this is a guy who knows what he is doing. Look at the intricate detail and finesse in how he did the both sections of his walls! This is nice. I love walls that are plastered and painted. Imagine if all the ugly flats in eastlamds were plastered and painted? It would be a major transformation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Now this is a guy who knows what he is doing. Look at the intricate detail and finesse in how he did the both sections of his walls! This is nice. I love walls that are plastered and painted. Imagine if all the ugly flats in eastlamds were plastered and painted? It would be a major transformation. According to the tom mupoys and MatataMingis, that sort of walling is excellent and full of "kujiamini" The excuses people make for accepting mediocrity astound me. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MugundaMan wrote:sparkly wrote:Buy, Develop and Hold expert amekaangwa hapa! No coming back. Na "Einstein " wa Wazoo adds his typical zero to the debate other than his typical brainless one liner
Don't tackle the referee my guy. I have judged the "debate" and you lost badly. Life is short. Live passionately.
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