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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,996 Location: Kitale
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Superprime1 wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:@KaunganaDodo When are full year results out and what should we anticipate on this one? Last time you were quite accurate... we can start with the known knowns first, which is that "there will be no Dividends Declared this year" The other known unknowns and other Unknown Unknowns will be Known at day break. Its still midnight,unknown unknown phantom figures are walking around the compounds looking for Creatures crawl in search of blood. I would rather Pee inside here than open the midnight door in search of the known pit latrine hidden in the known darkness where unknown unknown creatures crawl.  Damn, it's that bad!  Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2018 Posts: 292
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Superprime1 wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:@KaunganaDodo When are full year results out and what should we anticipate on this one? Last time you were quite accurate... we can start with the known knowns first, which is that "there will be no Dividends Declared this year" The other known unknowns and other Unknown Unknowns will be Known at day break. Its still midnight,unknown unknown phantom figures are walking around the compounds looking for Creatures crawl in search of blood. I would rather Pee inside here than open the midnight door in search of the known pit latrine hidden in the known darkness where unknown unknown creatures crawl. Damn, it's that bad! Very bad. scamper into the darkness , abandon the house. This week before it ends, there will be blood in the compound, The Phantom figure has found bloody creatures. LEAVE THE COMPOUND NOW!SON, RUN!YOU WILL COME BACK LATER!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,636 Location: NAIROBI
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:@KaunganaDodo When are full year results out and what should we anticipate on this one? Last time you were quite accurate... we can start with the known knowns first, which is that "there will be no Dividends Declared this year" The other known unknowns and other Unknown Unknowns will be Known at day break. Its still midnight,unknown unknown phantom figures are walking around the compounds looking for Creatures crawl in search of blood. I would rather Pee inside here than open the midnight door in search of the known pit latrine hidden in the known darkness where unknown unknown creatures crawl. Damn, it's that bad! Very bad. scamper into the darkness , abandon the house. This week before it ends, there will be blood in the compound, The Phantom figure has found bloody creatures. LEAVE THE COMPOUND NOW!SON, RUN!YOU WILL COME BACK LATER! The week ends tomorrow. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,636 Location: NAIROBI
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Kenya Power strikes Sh200m deal with suspended bosses Suspended Kenya Power managers have walked away with millions of shillings in “severance” pay to relinquish their positions at the electricity retailer. The move is meant to pave way for the recruitment of a substantive management team even as the court cases in which they face corruption charges continue. The managers, including former chief executive Ken Tarus, will walk away with a combined Sh200 million in what has been termed a mutual separation, with each pocketing between Sh15 million and Sh20 million. A Kenya Power insider said each of the managers walked away with between Sh15 million and Sh20 million. The interim team has been getting renewals of their terms every few months. In the deal, former chief executive Tarus will come off as a major winner, pocketing Sh20 million, according to sources. This would have been his salary for two years, having been paid Sh11 million in salary and allowances during his first year as chief executive between August 2017 and July 2018, when he was suspended following his arrest and arraignment in court. He had been on half-pay over the 2018/2019 financial year during which he remained suspended. https://www.standardmedi...ower-s-costly-separationWealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 953 Location: Kenya
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[quote=Ericsson] Kenya Power strikes Sh200m deal with suspended bosses Suspended Kenya Power managers have walked away with millions of shillings in “severance” pay to relinquish their positions at the electricity retailer. The move is meant to pave way for the recruitment of a substantive management team even as the court cases in which they face corruption charges continue. The managers, including former chief executive Ken Tarus, will walk away with a combined Sh200 million in what has been termed a mutual separation, with each pocketing between Sh15 million and Sh20 million. A Kenya Power insider said each of the managers walked away with between Sh15 million and Sh20 million. The interim team has been getting renewals of their terms every few months. In the deal, former chief executive Tarus will come off as a major winner, pocketing Sh20 million, according to sources. This would have been his salary for two years, having been paid Sh11 million in salary and allowances during his first year as chief executive between August 2017 and July 2018, when he was suspended following his arrest and arraignment in court. He had been on half-pay over the 2018/2019 financial year during which he remained suspended. https://www.standardmedi...wer-s-costly-separation[/quote] Wow we definitely not getting any dividends any time soon.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2018 Posts: 292
