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After 10 yrs in power, we dont expect any fresh ideas from jubilee to move this country forward. I agree The two principals should retire together. Actually we need someone to clean up. God willing am open to support Rao in 22.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Njunge wrote:Lolest! wrote:Naskia sasa kuna United Party of Kenya They may as well bring back URP. The sooner Jubilee disintegrates, the better for +254.....Na wawache vitisho baridi. WE will not vote for Ruto!! Mkiwa na nani?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” Quote:Kikuyu Elders official Munga claimed that the DP's share in government has been shared solely among his Kalenjin community, while the President is forced to apportion his 'share' with the entire country.
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Lolest! wrote:Njunge wrote:Lolest! wrote:Naskia sasa kuna United Party of Kenya They may as well bring back URP. The sooner Jubilee disintegrates, the better for +254.....Na wawache vitisho baridi. WE will not vote for Ruto!! Mkiwa na nani? Mimi, Mamake,Watoto wangu,wajukuu Julie,Kularaha,AlphaDoti na Alma  .Tuko pamoja my fren??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” That is the position and will be the position going forward and anyone who does not like it can take a walk.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” That is the position and will be the position going forward and anyone who does not like it can take a walk. What is this hate for Ruto yet he supported UMK to the core and delivered the presidency twice! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Angelica _ann wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” That is the position and will be the position going forward and anyone who does not like it can take a walk. What is this hate for Ruto yet he supported UMK to the core and delivered the presidency twice! The 1978 experiment was very very costly.Should not risk again Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” That is the position and will be the position going forward and anyone who does not like it can take a walk. What is this hate for Ruto yet he supported UMK to the core and delivered the presidency twice! Very careless talks... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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limanika wrote:After 10 yrs in power, we dont expect any fresh ideas from jubilee to move this country forward. I agree The two principals should retire together. Actually we need someone to clean up. God willing am open to support Rao in 22. Very thoughtful If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Angelica _ann wrote:[quote=Njunge][quote=hardwood]
What is this hate for Ruto yet he supported UMK to the core and delivered the presidency twice! What hate?. If i don't like the way you do things does not mean i hate you.NO!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Ruto was told to be wary of Kikuyus he didnt listen.. Kikuyus are never to be trusted.. See how Uhuru is mistreating Ruto.. There is a video going round where Uhuru ananyorosha Ruto maneno in public and Ruto is so uncomfortable...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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If the stars align for Ruto he shall be President. A group of people tried to jeopardise Toroitich but he went on. In 2012 another group thought UK can never be President went on to groom Musalia but the plan fell flat. So this discussion is useless 2022 is 4 years away. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Mawinder and et all stop blaming Kikuyus collectively for no fault of their own. Though I don't speak 4 them, or anyone 4 that matter, I think the intentions in '13 & 17' were genuine. However the trajectory things have taken e.g. corruption, maize scandals, nys, sugar scandal, power scandals, kpc scandals, etc calls for new thinking. You can actually tell what drives some of these people- some believe they get power to get rich, not to primarily serve the country. Otherwise if you extrapolate to 27'& 32' - you don't need rocket scientist to tell you +254 could become bankrupt in the name of keeping agreements
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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limanika wrote:Mawinder and et all stop blaming Kikuyus collectively for no fault of their own. Though I don't speak 4 them, or anyone 4 that matter, I think the intentions in '13 & 17' were genuine. However the trajectory things have taken e.g. corruption, maize scandals, nys, sugar scandal, power scandals, kpc scandals, etc calls for new thinking. You can actually tell what drives some of these people- some believe they get power to get rich, not to primarily serve the country. Otherwise if you extrapolate to 27'& 32' - you don't need rocket scientist to tell you +254 could become bankrupt in the name of keeping agreements Well said. I am of the opinion that, if Uhuru and Ruto abandon everything they are doing and focus on tackling corruption and dismantling corruption cartels once and for all, maybe we will change heart.....but i guess asking Ruto to tackle corruption is akin to asking a hyena to become the Chairman of a goats association!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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mawinder wrote: Ruto was told to be wary of Kikuyus he didnt listen.. Kikuyus are never to be trusted.. See how Uhuru is mistreating Ruto.. There is a video going round where Uhuru ananyorosha Ruto maneno in public and Ruto is so uncomfortable... That's a fake video
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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In the context of institutionalized corruption versus un-institutionalized corruption I vote for the latter.
Anything that weakens the whole corrupt structure is welcome.
BTW, even if Ruto is sidelined and trampled down, the day he partnered with UK is when the cat jumped out of the bag.
I wonder if this is linked to the falling of the Mugumo...
Because the Mugumo is the great King of virtue, and it's falling implies the falling of virtue.
So tutapigilia Mugumo isimame? @Masukuma ako wapi aweke lightning conductor kwa mti?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Lolest! wrote:mawinder wrote: Ruto was told to be wary of Kikuyus he didnt listen.. Kikuyus are never to be trusted.. See how Uhuru is mistreating Ruto.. There is a video going round where Uhuru ananyorosha Ruto maneno in public and Ruto is so uncomfortable... That's a fake video How is it fake??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” Quote:Kikuyu Elders official Munga claimed that the DP's share in government has been shared solely among his Kalenjin community, while the President is forced to apportion his 'share' with the entire country. We all know that Kenya is a live soap opera. I would not be surprised if it's baba is being played all along by Uhuruto to make him believe in the "handshake". It will all be revealed in the finale in May 2022. I don't even know why Kenyans bother with elections politics so early and we all know everything changes 3 months to elections.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:hardwood wrote:2022: Kikuyu elders tell DP Ruto to retire https://www.the-star.co....ruto-to-retire_c1778260
Quote:The Kikuyu Council of Elders wants Deputy President William Ruto to retire together with Uhuru Kenyatta when his term expires in 2022.
Yesterday, the council’s national secretary general Peter Munga told the Star that Ruto is part and parcel of the current presidency and should therefore prepare to exit with the Uhuru administration.
“As a Council we are very serious that he [Ruto] has to pack with Uhuru. If Uhuru has to leave in 2022, the deputy should follow suit.” Quote:Kikuyu Elders official Munga claimed that the DP's share in government has been shared solely among his Kalenjin community, while the President is forced to apportion his 'share' with the entire country. We all know that Kenya is a live soap opera. I would not be surprised if it's baba is being played all along by Uhuruto to make him believe in the "handshake". It will all be revealed in the finale in May 2022. I don't even know why Kenyans bother with elections politics so early and we all know everything changes 3 months to elections.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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