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[quote=T-Bag]Authorities to Taj Mall owners: Bring it down in two weeks Read more at: https://www.standardmedi...ng-it-down-in-two-weeks
This Indian Taj Mall owner can go to hell, this kind of arrogance must be arrested ASAP. I dont think any African would speak so rudely to Indian authorities if they built on road reserves in Delhi. I can only imagine how rude he is to his employees ! https://twitter.com/citi...tus/1030023458846064640[/quote] he is 100% Kenyan and so he is speaking to his own governments officials. Hata wewe your ancestor must have migrated from some other part of Africa to finally settle in this land now you call Kenya. Or else proof to us that your great grand father was zinjanthropus whose remains were found along magadi road then we will belive you are original Kenyan. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? The keyword there is 'if'. There are still plenty of buildings across Nairobi with the dreaded red 'x' on them that are still standing. Why all the gusto to go after one of the city's largest real estate developments first? I don't know how vital the Chiromo feeder road is, but I'm yet to hear of a complaint from any pedestrian/road user. Besides, I'd venture to say that the contractor probably had plans to improve the road(s) once construction was done.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,569
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Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? Not to worry Sonko is currently eating humble pie as construction work resumes. Shamba la mawe Nairobi ina wenyewe 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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deadpoet wrote:Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? The keyword there is 'if'. There are still plenty of buildings across Nairobi with the dreaded red 'x' on them that are still standing. Why all the gusto to go after one of the city's largest real estate developments first? I don't know how vital the Chiromo feeder road is, but I'm yet to hear of a complaint from any pedestrian/road user. Besides, I'd venture to say that the contractor probably had plans to improve the road(s) once construction was done. One should restrict their construction activities to within their plot, not encroaching on neighbours land or public spaces. It doesn't matter how big or small your project is. Or whether the encroached road is busy or not. Or whether the public complains or not.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The river is not moving.... 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,569
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hardwood wrote:deadpoet wrote:Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? The keyword there is 'if'. There are still plenty of buildings across Nairobi with the dreaded red 'x' on them that are still standing. Why all the gusto to go after one of the city's largest real estate developments first? I don't know how vital the Chiromo feeder road is, but I'm yet to hear of a complaint from any pedestrian/road user. Besides, I'd venture to say that the contractor probably had plans to improve the road(s) once construction was done. One should restrict their construction activities to within their plot, not encroaching on neighbours land or public spaces. It doesn't matter how big or small your project is. Or whether the encroached road is busy or not. Or whether the public complains or not. No there is something called a traffic management plan for the big projects. Developers takes some public land(chiromo close) then offer to better the roads in the surrounding areas(westlands road) to accommodate the project. Developer's discuss these things with the planning department. That's how it's done in global cities.
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wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:deadpoet wrote:Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? The keyword there is 'if'. There are still plenty of buildings across Nairobi with the dreaded red 'x' on them that are still standing. Why all the gusto to go after one of the city's largest real estate developments first? I don't know how vital the Chiromo feeder road is, but I'm yet to hear of a complaint from any pedestrian/road user. Besides, I'd venture to say that the contractor probably had plans to improve the road(s) once construction was done. One should restrict their construction activities to within their plot, not encroaching on neighbours land or public spaces. It doesn't matter how big or small your project is. Or whether the encroached road is busy or not. Or whether the public complains or not. No there is something called a traffic management plan for the big projects. Developers takes some public land(chiromo close) then offer to better the roads in the surrounding areas(westlands road) to accommodate the project. Developer's discuss these things with the planning department. That's how it's done in global cities. If they are legit, why did the contractor feel that they have to pay a bribe? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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move the ocean too https://mobile.nation.co.kepunda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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You can reclaim land from the sea "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 496
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murchr wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:deadpoet wrote:Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? The keyword there is 'if'. There are still plenty of buildings across Nairobi with the dreaded red 'x' on them that are still standing. Why all the gusto to go after one of the city's largest real estate developments first? I don't know how vital the Chiromo feeder road is, but I'm yet to hear of a complaint from any pedestrian/road user. Besides, I'd venture to say that the contractor probably had plans to improve the road(s) once construction was done. One should restrict their construction activities to within their plot, not encroaching on neighbours land or public spaces. It doesn't matter how big or small your project is. Or whether the encroached road is busy or not. Or whether the public complains or not. No there is something called a traffic management plan for the big projects. Developers takes some public land(chiromo close) then offer to better the roads in the surrounding areas(westlands road) to accommodate the project. Developer's discuss these things with the planning department. That's how it's done in global cities. If they are legit, why did the contractor feel that they have to pay a bribe? Alleged bribe... Also remember, the owners of Kempinsky used all the resources at their disposal to halt the project, and managed to delay construction for almost two years. If there had been any impropriety, it would have come to light then, imho
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murchr wrote:You can reclaim land from the sea Weston 2. Guarded by Prison guards. hehehe.....haka kata-grab hata Indian Ocean?
