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Xymalos
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 4:14:37 PM
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I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?
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Swenani
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 4:20:35 PM
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Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


Sell it as one parcel
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Xymalos
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:03:25 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


Sell it as one parcel


Sewani - I had not planned to sell. But if it were you, where would you put the money if you sold the land? I ask just incase there are other better options than farming.
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Gathige
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:46:55 PM
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Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


@ Xymalos, Congratulations for achieving such. That's quite a sizeable chunk of land. Unless you have engaged an agronomist, and got recommendations fruits may not due very well in that area. Avocados for such wont.

My 2 banglapesa suggestions,

1. Fence the place with good cedar posts and do a chain link fence, mbuzi tight.
2. Put up a temporary structure and get a caretaker full time for a salary of not more than 5k a month.
3. Plough the place and harrow, for max 50k
4. Buy good boma Rhodes seeds, and plant before the rains in April
5. First year you get like 1000 bales . Harvesting and balling max 100 bob per bale. Sell each bale at 300 bob for you make 200k . Year 2 production doubles am deathly by year 3-5 yrs due to regeration you may get up to 300k per year

Minimal costs, no much risks and very high demand for hay during the dry season. They when you retire there you can do your hobby farming.

Risks.

1. Maasai goats and cows during the dry season. The herders can cut the fence if your caretakers winks.

Good luck

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YoungMulla
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:42:14 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


@ Xymalos, Congratulations for achieving such. That's quite a sizeable chunk of land. Unless you have engaged an agronomist, and got recommendations fruits may not due very well in that area. Avocados for such wont.

My 2 banglapesa suggestions,

1. Fence the place with good cedar posts and do a chain link fence, mbuzi tight.
2. Put up a temporary structure and get a caretaker full time for a salary of not more than 5k a month.
3. Plough the place and harrow, for max 50k
4. Buy good boma Rhodes seeds, and plant before the rains in April
5. First year you get like 1000 bales . Harvesting and balling max 100 bob per bale. Sell each bale at 300 bob for you make 200k . Year 2 production doubles am deathly by year 3-5 yrs due to regeration you may get up to 300k per year

Minimal costs, no much risks and very high demand for hay during the dry season. They when you retire there you can do your hobby farming.

Risks.

1. Maasai goats and cows during the dry season. The herders can cut the fence if your caretakers winks.

Good luck



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YoungMulla
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:44:01 PM
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Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


That's a good chunk you have there.

If it's near the town area why not develop a few plots and build rentals?
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Xymalos
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:05:10 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


@ Xymalos, Congratulations for achieving such. That's quite a sizeable chunk of land. Unless you have engaged an agronomist, and got recommendations fruits may not due very well in that area. Avocados for such wont.

My 2 banglapesa suggestions,

1. Fence the place with good cedar posts and do a chain link fence, mbuzi tight.
2. Put up a temporary structure and get a caretaker full time for a salary of not more than 5k a month.
3. Plough the place and harrow, for max 50k
4. Buy good boma Rhodes seeds, and plant before the rains in April
5. First year you get like 1000 bales . Harvesting and balling max 100 bob per bale. Sell each bale at 300 bob for you make 200k . Year 2 production doubles am deathly by year 3-5 yrs due to regeration you may get up to 300k per year

Minimal costs, no much risks and very high demand for hay during the dry season. They when you retire there you can do your hobby farming.

Risks.

1. Maasai goats and cows during the dry season. The herders can cut the fence if your caretakers winks.

Good luck


@Gathige - thank you, this is great suggestion. Fencing already done with chain link wire and treated eucalyptus posts (cedar banned). Fencing keeps Maasai goats and cows out. Need to move to #2 .. a temporary and care taker. Definitely a project to consider. Not engaged agronomist yet - fruits idea was my thought.
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Xymalos
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:13:36 PM
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YoungMulla wrote:
Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?


That's a good chink you have there.

If it's near the town area why not develop a few plots and build rentals?


@YoungMulla - its a farming retirement project. I have land for rentals elsewhere. So, looking for farming ideas.
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S.Mutaga III
#9 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2019 12:37:14 AM
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Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?

I will tell you exactly what you don't want to hear. Subdivide and sell the plots. Use that money to build flats in a densely populated area. You are not getting any younger and the last thing you want is hustling at 80. If you sell that land as a whole you will forego a significant amount of money and whoever you sell to will most likely subdivide and do exactly what you are afraid of doing. You are much safer collecting rent at 70 than chasing around farm workers.This is a no-brainer. You can use the rental income to lease land and farm anyway. But the security of rental income in a high density area overshadows any other option you have because of age.
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Xymalos
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:15:24 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
Xymalos wrote:
I have 5 acres, with borehole water that I intend to use to generate income in retirement. I am thinking of low risk hustle free agriculture (hobby agriculture??) .. like growing fruits (passion, mangoes, avocados). What would you suggest I do with the 5 acres (of course not subdivide)?

I will tell you exactly what you don't want to hear. Subdivide and sell the plots. Use that money to build flats in a densely populated area. You are not getting any younger and the last thing you want is hustling at 80. If you sell that land as a whole you will forego a significant amount of money and whoever you sell to will most likely subdivide and do exactly what you are afraid of doing. You are much safer collecting rent at 70 than chasing around farm workers.This is a no-brainer. You can use the rental income to lease land and farm anyway. But the security of rental income in a high density area overshadows any other option you have because of age.

@Mutaga - I have a retirement plan/income from an international organization that I intend to convert into an annuity (or just drawdown) generating hustle free income for life. That is why apartments in a dense area, even being a good idea, is not for me. Ideas/insights into hustle free agriculture is what I am looking for.
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