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:@KaunganaDodo When are full year results out and what should we anticipate on this one? Last time you were quite accurate... we can start with the known knowns first, which is that "there will be no Dividends Declared this year" The other known unknowns and other Unknown Unknowns will be Known at day break. Its still midnight,unknown unknown phantom figures are walking around the compounds looking for Creatures crawl in search of blood. I would rather Pee inside here than open the midnight door in search of the known pit latrine hidden in the known darkness where unknown unknown creatures crawl. Damn, it's that bad! Very bad. scamper into the darkness , abandon the house. This week before it ends, there will be blood in the compound, The Phantom figure has found bloody creatures. LEAVE THE COMPOUND NOW!SON, RUN!YOU WILL COME BACK LATER! BOOM! KPLC ISSUES A PROFIT WARNING TODAY.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2018 Posts: 267
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Superprime1 wrote:@KaunganaDodo When are full year results out and what should we anticipate on this one? Last time you were quite accurate... we can start with the known knowns first, which is that "there will be no Dividends Declared this year" The other known unknowns and other Unknown Unknowns will be Known at day break. Its still midnight,unknown unknown phantom figures are walking around the compounds looking for Creatures crawl in search of blood. I would rather Pee inside here than open the midnight door in search of the known pit latrine hidden in the known darkness where unknown unknown creatures crawl. Damn, it's that bad! Very bad. scamper into the darkness , abandon the house. This week before it ends, there will be blood in the compound, The Phantom figure has found bloody creatures. LEAVE THE COMPOUND NOW!SON, RUN!YOU WILL COME BACK LATER! BOOM! KPLC ISSUES A PROFIT WARNING TODAY. This thing should now trade at below 1 bob to join the other monkeys. @KaunganaDodo you were on point, again!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. To Each His Own
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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kayhara wrote:Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. Run for your dear life brother and don't look back like Lot's wife lest you turn into a mound of salt. This one is headed the KQ way. I have sold my holdings today (abp ksh. 3.96, sell price 3.20). Trust me, having been burnt to recognition not once, not twice...a couple of times, i know what i am talking about. Next year the balance sheet will be on negative equity and next year part one KPLC will be on its death bed having financed Jubilee kumi tena campaigns for 2022. Just observe KPLC operations(staff included) in your locality and decide whether this is a company you are proud to own. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2018 Posts: 292
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Fyatu wrote:kayhara wrote:Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. Run for your dear life brother and don't look back like Lot's wife lest you turn into a mound of salt. This one is headed the KQ way. I have sold my holdings today (abp ksh. 3.96, sell price 3.20). Trust me, having been burnt to recognition not once, not twice...a couple of times, i know what i am talking about. Next year the balance sheet will be on negative equity and next year part one KPLC will be on its death bed having financed Jubilee kumi tena campaigns for 2022. Just observe KPLC operations(staff included) in your locality and decide whether this is a company you are proud to own. I dont think KPLC will slide into negative equity soon....Although they will continue having negative working capital . Refinancing of their short term loans into long term is ongoing. Much of the gist is obsolesce Inventories and write-off of government receivables. There is a possibility they can make a Loss when they announce their numbers later in October . if this holds, its primarily due to write off of these receivables from Government(The cost incurred by KPLC in operating and maintaining Rural Electrification schemes (last mile) distribution network owned by REA...this cost is normally Government billed...currently accumulated to over Ksh 18B...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,636 Location: NAIROBI
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:Fyatu wrote:kayhara wrote:Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. Run for your dear life brother and don't look back like Lot's wife lest you turn into a mound of salt. This one is headed the KQ way. I have sold my holdings today (abp ksh. 3.96, sell price 3.20). Trust me, having been burnt to recognition not once, not twice...a couple of times, i know what i am talking about. Next year the balance sheet will be on negative equity and next year part one KPLC will be on its death bed having financed Jubilee kumi tena campaigns for 2022. Just observe KPLC operations(staff included) in your locality and decide whether this is a company you are proud to own. I dont think KPLC will slide into negative equity soon....Although they will continue having negative working capital . Refinancing of their short term loans into long term is ongoing. Much of the gist is obsolesce Inventories and write-off of government receivables. There is a possibility they can make a Loss when they announce their numbers later in October . if this holds, its primarily due to write off of these receivables from Government(The cost incurred by KPLC in operating and maintaining Rural Electrification schemes (last mile) distribution network owned by REA...this cost is normally Government billed...currently accumulated to over Ksh 18B... And then you will hear the government debt of ksh.18bn has been equalised to write off the amount of money Government has on-lent to KPLC. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2018 Posts: 292
