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Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:The news has excited the share price today Unnecessary excitement...i highly doubt KENGEN will pay dividend in respect to FY 2018/19...They havent been paid a sinGle cent for their olkaria V 158MW plant since commissioning last october.... 2018/2019 or did you mean 2019/2020 The Accounts waiting AUDIT and DIVIDEND decision is FY 2018/19...2019/2020 is still an uncertain future. KenGen has huge receivables, almost 4B shillings for olkaria V....which is pending since it was NOT included in the current tariff regime..plus Force Majeure declaration by KPLC due to COVID should affect their cash and revenues
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:The news has excited the share price today Unnecessary excitement...i highly doubt KENGEN will pay dividend in respect to FY 2018/19...They havent been paid a sinGle cent for their olkaria V 158MW plant since commissioning last october.... 2018/2019 or did you mean 2019/2020 The Accounts waiting AUDIT and DIVIDEND decision is FY 2018/19...2019/2020 is still an uncertain future. KenGen has huge receivables, almost 4B shillings for olkaria V....which is pending since it was NOT included in the current tariff regime..plus Force Majeure declaration by KPLC due to COVID should affect their cash and revenues The story is on the headlines of Business Daily today Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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High of 5.60 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/21/2015 Posts: 151
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sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent  hard to see the relation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. Mumias Sugar told us the cane leaves can be fed to dairy cows hence reason for them venturing to dairy farming Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 954 Location: Kenya
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sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business
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watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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tom_boy wrote:watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe From the looks of it, there are 2 Kengens. Kengen 1 that handles Kshs 40B per Olkaria projects and Kengen 2 whose work is to raise invoices to KP and pay employees. Kengen 1 is run directly by National Treasury in collaboration with donor agencies while Kengen 2 is led by Rebecca Miano with discretionary spending of less than Kshs 100m per year. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/30/2019 Posts: 15 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:tom_boy wrote:watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe From the looks of it, there are 2 Kengens. Kengen 1 that handles Kshs 40B per Olkaria projects and Kengen 2 whose work is to raise invoices to KP and pay employees. Kengen 1 is run directly by National Treasury in collaboration with donor agencies while Kengen 2 is led by Rebecca Miano with discretionary spending of less than Kshs 100m per year. https://twitter.com/KenG...276541199193722880?s=19
It's a special detergent for drilling geothermal wells, folks.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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TheAlchemist wrote:sparkly wrote:tom_boy wrote:watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe From the looks of it, there are 2 Kengens. Kengen 1 that handles Kshs 40B per Olkaria projects and Kengen 2 whose work is to raise invoices to KP and pay employees. Kengen 1 is run directly by National Treasury in collaboration with donor agencies while Kengen 2 is led by Rebecca Miano with discretionary spending of less than Kshs 100m per year. https://twitter.com/KenG...276541199193722880?s=19
It's a special detergent for drilling geothermal wells, folks. Where did BDA get their story from Quote:Kenya Bureau of Standards has given it approvals for the manufacture of liquid hand washing detergent, liquid bleach, hair shampoo, carpet shampoo, car shampoo, liquid disinfectant and fabric softeners.
The factory will boost revenue for KenGen and take the competition to the doorsteps of firms such as Unilever and Flame Tree Group that manufacture most of these items Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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sparkly wrote:TheAlchemist wrote:sparkly wrote:tom_boy wrote:watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe From the looks of it, there are 2 Kengens. Kengen 1 that handles Kshs 40B per Olkaria projects and Kengen 2 whose work is to raise invoices to KP and pay employees. Kengen 1 is run directly by National Treasury in collaboration with donor agencies while Kengen 2 is led by Rebecca Miano with discretionary spending of less than Kshs 100m per year. https://twitter.com/KenG...276541199193722880?s=19
It's a special detergent for drilling geothermal wells, folks. Where did BDA get their story from Quote:Kenya Bureau of Standards has given it approvals for the manufacture of liquid hand washing detergent, liquid bleach, hair shampoo, carpet shampoo, car shampoo, liquid disinfectant and fabric softeners.
The factory will boost revenue for KenGen and take the competition to the doorsteps of firms such as Unilever and Flame Tree Group that manufacture most of these items BDA were doing sensational journalism Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/30/2019 Posts: 15 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:TheAlchemist wrote:sparkly wrote:tom_boy wrote:watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe From the looks of it, there are 2 Kengens. Kengen 1 that handles Kshs 40B per Olkaria projects and Kengen 2 whose work is to raise invoices to KP and pay employees. Kengen 1 is run directly by National Treasury in collaboration with donor agencies while Kengen 2 is led by Rebecca Miano with discretionary spending of less than Kshs 100m per year. https://twitter.com/KenG...276541199193722880?s=19
It's a special detergent for drilling geothermal wells, folks. Where did BDA get their story from Quote:Kenya Bureau of Standards has given it approvals for the manufacture of liquid hand washing detergent, liquid bleach, hair shampoo, carpet shampoo, car shampoo, liquid disinfectant and fabric softeners.
The factory will boost revenue for KenGen and take the competition to the doorsteps of firms such as Unilever and Flame Tree Group that manufacture most of these items BDA were doing sensational journalism Probably a case of Kengen person: We have set up a plant for making detergents which ... Lazy journalist, working from home: Say no more
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TheAlchemist wrote:Ericsson wrote:sparkly wrote:TheAlchemist wrote:sparkly wrote:tom_boy wrote:watesh wrote:sparkly wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/KenGen-targets-new-income/4003102-5583118-12kikt9/index.html Not a viable investment. Management needs to think big and concentrate on the core.There is still alot of untapped energy potential in kenya and in the region and even continent. It is called diversification, what next Another Mumias...mara water bottling, now detergent Not forgetting solar panels and beauty spa. It's ridiculous. The solar panels is related to the core, the spa is making use of a by-product but now detergent hard to see the relation. Byproducts of the geothermal steam production process are water, gases and salts (the reason why the water in the spa feels soapy). The salts can be used to make detergents. Nevertheless, Kengen shouldn't be in the business of making soaps, except as a community CSR project. In addition if the factory has a way to operate on electricity sold at below market rate as compared to other players, they should have a solid profit margin should the venture be successful....free raw materials, low power charges, cheap labour from the area and lots of free land. All point to cheap production costs....as long as it doesn't hinder or distract the core business Hizo zote ni theory mzuri but to make an impact, they will have to fight for the consumers mind. Unless they target govt supplies, na pia huko kuna wenyewe From the looks of it, there are 2 Kengens. Kengen 1 that handles Kshs 40B per Olkaria projects and Kengen 2 whose work is to raise invoices to KP and pay employees. Kengen 1 is run directly by National Treasury in collaboration with donor agencies while Kengen 2 is led by Rebecca Miano with discretionary spending of less than Kshs 100m per year. https://twitter.com/KenG...276541199193722880?s=19
It's a special detergent for drilling geothermal wells, folks. Where did BDA get their story from Quote:Kenya Bureau of Standards has given it approvals for the manufacture of liquid hand washing detergent, liquid bleach, hair shampoo, carpet shampoo, car shampoo, liquid disinfectant and fabric softeners.
The factory will boost revenue for KenGen and take the competition to the doorsteps of firms such as Unilever and Flame Tree Group that manufacture most of these items BDA were doing sensational journalism Probably a case of Kengen person: We have set up a plant for making detergents which ... Lazy journalist, working from home: Say no more And they really did a marathon with the wrong info....shampoos, fabric softeners ati competition to Unilever and FTGH 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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