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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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Telkom Kenya is giving safaricom a serious challenge in the mobile data business aka 4G Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 895 Location: sky
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I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount Safcom has a huge grip on the data market and this behavior will continue as long as Saf has a strong position. I switched to Faiba4G using their modem but it is not for everyone. - 5,600 for the modem so I carry an extra device. - I have to keep it charged. Eventually the battery's life will be unacceptable. - I use it primarily in "old" Nairobi and CBD/Nyali Mombasa. Some say it doesn't work well in "larger" Nairobi or upcountry. - It may shut down if they don't pay their bills/fees. - Sometimes it is slower than normal. - I have a backup/alternate for the reasons stated above. The savings make up for the hassle. The monthly bundle of 25Gb costs 1,000/- which buys only 3Gb from Safcom (reliable) or 6Gb from Airtel (slow). If the others gain momentum then Saf might find it tough to claw back the market share. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount They are holding so much of my money in terms of bonga points so i'll not hesitate to use this opportunity "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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murchr wrote:littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount They are holding so much of my money in terms of bonga points so i'll not hesitate to use this opportunity Yap they are trying to reduce Bonga point liability / exposure in their books. They know they will still mumunya the data. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount They are holding so much of my money in terms of bonga points so i'll not hesitate to use this opportunity Yap they are trying to reduce Bonga point liability / exposure in their books. They know they will still mumunya the data. I don't think the issue is the liability since Safcom would rather sell you data for cash. The Bonga liabilities matter little to Saf since Safcom has the upper hand in valuing these Bonga Points. This offer is a smart way of keeping subscribers from vuka-ing to other providers. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 895 Location: sky
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VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount They are holding so much of my money in terms of bonga points so i'll not hesitate to use this opportunity Yap they are trying to reduce Bonga point liability / exposure in their books. They know they will still mumunya the data. I don't think the issue is the liability since Safcom would rather sell you data for cash. The Bonga liabilities matter little to Saf since Safcom has the upper hand in valuing these Bonga Points. This offer is a smart way of keeping subscribers from vuka-ing to other providers. I think most of those who have accumulated bundles won't bother the offer including me, 1gb which will just melt away is not worth those bonga point, better accumulate more and redeem a phone, I will continue with my 3gb for only ksh500 with Airtel and just use my saf line for calls and mpesa There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking!  Can I hotspot? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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littledove wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount They are holding so much of my money in terms of bonga points so i'll not hesitate to use this opportunity Yap they are trying to reduce Bonga point liability / exposure in their books. They know they will still mumunya the data. I don't think the issue is the liability since Safcom would rather sell you data for cash. The Bonga liabilities matter little to Saf since Safcom has the upper hand in valuing these Bonga Points. This offer is a smart way of keeping subscribers from vuka-ing to other providers. I think most of those who have accumulated bundles won't bother the offer including me, 1gb which will just melt away is not worth those bonga point, better accumulate more and redeem a phone, I will continue with my 3gb for only ksh500 with Airtel and just use my saf line for calls and mpesa Migrate the calls as well. SAFCON to SAFCON is Ksh. 4 per minute Airtel to ALL Networks is Ksh. 2 per minute ALL the time, FULLTIME. No subscribing, just calling. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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littledove wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:littledove wrote:I think they have a hearing problem, we want data to buy with cash, ie increase data or reduce the purchase amount They are holding so much of my money in terms of bonga points so i'll not hesitate to use this opportunity Yap they are trying to reduce Bonga point liability / exposure in their books. They know they will still mumunya the data. I don't think the issue is the liability since Safcom would rather sell you data for cash. The Bonga liabilities matter little to Saf since Safcom has the upper hand in valuing these Bonga Points. This offer is a smart way of keeping subscribers from vuka-ing to other providers. I think most of those who have accumulated bundles won't bother the offer including me, 1gb which will just melt away is not worth those bonga point, better accumulate more and redeem a phone, I will continue with my 3gb for only ksh500 with Airtel and just use my saf line for calls and mpesa I have only been using my saf line for calls, but unlike @vvs, I got myself a nokia 2 phone, which supports Faiba it was only 10k, it's 4000mah battery is superb for tethering all day, on mpesa I am trying out the Loop app, it has all the mpesa paybills, till numbers etc and a fixed cost of 38 bob to send any amount of cash, which is a life saver, eg sending 20k to my iTrader account on mpesa is 115 bob while it's 44 on loop, it's still mpesa but subsidized especially if you make loads of transactions daily. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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rwitre wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya Airtel it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services In other news, Magufuli denies Sylvia Mulinge work permit so I guess she will be back at Safcom "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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rwitre wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services I am OK with 50Gb for 5k for reliable countrywide service + unlimited calls and SMS. The data should be hot-spotabble. I pay 1,000/- for 25Gb from Faiba 4G. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:rwitre wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services I am OK with 50Gb for 5k for reliable countrywide service + unlimited calls and SMS. The data should be hot-spotabble. I pay 1,000/- for 25Gb from Faiba 4G.  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,055 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:rwitre wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services I am OK with 50Gb for 5k for reliable countrywide service + unlimited calls and SMS. The data should be hot-spotabble. I pay 1,000/- for 25Gb from Faiba 4G. Doesn't help me. I am usually out and about on most days. Mobile data is a much better value for me. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:rwitre wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services I am OK with 50Gb for 5k for reliable countrywide service + unlimited calls and SMS. The data should be hot-spotabble. I pay 1,000/- for 25Gb from Faiba 4G. Doesn't help me. I am usually out and about on most days. Mobile data is a much better value for me. Share price will continue being resilient to the bear run. But if it falls to 20 and below tunaongeza Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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rwitre wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:From the grapevine, there's a plan to introduce 5K prepaid line unlimited call txts and data Now we are talking! Can I hotspot? In Kenya it's usually "unlimited" until you hit like 50GB and you're told "your data bundle is over". Purchase another to continue enjoying the services Safaricom had unlimited internet a while back then Bob said that customers were "misusing" it so it was discontinued.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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