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Thitifini
#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 08, 2018 9:09:26 PM
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murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
I'd blame this on commercialization
of thinking in the civil service.

Example, you will find the Planning & Economic Secretary of Kenya spending 80% of his time in foreign trips raking in per diems, leaving junior economists to do the country plans and policies.

The juniors grow up waiting for promotions so they can do the foreign trips (and build Runda mansions like their former seniors) leaving their new juniors to do the work.

At the end no coherent country plan as no senior did any mentorship to juniors.


So how do welders come in here?


Well, how does one create a policy on welders while attending workshops in Geneva?

Just an example. If top planners are not involved, there's no way we can have sound policies eg for such professions.

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murchr
#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:28:39 PM
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Thitifini wrote:
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
I'd blame this on commercialization
of thinking in the civil service.

Example, you will find the Planning & Economic Secretary of Kenya spending 80% of his time in foreign trips raking in per diems, leaving junior economists to do the country plans and policies.

The juniors grow up waiting for promotions so they can do the foreign trips (and build Runda mansions like their former seniors) leaving their new juniors to do the work.

At the end no coherent country plan as no senior did any mentorship to juniors.


So how do welders come in here?


Well, how does one create a policy on welders while attending workshops in Geneva?

Just an example. If top planners are not involved, there's no way we can have sound policies eg for such professions.


There's no way Kenya Polytechnic can teach welding if policy makers are in Geneva?
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Thitifini
#23 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2018 1:46:57 AM
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murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
I'd blame this on commercialization
of thinking in the civil service.

Example, you will find the Planning & Economic Secretary of Kenya spending 80% of his time in foreign trips raking in per diems, leaving junior economists to do the country plans and policies.

The juniors grow up waiting for promotions so they can do the foreign trips (and build Runda mansions like their former seniors) leaving their new juniors to do the work.

At the end no coherent country plan as no senior did any mentorship to juniors.


So how do welders come in here?


Well, how does one create a policy on welders while attending workshops in Geneva?

Just an example. If top planners are not involved, there's no way we can have sound policies eg for such professions.


There's no way Kenya Polytechnic can teach welding if policy makers are in Geneva?


You mean the polytec ama the University?smile .

One of them no longer exists.

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murchr
#24 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2018 2:47:00 AM
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Thitifini wrote:
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
murchr wrote:
Thitifini wrote:
I'd blame this on commercialization
of thinking in the civil service.

Example, you will find the Planning & Economic Secretary of Kenya spending 80% of his time in foreign trips raking in per diems, leaving junior economists to do the country plans and policies.

The juniors grow up waiting for promotions so they can do the foreign trips (and build Runda mansions like their former seniors) leaving their new juniors to do the work.

At the end no coherent country plan as no senior did any mentorship to juniors.


So how do welders come in here?


Well, how does one create a policy on welders while attending workshops in Geneva?

Just an example. If top planners are not involved, there's no way we can have sound policies eg for such professions.


There's no way Kenya Polytechnic can teach welding if policy makers are in Geneva?


You mean the polytec ama the University?smile .

One of them no longer exists.


Now that's the problem. Not Geneva. Those policy makers came up with that idiotic idea of converting polytechnics to universities to satisfy the obsession of being a degree holder.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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#25 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 8:23:16 AM
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There have been ads on daily nation for East African Institute of Welding based at Lunga Lunga rd

They say they have the first international welding certification in Kenya

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mpobiz
#26 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 9:38:31 AM
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I have been waiting for a comment from our own (wazua) resident welder in vain. It seems he has either deliberately kept off or he has not heard about this discussion.
I had thought to my self that at last there is some professionalism in this sector apart from what we experience out there in juakali.
Amsheni yeye aseme kitu. We need his input.
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#27 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 10:32:16 AM
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I saw a pipeline being put hapo northern bypass and was amazed by what they were doing. Something like this. Have never seen such a huge pipe. That would need a skilled welder.
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#28 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 11:46:48 AM
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So impunity is the only qualified vendor?
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#29 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2018 3:36:38 PM
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Swenani wrote:
So impunity is the only qualified vendor?


C'mon. That was a nickname derived by Wazuans. I am quite certain the fellow has never held a welding rod holder in his hands. I doubt he can chomelea his plastic karayas with any success.smile
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Impunity
#30 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:38:56 PM
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Njunge wrote:
Swenani wrote:
So impunity is the only qualified vendor?


C'mon. That was a nickname derived by Wazuans. I am quite certain the fellow has never held a welding rod holder in his hands. I doubt he can chomelea his plastic karayas with any success.smile


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Njunge
#31 Posted : Sunday, August 19, 2018 11:20:05 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Njunge wrote:
Swenani wrote:
So impunity is the only qualified vendor?


C'mon. That was a nickname derived by Wazuans. I am quite certain the fellow has never held a welding rod holder in his hands. I doubt he can chomelea his plastic karayas with any success.smile


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