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Njunge wrote:murchr wrote:You can reclaim land from the sea Weston 2. Guarded by Prison guards. hehehe.....haka kata-grab hata Indian Ocean? Kama nema imekubali ni sawa This is reclaimed land in Dubai  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,569
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murchr wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:deadpoet wrote:Swenani wrote:deadpoet wrote:Stopping of Avic towers is ridiculous. Do they plan on blowing up seven high-rise towers because of sidewalks the contractors were forced to build in the first place? If they have encroached on public land, why can't it be demolished? The keyword there is 'if'. There are still plenty of buildings across Nairobi with the dreaded red 'x' on them that are still standing. Why all the gusto to go after one of the city's largest real estate developments first? I don't know how vital the Chiromo feeder road is, but I'm yet to hear of a complaint from any pedestrian/road user. Besides, I'd venture to say that the contractor probably had plans to improve the road(s) once construction was done. One should restrict their construction activities to within their plot, not encroaching on neighbours land or public spaces. It doesn't matter how big or small your project is. Or whether the encroached road is busy or not. Or whether the public complains or not. No there is something called a traffic management plan for the big projects. Developers takes some public land(chiromo close) then offer to better the roads in the surrounding areas(westlands road) to accommodate the project. Developer's discuss these things with the planning department. That's how it's done in global cities. If they are legit, why did the contractor feel that they have to pay a bribe? Building construction everywhere whether New york or Mumbai is notorious for shake downs. Anyone doing a serious project has dealt with Kathenge and his boys. You see a beautiful city rising it's like seeing a sausage, you don't want to know how it is made.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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murchr wrote:You can reclaim land from the sea RIPARIAN land refers to land next to rivers and streams, as usual our extremely stupid extortionist choo-nolist who are screwed for hogwash media jobs. Extremely stupid move. There are no laws about encroaching "sea riparian land", just beach front property, you can build provided your building is not eaten up by tides. A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Njunge wrote:murchr wrote:You can reclaim land from the sea Weston 2. Guarded by Prison guards. hehehe.....haka kata-grab hata Indian Ocean? This is too much now. If you eat too much your stomach will burst. Also kwani hii mshahara ya 1.4m per month is extendable like a rubber band mpaka it can buy choppers and build hotels all over mpaka in the ocean ("oceanperian" land)?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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People never see capital as a collective thing - narrow myopic brains see it as belonging to the person who has broken the law. Considering that "the law" is actually another made up thing. Anyway... my point is - you don't have to destroy capital to punish the transgressor. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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masukuma wrote:People never see capital as a collective thing - narrow myopic brains see it as belonging to the person who has broken the law. Considering that "the law" is actually another made up thing. Anyway... my point is - you don't have to destroy capital to punish the transgressor. There would be no loss of capital if the right thing was done in the first place. Correcting historical wrongs is always hard. Kerala India is going through the same debate. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:People never see capital as a collective thing - narrow myopic brains see it as belonging to the person who has broken the law. Considering that "the law" is actually another made up thing. Anyway... my point is - you don't have to destroy capital to punish the transgressor. There would be no loss of capital if the right thing was done in the first place. Correcting historical wrongs is always hard. Kerala India is going through the same debate. Yes... because of some mind block people seem to consistently MISREAD what I write and reply to what they think I have written. Can someone here repeat what they think I was asking for and quote where exactly I said what they think I said. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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