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Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Fyatu wrote:kayhara wrote:Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. Run for your dear life brother and don't look back like Lot's wife lest you turn into a mound of salt. This one is headed the KQ way. I have sold my holdings today (abp ksh. 3.96, sell price 3.20). Trust me, having been burnt to recognition not once, not twice...a couple of times, i know what i am talking about. Next year the balance sheet will be on negative equity and next year part one KPLC will be on its death bed having financed Jubilee kumi tena campaigns for 2022. Just observe KPLC operations(staff included) in your locality and decide whether this is a company you are proud to own. I dont think KPLC will slide into negative equity soon....Although they will continue having negative working capital . Refinancing of their short term loans into long term is ongoing. Much of the gist is obsolesce Inventories and write-off of government receivables. There is a possibility they can make a Loss when they announce their numbers later in October . if this holds, its primarily due to write off of these receivables from Government(The cost incurred by KPLC in operating and maintaining Rural Electrification schemes (last mile) distribution network owned by REA...this cost is normally Government billed...currently accumulated to over Ksh 18B... And then you will hear the government debt of ksh.18bn has been equalised to write off the amount of money Government has on-lent to KPLC. This is a crazy LIVE possibility, it worsens their working capital further...netting off current asset with a long term liability
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,636 Location: NAIROBI
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Fyatu wrote:kayhara wrote:Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. Run for your dear life brother and don't look back like Lot's wife lest you turn into a mound of salt. This one is headed the KQ way. I have sold my holdings today (abp ksh. 3.96, sell price 3.20). Trust me, having been burnt to recognition not once, not twice...a couple of times, i know what i am talking about. Next year the balance sheet will be on negative equity and next year part one KPLC will be on its death bed having financed Jubilee kumi tena campaigns for 2022. Just observe KPLC operations(staff included) in your locality and decide whether this is a company you are proud to own. I dont think KPLC will slide into negative equity soon....Although they will continue having negative working capital . Refinancing of their short term loans into long term is ongoing. Much of the gist is obsolesce Inventories and write-off of government receivables. There is a possibility they can make a Loss when they announce their numbers later in October . if this holds, its primarily due to write off of these receivables from Government(The cost incurred by KPLC in operating and maintaining Rural Electrification schemes (last mile) distribution network owned by REA...this cost is normally Government billed...currently accumulated to over Ksh 18B... And then you will hear the government debt of ksh.18bn has been equalised to write off the amount of money Government has on-lent to KPLC. This is a crazy LIVE possibility, it worsens their working capital further...netting off current asset with a long term liability The argument will be it will reduce the debt load of kenya power,interest payments. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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kayhara wrote:Niuze holding niingonje pale chini, what's the long term picture ama we are looking at a future monkey. Kayhara SURELY you cannot be serious. This thing is worse than scrap metal! FLEE the Casino (NSE) NOWWWWWW before it kills you dead!
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The tariff hike has once again been rejected. Stay away from GoK controlled firms and set up a helpline to talk you down anytime you feel like investing in one. Quote:Energy Secretary Charles Keter has rejected Kenya Power’s bid to increase electricity tariffs, a move than now offers relief to consumers but deals a blow to the utility company that was betting on new prices to reverse profit drops. The firm has hinged the recovery of its earnings on the new tariffs after issuing a profit warning for the second year in a row. “We will not increase any tariff, what we are going to do is to work on methods of mitigating that, but as you are aware we have new, cheaper power plants like Turkana wind,” Mr Keter said. “A company can issue profit warning depending on its financial position. As a government we are okay with it (profit warning),” he said. https://www.businessdail...88002-ojoo1z/index.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2018 Posts: 292
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wukan wrote:The tariff hike has once again been rejected. Stay away from GoK controlled firms and set up a helpline to talk you down anytime you feel like investing in one. Quote:Energy Secretary Charles Keter has rejected Kenya Power’s bid to increase electricity tariffs, a move than now offers relief to consumers but deals a blow to the utility company that was betting on new prices to reverse profit drops. The firm has hinged the recovery of its earnings on the new tariffs after issuing a profit warning for the second year in a row. “We will not increase any tariff, what we are going to do is to work on methods of mitigating that, but as you are aware we have new, cheaper power plants like Turkana wind,” Mr Keter said. “A company can issue profit warning depending on its financial position. As a government we are okay with it (profit warning),” he said. https://www.businessdail...88002-ojoo1z/index.html
Actually the tariff review hasn't been declined....its an ongoing process that will result in either tariff adjustment upward for certain customer category or direct transfer of resources from National treasury to kplc
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,050 Location: Nairobi
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:wukan wrote:The tariff hike has once again been rejected. Stay away from GoK controlled firms and set up a helpline to talk you down anytime you feel like investing in one. Quote:Energy Secretary Charles Keter has rejected Kenya Power’s bid to increase electricity tariffs, a move than now offers relief to consumers but deals a blow to the utility company that was betting on new prices to reverse profit drops. The firm has hinged the recovery of its earnings on the new tariffs after issuing a profit warning for the second year in a row. “We will not increase any tariff, what we are going to do is to work on methods of mitigating that, but as you are aware we have new, cheaper power plants like Turkana wind,” Mr Keter said. “A company can issue profit warning depending on its financial position. As a government we are okay with it (profit warning),” he said. https://www.businessdail...88002-ojoo1z/index.html
