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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Dont... Corporate bonds in Kenya are bogus... Apart from notes issued by Scom and EABL. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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maka wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Dont... Corporate bonds in Kenya are bogus... Apart from notes issued by Scom and EABL. You will be left crying on the streets of Nairobi with nobody/nowhere to turn!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Dont... Corporate bonds in Kenya are bogus... Apart from notes issued by Scom and EABL. You will be left crying on the streets of Nairobi with nobody/nowhere to turn!!! @whiteowl if you have to ask, it's already a bad sign!
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Dont... Corporate bonds in Kenya are bogus... Apart from notes issued by Scom and EABL. You will be left crying on the streets of Nairobi with nobody/nowhere to turn!!! @whiteowl if you have to ask, it's already a bad sign! Hiyo wachia fund managers who can lose other people's money without flinching!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Dont... Corporate bonds in Kenya are bogus... Apart from notes issued by Scom and EABL. You will be left crying on the streets of Nairobi with nobody/nowhere to turn!!! @whiteowl if you have to ask, it's already a bad sign! Hiyo wachia fund managers who can lose other people's money without flinching!!! Thank you all for your input.One red flag I'd noted is Centum selling the remaining stake of the parent company afew months ago.Those guys have a record of cashing out at the "right" time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Where is the prospectus? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,175 Location: nairobi
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whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Is this shylock mature enough to issue a credible bond? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/28/2016 Posts: 36 Location: nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Is this shylock mature enough to issue a credible bond? I know these guys. very good and stable business.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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kediveKed wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Is this shylock mature enough to issue a credible bond? I know these guys. very good and stable business. Even Chase Bank was like that ..... In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Angelica _ann wrote:Where is the prospectus?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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... out of curiosity, what the interest rate and tenor of this bond?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Angelica _ann wrote:kediveKed wrote:mlennyma wrote:whiteowl wrote:Are there any red flags before someone considers investing in this company? Is this shylock mature enough to issue a credible bond? I know these guys. very good and stable business. Even Chase Bank was like that ..... Imperial was also a good bank. Cytonn is fruit falling from heaven..... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Angelica _ann wrote:Where is the prospectus? 1.Issue Size: KES 400mn; 2.Tenors: 1 year, and a 2 year; 3.Yields:1 year-16.5%; and 2 year- 17.0%. What's the simplest way to share a PDF here?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Why not borrow this sort of cash from their banker? whiteowl wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Where is the prospectus? 1.Issue Size: KES 400mn; 2.Tenors: 1 year, and a 2 year; 3.Yields:1 year-16.5%; and 2 year- 17.0%. What's the simplest way to share a PDF here?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 537 Location: Nakuru
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Chaka wrote:Why not borrow this sort of cash from their banker? whiteowl wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Where is the prospectus? 1.Issue Size: KES 400mn; 2.Tenors: 1 year, and a 2 year; 3.Yields:1 year-16.5%; and 2 year- 17.0%. What's the simplest way to share a PDF here? And the yield is suspiciously high For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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winmak wrote:Chaka wrote:Why not borrow this sort of cash from their banker? whiteowl wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Where is the prospectus? 1.Issue Size: KES 400mn; 2.Tenors: 1 year, and a 2 year; 3.Yields:1 year-16.5%; and 2 year- 17.0%. What's the simplest way to share a PDF here? And the yield is suspiciously high Junk bond. High return high risk!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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tony stark wrote:winmak wrote:Chaka wrote:Why not borrow this sort of cash from their banker? whiteowl wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Where is the prospectus? 1.Issue Size: KES 400mn; 2.Tenors: 1 year, and a 2 year; 3.Yields:1 year-16.5%; and 2 year- 17.0%. What's the simplest way to share a PDF here? And the yield is suspiciously high Junk bond. High return high risk! There is a company that pays higher for funds...we all know who it is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Hello Joined: 3/2/2018 Posts: 6 Location: Nairobi
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The yields are not suspicious! Go ahead and establish the return on their products, investors should demand higher rates based on the trading info. Also the yields factor in the risk premium,dealing with a middle tier company that is privately held.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/1/2007 Posts: 537 Location: Nakuru
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TALK'17 wrote:The yields are not suspicious! Go ahead and establish the return on their products, investors should demand higher rates based on the trading info. Also the yields factor in the risk premium,dealing with a middle tier company that is privately held. 3 posts and you are already defending a company. But thanks for the advice on risk premium. Very well noted For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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