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Safaricom FY2018
muganda
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2018 9:37:12 PM
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Metch wrote:
Fastest growing is actually Safaricom. in 4th place the year before and in 2nd place today overtaking JTL and Mawingu. First place will be grabbed in a number of months. By this time next year we'll begin talking about dominance in this arena as well

What are you talking about @Metch? Just in Sep 2017, Mawingu was in 5th place while Safaricom was still in 2nd place then. Since then, Mawingu has added +16,622 subscriptions to Safaricom's +8,252.

VituVingiSana wrote:
Is it a for-profit venture?
What's the ARPU for Mawingu?
Folks like fast speeds...
Zuku is the loser after blowing their advantage. A new (TZ) owner is buying 51% and perhaps the new leadership will flight back.

@VVS appears to be commercial in nature with a digital inclusion agenda, perhaps at early funding stage. But heck, Equity Bank could have been described with similar terms at its inception.
http://www.mawingunetworks.com/faq.html
murchr
#22 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2018 10:31:53 PM
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muganda wrote:
Metch wrote:
Fastest growing is actually Safaricom. in 4th place the year before and in 2nd place today overtaking JTL and Mawingu. First place will be grabbed in a number of months. By this time next year we'll begin talking about dominance in this arena as well

What are you talking about @Metch? Just in Sep 2017, Mawingu was in 5th place while Safaricom was still in 2nd place then. Since then, Mawingu has added +16,622 subscriptions to Safaricom's +8,252.

VituVingiSana wrote:
Is it a for-profit venture?
What's the ARPU for Mawingu?
Folks like fast speeds...
Zuku is the loser after blowing their advantage. A new (TZ) owner is buying 51% and perhaps the new leadership will flight back.

@VVS appears to be commercial in nature with a digital inclusion agenda, perhaps at early funding stage. But heck, Equity Bank could have been described with similar terms at its inception.
http://www.mawingunetworks.com/faq.html





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Realtreaty
#23 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2018 11:26:36 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
It seems the NRM resistance to SafaricomPLC products had no impact on FY results



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Metch
#24 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:52:53 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
It seems the NRM resistance to SafaricomPLC products had no impact on FY results



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HaMaina
#25 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:15:53 AM
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gatoho wrote:
watesh wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
dividend of Ksh 1.10 for a stock trading at Ksh 29.00 thats like 3%, the rates were better when Safaricom paid 0.20Ksh while trading at 2.10Ksh.

Most good companies are in the 3% - 4% dividend yield currently.....





I bought at 2.80 so a happy camper



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mlennyma
#26 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:19:16 AM
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I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious
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Ericsson
#27 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 12:24:36 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious


The rally that was there from the beginning of the year factored the results.
The current P/E at 28.50 is about 20.
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Pesa Nane
#28 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:39:01 PM
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VyaBureSiachi
#29 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:52:23 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

The rally will come, just give it a week or two.
Most of the cash from dividend chasers and profit takers from the bank stocks will need to find a place to relax and safcom will be a top choice.
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#30 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 8:41:13 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?
obiero
#31 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 12:35:14 PM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

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mlennyma
#32 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 12:53:02 PM
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obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii
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jgithige
#33 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 1:10:02 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii


Honestly the super 55B profits are out of their exploitative charges. I use ZUKU at my work place over 20 comps with Hispeed cable internet wifi in the entire compound ZUKU TV and a zuku telephone which we dont use charges Ksh 6,000.

I doubt if Safaricom can match that price
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VituVingiSana
#34 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 1:12:46 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii
#TukoPamoja I like my Faiba 4G modem and 25Gbs for 1,000/-! Though the irony is I have to pay by M-Pesa!
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obiero
#35 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 1:41:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii
#TukoPamoja I like my Faiba 4G modem and 25Gbs for 1,000/-! Though the irony is I have to pay by M-Pesa!

Banks are heavily targeting the mobile settlements space via own paybills and soon your bank shall have direct bill settlement straight to the Faiba bank account hence bypassing mpesa altogether. Equitel is already on this, but Safaricom presence is simply too wide for any company to overhaul in a huff. Not even Telkom will challenge the market share percentages, but days of astronomical P&L growth are coming to a halt for Safaricom

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
mlennyma
#36 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 2:18:31 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii
#TukoPamoja I like my Faiba 4G modem and 25Gbs for 1,000/-! Though the irony is I have to pay by M-Pesa!

Banks are heavily targeting the mobile settlements space via own paybills and soon your bank shall have direct bill settlement straight to the Faiba bank account hence bypassing mpesa altogether. Equitel is already on this, but Safaricom presence is simply too wide for any company to overhaul in a huff. Not even Telkom will challenge the market share percentages, but days of astronomical P&L growth are coming to a halt for Safaricom

No company is too big to fall if they ignore the customers concerns
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
murchr
#37 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 3:07:38 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii



Ati only mpesa what? Laughing out loudly come on obiero. By the way the days safcom used to have mad rallies are gone. By this time next year the new normal will be about 40/-

Those mentioning Equitel and faiba need to look at the numbers posted by the communication authority.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#38 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 3:23:46 PM
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murchr wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii



Ati only mpesa what? Laughing out loudly come on obiero. By the way the days safcom used to have mad rallies are gone. By this time next year the new normal will be about 40/-

Those mentioning Equitel and faiba need to look at the numbers posted by the communication authority.

@murchr we are in 2022, not today's numbers. Safaricom has to fight off Telkom or else it wont end well. Mpesa is still big for Safaricom along with data which combined are more than voice revenue i.e 99.27B vs 95.6B. Voice is dead! And data is under heavy attack from multiple 'enemies'

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Rahatupu
#39 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 4:21:47 PM
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Me thinks Mpesa settlements and payment modes and visa/mastercard like convenience is the key here. Not mere payments to and from account to account. This area is where the game is and here Safaricom is way ahead of even Equitel. Look at their attempt at ecommerce payment via ebay, Amazon, playstore......
murchr
#40 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 4:34:20 PM
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obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I expected a mad rally but it seems investors are cautious

why do you expect a rally in a downtrend market , though ?

Very odd expectation from @mlennyma.. Only mpesa floats the Safaricom boat in terms of percentage increase y-on-y, and with recent happenings in the industry, if their voice and data lines are heavily attritioned, Safaricom may start to loose the spring in its step, albeit slowly

I think so too because I have already jumped out of their expensive data.iam paying only 1000 monthly for 23gb data which is enough for my needs at jamii



Ati only mpesa what? Laughing out loudly come on obiero. By the way the days safcom used to have mad rallies are gone. By this time next year the new normal will be about 40/-

Those mentioning Equitel and faiba need to look at the numbers posted by the communication authority.

@murchr we are in 2022, not today's numbers. Safaricom has to fight off Telkom or else it wont end well. Mpesa is still big for Safaricom along with data which combined are more than voice revenue i.e 99.27B vs 95.6B. Voice is dead! And data is under heavy attack from multiple 'enemies'



Laughing out loudly We had this conversation about Equitel Airtel etc. In 2022, data will not just be "come use us to browse" it will be " What can we do with the information we have about you" Listen to Sateesh's interview with AlyKhan.
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