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Sugar Crackdown- What exactly is going on?
hardwood
#41 Posted : Sunday, June 24, 2018 10:02:08 PM
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kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.
hardwood
#42 Posted : Sunday, June 24, 2018 10:45:42 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.


A 10 ton lorry carries about 100 bags of maize. To supply 200000 bags of maize you need 2000 lorry deliveries. If you delivered 2 lorries per day considering the queues you'd need to supply for 1000 days i.e. about 3yrs non stop.
Impunity
#43 Posted : Sunday, June 24, 2018 11:57:25 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
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Location: Masada
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.


A 10 ton lorry carries about 100 bags of maize. To supply 200000 bags of maize you need 2000 lorry deliveries. If you delivered 2 lorries per day considering the queues you'd need to supply for 1000 days i.e. about 3yrs non stop.


This is Kenya,may be she used a trailer to deliver the bags.
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masukuma
#44 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2018 5:47:41 AM
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Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.


A 10 ton lorry carries about 100 bags of maize. To supply 200000 bags of maize you need 2000 lorry deliveries. If you delivered 2 lorries per day considering the queues you'd need to supply for 1000 days i.e. about 3yrs non stop.


This is Kenya,may be she used a trailer to deliver the bags.

Or perhaps a simpler situation - Muhammad goes to the Mountain other than expect the Mountain to go to Muhammad - she just "buys" off everyone who is queuing! You accept to sell to her - she waves her hand and you are allowed to deliver your maize under her name. She doesn't have to move around and look for sellers - they will all congregate at the NCPB deports.
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Rahatupu
#45 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2018 8:29:19 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.


A 10 ton lorry carries about 100 bags of maize. To supply 200000 bags of maize you need 2000 lorry deliveries. If you delivered 2 lorries per day considering the queues you'd need to supply for 1000 days i.e. about 3yrs non stop.


This is Kenya,may be she used a trailer to deliver the bags.

Or perhaps a simpler situation - Muhammad goes to the Mountain other than expect the Mountain to go to Muhammad - she just "buys" off everyone who is queuing! You accept to sell to her - she waves her hand and you are allowed to deliver your maize under her name. She doesn't have to move around and look for sellers - they will all congregate at the NCPB deports.


Her selling price was astronomical @6500 per bag when the government subsidized 2kg @90.........how more super can her profit be?
kawi254
#46 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2018 10:31:41 AM
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Joined: 2/20/2015
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.


A 10 ton lorry carries about 100 bags of maize. To supply 200000 bags of maize you need 2000 lorry deliveries. If you delivered 2 lorries per day considering the queues you'd need to supply for 1000 days i.e. about 3yrs non stop.


This is Kenya,may be she used a trailer to deliver the bags.

Or perhaps a simpler situation - Muhammad goes to the Mountain other than expect the Mountain to go to Muhammad - she just "buys" off everyone who is queuing! You accept to sell to her - she waves her hand and you are allowed to deliver your maize under her name. She doesn't have to move around and look for sellers - they will all congregate at the NCPB deports.


Yes, this is what happened. She facilitates your lorry to deliver Maize under her name for 200/= haircut per bag. You get your cash immediately and you save on cost of lorry hire per day as you queue, avoid risk of your products being rejected because of moisture levels/aflatoxin <-- No wonder NCPB is holding 3Billion toxic maize because 'system ni ya majambazi'
simonkabz
#47 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2018 10:43:23 AM
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Njunge wrote:
What we are seeing is a scheme from far back muted by RAI. His aim all along has been to take up the economy of Western Kenya and have it by himself. To do so, he started by buying off former PanPaper and it was aptly named RAI paper. It must also not be forgotten that his family owns West Kenya famous for Kabras Sugar, Kabras Rally, Kabras Rugby and Kabras Hockey. Anything wrong with that? Let's just say no. To accomplish his ambitions, RAI mooted a plan to bring down the entire sugar industry. This would play into the grand scheme and he would eventually buy off the sugar plants for a song just as he did PanPaper. He inherited the Chaimanship of the then millers association and by extension ,he had a big say in the then Kenya Sugar Board. During his tenure, zoning was abolished and this meant that, despite not having a nucleus of it's own, West Kenya was able to poach cane from other millers. They would in turn pay cash for the crop thereby overiding other millers and their contractual agreements with outgrowers. This explains the current situation of the sugar industry in Western. Now, the crook did not leave it there. He went ahead and roped in major sugar sellers in the country namely Parlea,YH,Rising Star,Mbote,Kanini,Diamond,Jamaa amongst others. Together, they would hoard sugar in 2016 and that brought a cry from the opposition and the general citizenship. Uhuru's government heeded by allowing importation to cushion consumers while checking the ever rising price of sugar. Little did the government know they were playing into the hands of this crooks. Apart from importing both legally and illegally, WK has been involved in buying immature cane from unsuspecting farmers in Western region using profits from the imported sugar.The aim being to keep other sugar industries out of business until they close down. What should the government, apart from arresting this crooks and locking them up,do?

1. Ban sugar importation forthwith.
2. Instead of destroying the impounded sugar, distribute it to the 4 sugar mills which have capacity to refine namely, Chemelil, Nzoia,Sony and Mumias and then put it back to the market.
3. Close down any sugar mill that has no known nucleus of it's own.
4. Re-introduce zoning.
5. If any shortfall is to be imported, this should be done by existing millers.
8. Limit packaging and branding of sugar to existing millers only.




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hardwood
#48 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 5:31:24 PM
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kawi254 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Has the old woman who was paid 1.3B for supposedly supplying NCPB with over 200,000 bags of maize even been questioned?


When you queue at NCPB depot for days to deliver wheat or Maize and get jumped on queue by connected dealers is when you know cartels ran the show. Most farmers rather than queue for days to deliver Maize and have payments delayed for months/year settled for a 200/= haircut per bag with the woman and pocket cash

In a willing buyer willing seller country the woman did no wrong.The woman is down to earth and known to many farmers in Kitale . ..so down to earth that she must be getting the financing elsewhere for spot buying hence She is just a front


Sawa. Problem is that zeros were added to the delivery note and 2,000 bags miraculously became 200,000 which Wanjiku has to pay. Such a "hard working" grandma.


A 10 ton lorry carries about 100 bags of maize. To supply 200000 bags of maize you need 2000 lorry deliveries. If you delivered 2 lorries per day considering the queues you'd need to supply for 1000 days i.e. about 3yrs non stop.


This is Kenya,may be she used a trailer to deliver the bags.

Or perhaps a simpler situation - Muhammad goes to the Mountain other than expect the Mountain to go to Muhammad - she just "buys" off everyone who is queuing! You accept to sell to her - she waves her hand and you are allowed to deliver your maize under her name. She doesn't have to move around and look for sellers - they will all congregate at the NCPB deports.


Yes, this is what happened. She facilitates your lorry to deliver Maize under her name for 200/= haircut per bag. You get your cash immediately and you save on cost of lorry hire per day as you queue, avoid risk of your products being rejected because of moisture levels/aflatoxin <-- No wonder NCPB is holding 3Billion toxic maize because 'system ni ya majambazi'


It doesn't add up....



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