Actually the tariff review hasn't been declined....its an ongoing process that will result in either tariff adjustment upward for certain customer category or direct transfer of resources from National treasury to kplc The latter is interesting. How does it work? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:wukan wrote:The tariff hike has once again been rejected. Stay away from GoK controlled firms and set up a helpline to talk you down anytime you feel like investing in one. Quote:Energy Secretary Charles Keter has rejected Kenya Power’s bid to increase electricity tariffs, a move than now offers relief to consumers but deals a blow to the utility company that was betting on new prices to reverse profit drops. The firm has hinged the recovery of its earnings on the new tariffs after issuing a profit warning for the second year in a row. “We will not increase any tariff, what we are going to do is to work on methods of mitigating that, but as you are aware we have new, cheaper power plants like Turkana wind,” Mr Keter said. “A company can issue profit warning depending on its financial position. As a government we are okay with it (profit warning),” he said. https://www.businessdail...88002-ojoo1z/index.html
Actually the tariff review hasn't been declined....its an ongoing process that will result in either tariff adjustment upward for certain customer category or direct transfer of resources from National treasury to kplc The latter is interesting. How does it work? The expected tariff jump was as a result of increased power purchase costs expected...Olkaria V will need 10B in new revenues per year, ethiopia almost similar amount....not to add many new solars projects...ANYWAY, the government letter of support given to generation firms gives a leeway of GOK payment to generation firms incase kplc is unable to pay due to lack of revenue provision in the tariff....like the Government paid 7B to lake turkana wind power
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,636 Location: NAIROBI
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:wukan wrote:The tariff hike has once again been rejected. Stay away from GoK controlled firms and set up a helpline to talk you down anytime you feel like investing in one. Quote:Energy Secretary Charles Keter has rejected Kenya Power’s bid to increase electricity tariffs, a move than now offers relief to consumers but deals a blow to the utility company that was betting on new prices to reverse profit drops. The firm has hinged the recovery of its earnings on the new tariffs after issuing a profit warning for the second year in a row. “We will not increase any tariff, what we are going to do is to work on methods of mitigating that, but as you are aware we have new, cheaper power plants like Turkana wind,” Mr Keter said. “A company can issue profit warning depending on its financial position. As a government we are okay with it (profit warning),” he said. https://www.businessdail...88002-ojoo1z/index.html
Actually the tariff review hasn't been declined....its an ongoing process that will result in either tariff adjustment upward for certain customer category or direct transfer of resources from National treasury to kplc The latter is interesting. How does it work? The expected tariff jump was as a result of increased power purchase costs expected...Olkaria V will need 10B in new revenues per year, ethiopia almost similar amount....not to add many new solars projects...ANYWAY, the government letter of support given to generation firms gives a leeway of GOK payment to generation firms incase kplc is unable to pay due to lack of revenue provision in the tariff....like the Government paid 7B to lake turkana wind power For Ethiopia case the power stations is not yet ready,KPLC still has some buying time. After Olkaria 1 Unit 6 is done in 2021,KENGEN takes a pause so as not to supply us with too much power. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,050 Location: Nairobi
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:wukan wrote:The tariff hike has once again been rejected. Stay away from GoK controlled firms and set up a helpline to talk you down anytime you feel like investing in one. Quote:Energy Secretary Charles Keter has rejected Kenya Power’s bid to increase electricity tariffs, a move than now offers relief to consumers but deals a blow to the utility company that was betting on new prices to reverse profit drops. The firm has hinged the recovery of its earnings on the new tariffs after issuing a profit warning for the second year in a row. “We will not increase any tariff, what we are going to do is to work on methods of mitigating that, but as you are aware we have new, cheaper power plants like Turkana wind,” Mr Keter said. “A company can issue profit warning depending on its financial position. As a government we are okay with it (profit warning),” he said. https://www.businessdail...88002-ojoo1z/index.html
Actually the tariff review hasn't been declined....its an ongoing process that will result in either tariff adjustment upward for certain customer category or direct transfer of resources from National treasury to kplc The latter is interesting. How does it work? The expected tariff jump was as a result of increased power purchase costs expected...Olkaria V will need 10B in new revenues per year, ethiopia almost similar amount....not to add many new solars projects...ANYWAY, the government letter of support given to generation firms gives a leeway of GOK payment to generation firms incase kplc is unable to pay due to lack of revenue provision in the tariff....like the Government paid 7B to lake turkana wind power So if it only kicks in if and when KPLC defaults, how does it benefit KPLC shareholders? Was the payment of 7bn to LTWP made by GoK on behalf of KPLC or KETRACO? How could KPLC off-take power when the T-line was not ready/connected? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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