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Why can't we just move the river!!
Kusadikika
#1 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 4:13:02 PM
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This is so funny yet very profound, it deserves its own thread.

In Western countries they have left leaning and right leaning political ideologies. In Kenya there are those on the move the building side and those on the move the river side. The law is what we decide it is vs there is a law that we should abide by.

On one end of this political divide is Ferdinand Waititu and on the other is Miguna Miguna. We all lie somewhere in between those extremes.

I found it funny because of how Waititu said it but this is no laughing matter. For the longest time the ruling ideology in Kenya has been the move the river ideology.
murchr
#2 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 4:18:48 PM
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To who's land?
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Angelica _ann
#3 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 4:35:37 PM
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murchr wrote:
To who's land?


When @masukuma & Man Waititu are reasoning at same level, then things are crazy!!!!
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alma1
#4 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 7:30:47 PM
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leo niko speechless
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tycho
#5 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 7:37:21 PM
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alma1 wrote:
leo niko speechless


Kwani ulikutana na yule beauty queen ulirequestiwa utuletee tumuone?
mkenyan
#6 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 8:59:30 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
To who's land?


When @masukuma & Man Waititu are reasoning at same level, then things are crazy!!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Swenani
#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:27:07 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
To who's land?


When @masukuma & Man Waititu are reasoning at same level, then things are crazy!!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Njunge
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:37:20 AM
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So, the bugger has a petrol station that stands on public land in Nairobi. If i were Sonko, i would send SANY and his relatives there without thinking twice!
hardwood
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:06:19 PM
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Waititu is right from an engineering point of view but wrong from a legal perspective. He is right that a river can be tamed or moved a few meters away or canalized so that development and nature can coexist. This has been done in many countries where the rivers, lakes, and even oceans have been tamed. The only problem is that our laws do not allow that and land allocations and developments on riparian land are illegal.
limanika
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:51:37 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Waititu is right from an engineering point of view but wrong from a legal perspective. He is right that a river can be tamed or moved a few meters away or canalized so that development and nature can coexist. This has been done in many countries where the rivers, lakes, and even oceans have been tamed. The only problem is that our laws do not allow that and land allocations and developments on riparian land are illegal.

He's wrong even from engineering point of view. To start with, which incident did he have in mind? Ukay or the other mall? B4 suggesting a river be moved, an engineer will do detailed investigations for the specific case to confirm a) if there land available, b) social and environmental impacts c) cost etc etc. When did wai23 do his research? By the way I didn't support him, I feel vindicated. #kafakafogo#
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